Talk:Winnipeg General Strike

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The article seems to be completely messed up. Why does the majority of the article discuss strike actions in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada when the article is about the strike that occurred in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada? It makes no sense! This would be like have the majority of the article about the Hurricane Katrina Disaster in New Orleans explaining the 1907 Earthquake in San Francisco. --Jason Savage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.188.168.12 (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Something useful to say? --Alexwcovington 06:25, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Whatcha talking about?--Lucky13pjn 15:32, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

I dunno. I learned a bit about the strike in a Canadian history class I took at the University of North Dakota. It's a decent article overall, but I think there could be more depth. --Alexwcovington 18:44, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Then by all means, write away. You probably know more about the strike than I do, which is sad considering I am Canadian. ;)--Lucky13pjn 23:08, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

The small section about the One Big Union in this artical is a bit misleading as the One Big Union was not organized until after the general strike was over. Therefore, historians generally agree that the One Big Union did not influence the general strike. 12:49, March 13, 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Numbers for deaths & injuries on Bloody Saturday

I have looked at a couple of sources, including Canadian History for Dummies and the Canadian Museum of Civilization website and I can not find a reference that 94 were injured. Where did this number come from? I will update the stats to reflect what I have been able to find. -- JamesTeterenko 04:20, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wasn't there a Winnipeg Manifesto?

Or "something"; I remember one of our diehard NDPer schoolteachers talking about strike, and that there was a manifesto or constitution or something, published in several languages, implying the potential creation of a worker's republic. I know this must have been a fringe element only, judging by the article overleaf, but I'm curious as to which languages and what was in it. On the other hand, there's lots of bowdlerized/toned-down Canadian history all over Wiki...or was this teacher just raving in technicolour?Skookum1 16:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

An organization called the "Winnipeg Soviet" was proclaimed (a Soviet is a council of workers), but Google has only a few oblique references to the term. I don't believe it was actually proclaimed as a republic, but the potential was there. I'll add some information to the article when I get good refs, but your teacher was not raving in technicolour. Eleland 20:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] accident?

"a young boy was accidentally killed early in the strike". what kind of accident? Jackzhp 00:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)kNEVER THOUGHT IT WAS A BOY... thought it was a blacksmith... i dunno though...

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move to Winnipeg General Strike. As for the "1919" part, it doesn't seem mandatory per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (events) and Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(numbers_and_dates)#Articles_on_events—actually, it seems to be discouraged if there's a common name. Duja 11:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


1919 Winnipeg general strikeWinnipeg General Strike — This event is always uppercased in credible publications, which treat it as a proper noun the same way other significant conflicts, such as the Cold War are treated as proper nouns. —bobanny 07:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Support. I have always seen it with caps. I also note that the Canadian Press Stylebook (ISBN 0-920009-32-8) requires that it be capitalized (page 212). BTW, the title does not require "1919", but at the very least the title should not commence with 1919! Skeezix1000 14:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support. The usual way the strike is referred to in my experience is the Winnipeg General Strike. (I'm originally from Winnipeg, in case that counts in the discussion.) Wanderer57 17:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support It's an important Canadian event, like the Great Flag Debate. We seem to like our important events capitalized, and the Win Gen Strike was important. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support I originally used the "1919" phrasing on the basis that General strike#Notable general strikes listed strikes that way; the proposed move is in line with WP naming policy. The sources do seem to weigh heavily in favour of Capitalizing Every Word, so we should do it that way. <eleland/talkedits> 17:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support. The capitalization seems the common practice and the 1919 at the start is not necessary given that there has only been one strike. It is also extremely odd-looking. --Slp1 00:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

There seems to be a consensus on capitalizing the title. I agree with Skeezix1000 however that "1919" is unecessary, so I'm leaving this request up because only an administrator can move it to Winnipeg General Strike. I'm guessing it's the result of someone wanting all general strike articles standardized, but methinks that's not a good enough reason for mucking with a well established name. bobanny 18:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
The title should reflect the most commonly used name for the topic, and "Winnipeg General Strike" is the term used for the event. The dab is completely unnecessary. And, frankly, the title struck me as odd because no one refers to it as the "1919 Winnipeg General Strike". Skeezix1000 17:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.