Talk:Wolfe+585, Senior
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. | ||
| Stub | This article has been rated as stub-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] | ||
 |
This article was nominated for deletion on 5 Nov 2006. The result of the discussion was merge and redirect to List of unusual personal names. |
This guy's name breaks the page! Salad Days 04:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Contents |
[edit] I protest!
I created the page, and though I recognize that the last name does "break the page," I contend that "Wolfe+585, Senior" is the correct title for the page and I would like permission to remove the tag.--Desmond Hobson 16:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hoax?
I don't quite believe this article. I am willing to believe that some editions of the Guinness Book listed this guy, but as he was delisted from there, it seems they are not confident about his, either. Is there any reason to believe that he is not a fictitious entry in the Guinness book? His name was definitely not given to him in Germany (probably violates German naming laws), did American immigration officers grant ridiculous names like these at some point in time? An old AFD discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adolph Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenberdorf, where this article was deleted. Kusma (討論) 15:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Translation
I recognise several basic words in here, but not the whole thing; then again, I'm not fluent in German. If this actually isn't a hoax (which I'm kinda thinking it probably is... this would so violate German naming laws), then wouldn't it be an appropriate inclusion?
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaftschaferswessenschafewarenwohlgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschutzenvonangreifendurchihrraubgierigfeindewelchevoralternzwolftausendjahresvorandieerscheinenwanderersteerdemenschderraumschiffgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefahrthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchenachdiesternwelchegehabtbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneurassevonverstandigmenschlichkeitkonntefortplanzenundsicherfreuenanlebenslanglichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvonandererintelligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum Wolf-schlegel-stone-house-bergerdorffvor-age-warenge-know-haftschaferswessenschafewarenwohlgepflege-and-sorgfaltigkeitbeschutzenvonangreifen-through-ihrraubgierigfeindewelchevor-age-twelve-thousand-years-vorandieerscheinenwanderersteerdemenschderr-space-schiff-needed-light-old-seinursprungvon-power-gestart-be-long-drive-in-zwischen-star-sort-igraum-off-the-search-toward-the-star-welchegehabtbewohnbar-planet-kreisedrehensich-and-wohinderneurassevonverstandig-manly-able-gone-planzen-and-pleasing-longliving-happy-and-ruhemit-not-in-furchtvorangreifenvon-other-intelligent-geschopfsvonhinzwischen-star-sort-igraum
Basically, I don't think that's realistically believable. Opinions? kaiti-sicle 06:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed
I just added 'disputed' for I’m German and after having read the article I was bursting out laughing. The 'name’ given here is actually a story of a heroic man that faced a space ship (German: ‘Raumschiff’), and of aliens seeking a habitable planet (here: ‘bewohnbar planeten’). Well, I could be mislead for most of the grammar is wrong, especially when it comes to the use of cases and articles. I say it’s a huge yet funny hoax and one should really think about deleting this article. To prove the given statements and for your amusement I’ll try to translate this nonsense:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff (this part could be a true after all) was by old a very reliable shepherd, whose sheep were well taken care of and well protected from assaults by their rapacious enemies (Now it gets almost incomprehensible), (The enemies) who appeared to the wanderer (traveler) 12000 years ago… The spaceship is source of power and was on a long journey in the ‘between-star-room’ (space, German 'Weltraum', here 'zwischensternartigraum'), seeking a star which was habitable and where intelligent life was present and could reproduce itself joyfully, lifelong joy and peace, with not one source of fright from attacks from other intelligent creatures from the ‘between-star-room’ (space). Ultem --149.225.36.146 02:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Additionally, it is corrupted and awkward German. I believe it's just a fictitious entry... --Evilboy 19:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
- For all we know, it is likely that the phrase in the name was chosen on purpose. I don't see any evidence what-so-ever that it is a fictitious entry.
ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE 21:41, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Why can't a person's name tell a story? A lot of cultures have names that encode geneology, profession, or other characteristics about the person or his ancestors. If this is listed Guiness then we can say it's listed in Guiness, if anyone can find a reference debunking it then we can also say it's been debunked. Fairly straightforward verifiability-proofing. It would also be interesting to include the "translation" in the article, too. Bryan Derksen 03:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Seems fake to me....:Stirb Nicht Vor Mir:. 12:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- The idea of a name telling a story is as fake-seeming as that of a name with more than 500 characters. If it's backed up by sources, there's not much we can do about it! Zouavman Le Zouave 18:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
"Raumschiff" is as much medieval German as "spaceship" is medieval english. This is a total hoax. Pekka.gaiser (talk) 09:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I removed the merge tag to List of unusual personal names, despite the AfD, since that list is all summary entries; including the full name on that page and any of the info (such as references) would break the list. If we keep the article, we ought to just keep it. -- phoebe/(talk) 03:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep it here! --172.212.181.50 (talk) 09:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] It should stay
Even if the name's factuality is debatable, it is still notable for being an absurdly long name that was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records. Not being true doesn't make something unnotable—see geocentric model. Its notability is from being accepted for some time, not that it is true. The same principle can apply here. —Dmbrown00 16:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to "verify" this to make it indisputable, but my father, who grew up in Philly, has been telling the story of this guy (must be the son of the person here) with this name for years. I'm going to see if he has anything with the name on it. He always said the guy went by "Wolfe." I've been able to say the short form "Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff" since I was in the 5th grade. According to my father, "Wolfe" said that "Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff" was shortened. -kurgen99
[edit] Date of death?
The article says:
- His full name was
The use of the past tense suggests he is no longer living. A date of birth is given, but no date of death. Could this be added? Michael Hardy (talk) 00:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
