Talk:World Assembly of Muslim Youth

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WAMY was designated as one of the main Saudi charities involved in al-Qaida financing, by the United Nations in a report entitled "TERRORISM FINANCING Roots and trends of Saudi terrorism financing"
The Report was prepared for the President of the Security Council, United Nations
Dec. 19, 2002
by Jean-Charles Brisard (JCB Consulting)

The document is available online HERE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mojotexas (talk • contribs) as of 16:10, 2004 December 18

[edit] Section deleted without discussion

The section heading and three paragraphs in italics, that I have pasted in below, were excised from this article, here, and here. I wrote about half that passage. I don't think my prose is sacred, or anything special. But I do like to see an explanation when a whole sub-topic is removed.

I have attempted to initiate discussions with wikipedia contributors who hold various points of view, in their personal lives, about material they excise. Over on the Talk:Tablighi Jamaat, a year and a half ago, I made many attempts to provide coverage of the fact, referenced from verifiable and authoritative sources, that there are strong elements within the counter-terrorism establishments around the world who assert there is a connection between TJ and terrorism.

Initially my correspondents on Talk:Tablighi Jamaat wanted to wholesale excise, to suppress all coverage of these allegations, justifying the suppression based on their perception that the allegations were flimsy, far-fetched, contradicted the stated principle that the TJ movement was non-political. My response was that so long as the coverage of the allegations conformed with the wikipedia's core policies, like WP:NPOV, WP:NOR and WP:VER, it should stay. Suppressing coverage of material because, in the personal opinion of one, or several, wikipedia contributors, that the material is not credible, is a violation of WP:NPOV, when the material complies with the wikipedia's core policies.

I am going to wait a reasonable period of time, for the wikipedians who excised the material, or for someone who agrees with its excision, to offer an explanation why it should remain exicsed. And if I don't get one, I think it should be restored.

Cheers! Geo Swan 17:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American counter-terrorist analysts allege ties to al-Qaeda

The factors favoring the continued detention of Guantanamo detainee Mammar Ameur presented to his Administrative Review Board hearing included:^[1]

"The World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) is an NGO operating in Afghanistan and may be associated with Usama bin Laden and/or al-Qaida."

The factors favoring the continued detention of Guantanamo captive Adel Hassan Hamad included:^[2]

• "The detainee was employed by the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) in Afghanistan and Pakistan for approximately one and one half years until the time of his capture 18 July 2002."
• "WAMY supports terrorist ideals and causes."

Main article: Charities accused of ties to terrorism

The connections are, according to the official court record, the terrrorists that plotted the 1993 WTC bombing kept literature handed out by WAMY. Here are some samples: "The Jews are enemies of the faithful, God and the angels. Teach our children to love taking revenge on the Jews and the oppressors." Here are some examples of what specifically to teach the children: "In 1989 Abdul-Hadi Nemin carried-out his own heroic operation while on bus # 405 of Tel Aviv-Jerusalem line; he charged at the bus driver, chanting "Allah Akbar," twirled the steering wheel toward the cliff and caused the bus to take a big fall. As a result of his courageous act, 14 Israelis were killed and 27 were injured." It was previously run by the cousin (Omar bin Laden) and nephew (Abdullah bin Laden) of Osama bin Laden. (Greg Palast Armed Madhouse p.23-25)

I still don't have a good source that explicitly states that Omar bin Laden, Omar Awad bin Laden, and Omar Osama bin Laden are all the same person, though there are too many similarities in the descriptions for me to believe they're different. I really could use one! Wnt (talk) 18:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)