Talk:World Series by Renault

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Im thinking of creating a templete/infobox for all racing drivers in the World Series of Renault:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_by_Renault

By the way whats the diffrence seems to be a little confussing here certain pages ie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sports_templates has many types of sports listed, however http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates#Sports has just cricket listed, am I missing something here?

Anyway the templete would be very similar to the F1 driver which looks like this:

Michael Schumacher
Schumacher before the 2005 United States Grand Prix.
Nationality	German
Car #	5
Current team	Ferrari
Formula One World Championship career
Races	242
Championships	7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Wins	87
Podium finishes	149
Pole positions	67
Fastest laps	72
First race	1991 Belgian Grand Prix
First win	1992 Belgian Grand Prix
Latest race	—
2006 position	2nd (69 pts)

Except for the fact that it would say something like World Series of Renault driver, I think the rest is relevant, any thoughts? Davidlightman 09:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Davidlightman

Response: This is now included in WP:MOTOR, for which standardised Championship and Driver infoboxes have been created. Please avoid adding any non-standard versions. The article will be reviewed and cleaned up in due course.

[edit] About Formula Renault V6 Eurocup

I have changed the text in the intro paragraph to remove the reference to the Formula Renault V6 Eurocup. This was an entirely separate series from Nissan Open Fortuna/World Series by Nissan in any of its guises. It ran for just two years, concurrent to the aforementioned Spanish-based series. The later statement that the Eurocup was "merged" into the World Series is questionable and contrary to what was reported at the time. The chassis and engines were sold to Asia, where the series was re-created, and nothing remained of the European original. Naturally, the World Series would use a Renault/Nissan engine, and the existing V6 spec was borrowed. That doesn't constitute a merger. [1] shows 2004 Eurocup champion Giorgio Mondini and [2] shows 2004 Nissan champion Heikki Kovalainen. Adrian M. H. 15:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you should have read, at least, an official site before relate to the article.

• Official site in English
  • Created as a result of the merger of the Eurocup Formula Renault V6 and the World Series by Nissan
• Official site in French
  • Née de la fusion de l’Eurocup Formula Renault V6 et de la World Series by Nissan, la World Series Formula Renault 3.5 est le championnat phare des meetings.
• Renault Japon in Japanese. In Japan, there is an important stockholder for Renault and a former organizer of the series, Nissan.
  • ワールドシリーズ・ｂｙ・ルノーは、F1世界選手権とF3選手権の間に位置するカテゴリーで昨年までのフォーミュラルノーV6ユーロカップとワールドシリーズ・ｂｙ・ニッサンが合併して2005年に発足致しました。

In a word, even if you see any country, the opinion of Renault is clear. I think we should esteem event organizer's official stance.

More over, I think the intention of Renault about the relation between FR V6 Eurocup and WSR is clear from fact that the event, World Series by Renault, has succeeded the name of the Eurocup (at "Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0" and "Eurocup Mégane Trophy") and Formula Renault (at "World Series Formula Renault 3.5" and "Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0") from the "Formula Renault V6 Eurocup". These were not added after the beginning of the event.

Therefore, I'm sorry, but I think it is difficult to agree with your edit. --Morio 15:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Could you rephrase your penultimate paragraph, please? It is not entirely clear and I do not wish to form an opinion of that, or a response to it, without clarification. Initially, I will say that this article appears to contradict how it was assessed in the specialist UK motorsport press at the time of the Eurocup's demise, which was initiated before the rebranding of the World Series. It was desribed as a closure, with the reason given being the preparation for Renault's commitment to GP2. Obviously, Renault was already involved in the World Series, because the European motorsport budgets of Nissan and Renault are necessarily interlinked. At that time, it was clear that the closing of the Eurocup was made on the basis of its lack of success versus its part in Renault's motorsport ladder. It was clearly redundant in the over-saturated European scene, in which Renault was at risk of competing with itself. Then came the rebranding of the World Series. At the time, it was not reported as a merger, but as two separate, but related events. No vestige of the Eurocup remained; its cars and engines were sold en masse to Asia, where they are still used. How does that constitute a merger? It does not; except, perhaps, in the retrospective vision of Renault's PR department. Certainly, the closure was viewed as a failure at the time, given that just two seasons had elapsed. If the concept of a merger can be verified independently (ie, not from Renault's website) then it is valid, though it still contradicts other (print) sources that were released at the time. Lastly, I don't like your inference; my prior online research revealed no independent sources that actually contradicted the view that was formed at the time. Adrian M. H. 15:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations and Sources

Someone has slapped a citation and sources notice on the page, that may mean people's edits are deleted. Being ther3e an seeing the driver win doesn't seem to be enough for wikipedia, they want published material, however this may breach copyright. Daft as this sounds. Does anyone have a thought on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.169.120 (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nissan vs Renault 3.5 series

This article include Nissan 2.0L series (Open Fortuna by Nissan, Euro Open MoviStar by Nissan, Open Telefónica by Nissan, Telefónica World Series and Superfund World Series) and Renault 3.5L series (Formula Renault V6 Eurocup, World Series by Renault and Formula Asia V6 by Renault). Nissan series and Formula Renault V6 Eurocup have merged to create World Series by Renault in 2005 but distinction between this two categories should be make and probably not in this World Series by Renault article but in Formula Renault with disctinction between 2.0L and 3.5L series. - Rollof1 12:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)