Talk:Wong and McKeen/Archive
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AUTHOR'S NOTE: I have been learning as I go. I will include the comments from the Wikipedia editor administrator to keep the process clear:
[edit] Removal of Page - Bennet Wong
Greetings. You recently removed the page "Bennet Wong" ... the reason was that the page was being done "for promotion" .... Bennet Wong is now retired ... so, he is not promoting himself. The problem probably was because the page was originally created by his associate Jock McKeen (a new editor in Wikipedia who did not realize that he should not create a page for himself or his friend). I entered the picture after Jock McKeen had created the pages for Bennet Wong and Jock McKeen. I have been editing these two pages for the past two days ... and they have both disappeared this morning. Please put the pages for "Bennet Wong" and "Jock McKeen" back online so I can continue to edit them. Much appreciated ... thanks.
William Meyer 16:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of Page - Wong and McKeen
Hello again. I just checked to see if the page "Wong and McKeen" that I created and have been editing has been removed, since the "Bennet Wong" and "Jock McKeen" pages had been recently deleted. Indeed, you did remove this page too. I respectfully request that you restore this page. I imagine this removal was prompted by the removal of the pages for "Bennet Wong" and "Jock McKeen" noted in the note just above this one. Please tell me what I should do to follow the Wikipedia standards properly so that my work will not be removed again. Many thanks. Respectfully ...
William Meyer 16:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
"I have restored Bennet Wong, Wong and McKeen, and Jock McKeen. Some relevant policies are Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, Wikipedia:Autobiography, and Wikipedia:Spam. If they do not develop as neutral articles about notable people they will probably be deleted again. Tom Harrison Talk 17:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Restoration of Pages - Wong and McKeen, Jock McKeen and Bennet Wong
Thank you for your quick response to my request. I appreciate your guidance in suggesting the policy pages. I have read these, and I will study them further. I do want to develop these three pages as neutral articles about notable people, as you suggested. Is there anything on any of these three pages (either structure or content) that keeps these pages flagged for removal? I will respectfully alter or delete anything necessary to keep this project alive. My intention is to establish these three pages, and then produce a page for "The Haven Institute" which was founded by Bennet Wong and Jock McKeen (similar to the Wikipedia page for "Esalen Institute"). The Haven Institute is owned an operated by a nonprofit society (The Haven Foundation) and both Wong nor McKeen are at arms' length from both the Institute and the Foundation. Do you see any problem with ultimately creating this page? The intention is not to promote, but rather to inform about a cultural phenomenon. The similarity to Esalen seems clear to me. I'm sorry this is so long ... but I do want to "play ball" with you, and to do this properly the first time. Please advise. Thanks. William Meyer 21:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Basically, rely primarily on independent, reliable sources: newspapers, books, etc. If there are no independent reliable sources, it will not be possible. Tom Harrison Talk 22:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Restoration of Pages - Wong and McKeen, Jock McKeen and Bennet Wong
Thanks for your reply above. Is there anything that is currently on any of the three pages in question that you want to remove? Thanks William Meyer 22:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- They need to be sourced to reliable, independent third-parties. See Wikipedia:Attribution. Tom Harrison Talk 15:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I am now learning to cite the references properly as I develop this article William Meyer 17:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sourcing to Reliable, independent third-parties
I have begun a Reference section, with the first entry being the biography of Wong and McKeen written by Gerry Fewster, who was the Editor of the Journal of Child and Youth Care. I plan to clean up the Bibliography next, adding the ISBN numbers for the Wong/McKeen books to make them clear references. William Meyer 05:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sourcing to Reliable, independent third-parties
I have completed the basic text and the references now. I believe this satisfies the Wikipedia standards for "reliable independent third parties." William Meyer 16:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
