User talk:Woodwalker

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[edit] Image:Thrust system en.jpg

Could You please add (to the image Summary) what the image is about so people know in which articles to use it. Thanks feydey 15:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I posted it on klippe, the explanation is on there as well. I will put the explanation with the picture too. Woodwalker 15:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EUGEN

Are you going to EUGEN this summer? Luka Jačov 21:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Luka, always nice to meet a fellow geologist! I am not going to EUGEN, because I'm going to Norway to study gneisses... Woodwalker 21:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Gneisses, really? Cos I am preparing exam "Petrology of Igneous and Metamorphic rocks". You finished your studies or you still study? Luka Jačov 21:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm a grad student. In the future I'm interested in doing a PhD, but let's not look too far ahead. My specialism is structural geology and petrology. Woodwalker 21:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

One girl from Utrecht University is also going to EUGEN, Jody Mijts. Do you know her? Luka Jačov 21:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know her. Maybe she's a 1st or 2nd year student? Woodwalker 21:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Probably. What is duration of studying in Netherlands? Luka Jačov 21:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Normally 5 years. Most take a little longer Woodwalker 21:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

You dont have Bologna three years? Luka Jačov 21:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes 3 years BSc, then 2 years MSc. Together 5 years. I finished the first 3 years so I'm a graduated student. Woodwalker 22:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

But u got job after 3 years? Luka Jačov 22:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It's possible but difficult. Almost everyone finishes 5 years first. Woodwalker 07:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

What can u do with 3 years then? Luka Jačov 09:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

You could get a job in the mining or petroleum industry but not easily I think. They like the masters more. But then, who knows? In Britain most students don't finish their masters' degree and they do get jobs. It's probably that employers in my country are not used yet to Bachelor students seeking jobs. Woodwalker 09:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I ask you cause we adopted this system this year and they mentioned Netherlands as country that needs Bachelors. Luka Jačov 10:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Not in geology, as far as I see. But it is now possible to enter the 4th year at university when you have a Ba-degree. Woodwalker 10:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Be4 it wasnt possible? Luka Jačov 10:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, the idea behind Bologna is that a student can change his university when he gets his Ba. He can then do his Ma in any other European university. Before that was probably possible too, but very difficult. Nobody did it. Woodwalker 10:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia / Austria

Oops :-) My use of Aussie confused things. Rolinator is an Australian geologist not Austrian. Sorry 'bout the confusion with my slang jargon :-) Vsmith 12:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

NP. Any other Austrian geologists here? Woodwalker 13:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...whoops. No biggie. Rolinator 14:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MacGillavry of Mac Gillavry?

Volgens mij is de juiste spelling MacGillavry, zie: http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0567740868004693 JdH 18:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I know her brother and he confirms me that his name can be written in both ways. I have a publication in which it reads "Mac Gillavry", but "MacGillavry" is used too. Point is they were originally a Scottish family and the Dutch immigration officials knew not how to spell their name. You can always change it if you like, of course. Woodwalker 22:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Dankje trouwens voor het vermelden van de bron, was ik vergeten... Woodwalker 22:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tethys Ocean

Nice edit, good to see an expert clearing things up a bit. If you get a chance, could you add citations for what you added? Maybe it's common knowledge to experts, but for amatures like myself, I'd like to know where to look to read up a bit more. Thanks! Isogolem 05:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You are quite right, I should have mentioned some sources. The exact definitions of terrains and paleo-oceans in my edits are not very well-known even among geologists. Geology remains a sport with many vague terms, conventions and definitions. For my wikipedia-edits as well as for my work I had to look it up. I found some recent (after 1990) articles in which definitions were given to confusing names like "Proto-Tethys" and "Paleo-Tethys". Sadly, i cannot right now find the exact articles from which i took the definitions.
For the lower paleozoic names (proto-tethys etc) I remember using work by T.H. Torsvik, a leading expert. An article that decribes some of the terms is: Torsvik et all 1996: Continental break-up and collision in the Neoproterozoic and Paleozoic - a tale of Baltica and Laurentia, in Earth science reviews 40, p 288.
For the names of tectonic blocks in the Western Tethys there are more possible references. An article in which most of these terms are explained is Schmid et all 2004: Tectonic map and overall architecture of the Alpine Orogen, in Eclogae Geologica Helvetica vol. 97, p 93. Woodwalker 21:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mya / Ma

Ciao woodwalker, I stepper on your comment in mya. You are right, title should (must) be changed into Ma. Nobody uses mya, and if someone would ever look for that unit, he/she would look for Ma. Are you still active here? I'd like to make the change myself, but I just began contributing to Wikipedia. Maybe you have more experience handling these web-stuffs, so please go ahead and do the change!

Kaapitone 12:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I spend more time on the Dutch wikipedia these days, haven't done an edit here for some time. The official term is Ma yes, mya is maybe more common in the US (?). There are now many articles which use mya, when I tried to change it in one it was reverted by someone so I stopped doing that. The title of the article about the unit should at least be Ma. Woodwalker 09:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Please revisit and watch Talk:mya (unit) for merger discussion.LeadSongDog 21:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Woodwalker

Thanks for the support on the last block on Wiki-NL. I was just writing my first article, that I wanted to save and I found out I got blocked again. So nice to see the fascists trying to clean their doorways... I've edited the Geology of the Netherlands, maybe you want to add some data to it? Cheers and a good New Year! Torero 22:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Daarbij: ik heb juist gewacht tot ik weer op Wikipedia kon om mijn ongenoegen te uiten, juist zodat iedereen de gelegenheid heeft om erop te reageren. Dat men dat bij mij niet wil doen, is voor mij geen reden om hetzelfde laakbare gedrag te vertonen. Daarbij mogen de Waerths, de Troefkaarten, de Steinbachs en weet ik veel wie nog meer wel gewoon "beledigen" en worden daar niet voor gestraft. Ik vind dat ook best, maar als die personen vervolgens wel mij (of iemand anders) op grond van "belediging" wil uitsluiten, dan hebben ze gewoon een dikke laag boter op hun hoofd. Oscar stalkt mij eerst en probeert me dan een emailadres te ontfutselen, zogenaamd voor overleg. Als hij wil overleggen, dan doet hij dat recht waar ik bij ben, op mijn overlegpagina. Zo'n ding heet niet voor niets zo. Maar meneer stemt eerst voor een blokkade en smeekt dan om overleg? Ben malle pietje niet. Torero 22:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] map...

Hi, I've seen your geological map of the Alps. What is the original map you used ? Geojide 17:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not log in for a while. My main source for the map was:
  • Schmid, S.M.; Fügenshuh, B.; Kissling, E. & Schuster, R.; 2004: Tectonic map and overall architecture of the Alpine orogen in Eclogae Geologicae Helvetiae v 97, p 93
Woodwalker 14:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Growing Earth Theory

I thank you for the opinionated remark. However, as the article states and is referenced, there are several serious geologists and physicists who attribute scientific merit to the theory, enough for it to belong in the category of geophysics. Wikipedia content is meant to be unbiased and free of such opinionated conflict. We might be able to discuss a percentage possibility for the scientific viability of the theory but its place in a scientific category appears well in accordance with Wikipedia policy and the article has survived an articles for deletion process in its present state. MichaelNetzer 23:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ow that's OK, I have no interest in getting myself involved in any former conflict. What I read in the article is that it is presented as a scientific theory (which it is not really, as far as I see the scientific part was mainly in Expanding earth theory - why not merge the two?). You talk about "several serious scientists" that see something in the theory, but I never heard about the names mentioned in the refs (however, that doesn't say anything). Anyway there are NO well-established journals in the refs, which makes one wonder... I'm not saying it should really not be in the geophysics category, but think. That category does (yet) not contain many well-established geophysical theories (look -if you understand a little German- for example in the German "de:Kategorie:Geofysik", where our German colleagues have added some great articles that deserve their place here as well). Putting this half-scientific idea in that category, doesn't that make wikipedia a bit biased? Woodwalker 18:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expanding earth theory

Hi Woodwalker, thank you for your interest in expanding 'expanding', I was hoping someone would. I left a note on the talk page, but it is nice to meet someone else who wants to contribute the page. I keep meaning to make a good article out of it, but keep getting distracted. The dutch article you mentioned, "Uitzettende Aarde" seems very close to ours at en., you might let them know after you improve this one ;-) Your idea about a physicist's POV is a good one, there are also peer reviewed articles around for citation. I will try to get around to discussing the points you made at the talk page. Regards, ☻ Fred|☝ discussion|✍ contributions 02:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Fred! Do you understand Dutch? Actually I translated and improved the English version to the Dutch one, so that's y they are similar. The Dutch version has some added info on the history of EET, which I found in the German version (i read German). I added my stuff to the article (don't let that keep you from commenting on them), but the best arguments against EET come from physics. When we look at the Polish version (I don't understand Polish) we see some formulas with gravitation in it; maybe they already have the needed physicist POV there. Woodwalker 15:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Understand Dutch, no. I can roughly follow something in Dutch, or to a lesser extent German, with enough clues. I have been exposed too a little of both; I like that part of Europe. The history of EET would form the greater part of the article in my estimation. I must check the Japanese sites on EET and see if I can get translations, I have seen a lot of reference to Japanese research in the eighties. Carey's books involve me getting time at the local university, he has had a number of supporters there. I will also check the other wikis, such as the polish one. Best regards Woodwalker. ☻ Fred|☝ discussion|✍ contributions 10:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mijn 2 centjes

Hallo Woudloper, ik post dit hier, omdat het dan wat meer besloten is dan op de nl afdeling. Niet iedereen hoeft dat te (kunnen ) lezen. Ik wil daar voorlopig ook niets meer doen. laat de goede mensen maar vertrekken - dat zal wel de enige manier zijn om de moderatoren die zo mooi kunnen kletsen over gemeenschapsproject te leren hoe je dat wel moet onderhouden.

Ik schrik een beetje van de tekst op je GP, zo ken ik je niet. Daarom de volgende hints and tips.

  • De mods bij de nl-wiki zijn verstrikt geraakt in een bedrijfscultuur en wat ik maar juristje spelen zal noemen. Het gevaar daarvan is dat als je je daarbij aansluit om de boel te verbeteren jij na een tijdje die cultuur geabsorbeerd hebt en net zo erg bent geworden als de rest. Dat kun je niet willen. Pim Fortuyn zei al dat als hij vier jaar in de regering had gezeten hij een insider zou zijn geworden en dat een ander dan de fakkel van hem zou moeten overnemen. Zo werkt dat inderdaad, of je nu een aanhanger van hem bent of niet, die observatie is volkomen juist. Denk niet dat je je kunt onttrekken aan dat mechanisme.
  • Door je tegenstander met zijn eigen wapens te bestrijden - het allemaal juridisch te gaan uitzoeken - legitimeer je die meteen. In dit geval is dat een heilloze weg. De juridische benadering krijgt pas zin als het vertrouwen verdwenen is. Het is bovendien totaal irrelevant of de arbcom binnen zijn of haar mandaat heeft gehandeld. Je verknoeit je tijd met uitzoeken of ze daarop aanspreekbaar zijn. De grote fout van de arbcom is dat een orgaan dat ervoor had moeten zorgen dat iedereen met plezier bijdraagt voor grote onrust en verdeeldheid heeft gezorgd en dat het de leden aan het elementaire inzicht ontbreekt dat je vrijwilligers niet zo arrogant en schofterig kunt bejegenen als (goed) betaalde krachten. Je zult het als je later een goedbetaalde baan hebt nog wel meemaken dat je waardeloos geïnformeerd wordt over een belangrijke reorganisatie en dat je chef je in je gezicht zegt dat hij je bepaalde dingen niet hoeft te vertellen, ook al gaat het daarbij om dingen die voor jou belangrijk zijn. Maar dan krijg je er tenminste een bak met geld voor. Vrijwilligers zo behandelen getuigt van een botheid zo groot dat Torero op zijn slechtste momenten er gunstig bij afsteekt.
  • In Nederland hoef je je niet zoveel zorgen te maken over de informatievoorziening. Ik bof nog extra omdat waar ik woon de waarschijnlijk best gesorteerde openbare bieb van het hele land staat. Een paar jaar terug zag ik die van Deventer van binnen en het contrast was schokkend - boekenkasten uit naar schatting de jaren zestig en de boeken waren waarschijnlijk even oud. Toch kun je in dit landje vrijwel overal wel de nodige encyclopedische kennis opdoen. En wie echt alles wil weten over plaattektoniek is met een goed boek waarschijnlijk toch beter af dan met een artikel op internet. Wel kun je op de nl versie informatie zetten waarover in het Nederlands niet veel te vinden is. Ik vraag me af of pokémonfiguren en personages uit Harry Potter daaronder vallen. Ik vermoed dat je het belang van de Nederlandse wiki overschat. Met de Engelse en Spaanse worden natuurlijk heel veel mensen bereikt in gebieden waar wel internet maar nauwelijks een boek te krijgen is.
  • Ik probeer mijn activiteit hier vooral te zien als een gelegenheid om me te oefenen in schrijven en vertalen. Af en toe steek ik er nog wat van op ook.

Hou je haaks, Floris V 12:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oppassen, Woudloper. ;-) Ik zie dat het op de Nl wiki niet echt lekker gaat, om het zacht uit te drukken. Floris V 19:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alps

Thanks for writing & translating the article on the geology of the Alps. It's great stuff :)

[edit] Mijn blokkering op WP NL

Zeg, Woudloper. Je hebt me geblokkeerd om dat ik een sokpop was van Geleyns. dit is niet helemaal correct: Ik had indertijd de account Mythologica, maar ik vergat het paswoord omwille van het feit dat ik een tijdje inactief was op WP NL. Nu ben ik terug als Geleyns. Ik hoop dat u me zo snel mogelijk ontblokt! Alvast bedankt, Geleyns 84.195.185.90 11:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't lie to me. Woodwalker 09:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expanding earth

Hi woodwalker, we've had a nice discussion on the article expanding earth theory. In the last two days I've expanded the article substantially, what do you think? --D.H (talk) 12:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. I read it through and think you did a great job again. I think the most important is that the article shows clearly that the scientific debate is a thing from the past and that the theory is no longer seen as credible today. Woodwalker (talk) 19:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks again

Dear Woodwalker, I herewith like to really thank you again for supporting me in the astounding a days long block up from Oscar, whose arbitrary and controversial knocking completely surprised me awe into silent awareness. So, I have to reconsider my decision to write again, in spite of rehabilitation by the forum, the gracious action of Ellywa included. Astonishing ..., but as usual with all regards from D.A. Borgdorff, e.i. etc. by fixed-ADSL-IP: 86.83.155.44 (talk) 19:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC) PS: Just before his blocking at 14:46 out of nowhere came a socalled Anon-IP: 129.125.157.73 at 14:36 reverting (with comment) my edits in own TP, upon which Oscar 10 minutes later responded, curiously - see history of those pages. Above-mentioned IP is from R-University Groningen, and only used to tackle me, I suppose. I don't like this to sort further out. With excuses for my CE/AE-spelling errors, truly Yours: D.A. Borgdorff, by 86.83.155.44 (talk) 23:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Estimable Sir; I'm sorry to disturb you again, but yet an other block up now from mrs. Moira came unexpectedly after my complaints being thrown on a sort of blacklist by abovementioned CEO. I've tried to reach the - by mr. De Roo recommended - IRC-channel, but my typed reaction unfortunately didn't came through and I was even banned there after accusation of lurking while trying to contact for explanation again and again and onwards. So I'll have to report it here again with - in the mean time - utmost amazement, wondering about the level of arguments affected in numbers. With best regards I again remain sincerely yours: D.A. Borgdorff from number IP: 86.83.155.44 (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear mr. Borgdorff, I already discussed your last block on wiki.nl with ms. Moira. I am afraid she was rather uncompromisable in the matter, due to the large amount of what she and others call "useless edits" from your side. Fact is that anonimous edits have to be checked on wikipedia, and that's not very entertaining work I can assure. So I would like to suggest that you stop editing talk pages and start editing articles; or just open an account so that your edits don't bother the team that checks anonimous edits any longer.
When somebody does not show his or her name at the chat that is considered "lurking" and unpolite, because others are having confidential talk there and do show their names. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that you were "booted" from the chat.
I hope you will at least think about opening a real account because it will make life easier for everyone! Kind regards and yours sinc., Woodwalker (talk) 11:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)