Talk:Wink (game)

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[edit] Form

Bad form to put up a local reference to something you're involved in on a Wikipedia article -- unless it's actually an established, general-knowledge item that Wink is *particularly* associated with Swarthmore College and one of its organizations (such that that knowledge would be relevant to someone who'd never personally been to Swarthmore College) that info shouldn't be included in a general-knowledge reference article.

Thanks for your input. In the future feel free to help out by fixing mistakes you find. --Ahc 16:54, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Reference to Swarthmore removed Jebler 05:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging with Ratchet Screwdriver

Since as best I can tell from a quick review of the two articles, this is the same game, and Wink is the most name most commonly used (or something closer to Wink them Ratchet Screwdriver anyway). I'm suggesting the two articles be merged together here. --Ahc 04:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd support merging them, but I'm not sure which name to put it under (although the one not chosen should exist to redirect to the other); I've found in Britain 'Ratchet Screwdriver' is used exclusively, and I get the impression 'Wink' is used exclusively in the US. Drum guy 19:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Ahc that Ratchet Screwdriver be merged into the Wink_(game) article, because Ratchet Screwdriver is only used as far as I can tell in England. Ware as Wink is used in the United States of America and also in Canada ware I am.--Devin Murphy 10:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Support merger of the articles. Aleta 05:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment - the reason I support merger is that it sounds like it is the same game with two different names. Discussing any variations within one article seems more reasonable than having two articles on essentially the same thing. I don't have enough of a sense of the worldwide predominance of the names to have a strong opinion on which name should be used for the merged article, but whichever title is not chosen should redirect to the merged article. Aleta 03:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and completed the merge. The text is basically the text from the Wink article, I removed the text about active discouragement, which I'll include here. I personally didn't think it was important information to include, but if others disagree, please feel free to replace it:

At events such as Britain Yearly Meeting and Summer Gathering, Ratchet Screwdriver is actively discouraged. In line with not deciding what other people can and can't do, it isn't 'banned', although the effects of active discouragement are very similar. The reasons for discouraging the game are explained in the Discussion Room of The under 19's section of Quaker.org.uk. They, briefly, are that the game:

  • Contains physical contact that some could find uncomfortable
  • Is potentially violent, possibly resulting in minor injuries or broken property.
  • Is exclusive to:
    • younger people
    • people who do not know about the game
    • people who haven't played when others have recently.

Despite this, Ratchet Screwdriver is still played at many events, under various guises, including 'Scratchet Rewdriver', 'Bob' and 'The Friendly Quaker'.

--Ahc 22:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this should be included, but maybe in a section called “Community Attitudes On Wink” of something to that effect. And as well as mentioning British Quaker attitudes to Wink it could also address some of the other various communities to which Wink is played in and their attitudes to the game. --Devin Murphy 06:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

The external links section was deleted and I think it should be reinstated. ‘Cause the links which were in it I think added to the understandings of haw Wink is paled and handled in some of the various communities to which it is playd in. And the links are as follows:

--Devin Murphy 11:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I also definitely think they should be put back - I think they add to the reliability of the article, and are relevant. Drum guy 19:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

This game is discouraged by many Friends. An agenda is being persued here. Comstock 18:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I can tell and it’s inappropriate. And on that not I re-added back the relevant stuff that was deleted.--Devin Murphy 21:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to pull only the last of those. The PYM site is often used as a citation elsewhere (I've seen it used on both Quaker and non-Quaker sites, although more often by Friends), and the other 2 seem fine to me since they are directly related. The last one, provides a link to a generic Quaker page and therefore provides inappropriate bias. --Ahc 17:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rules

I understand that the rules will vary by location and group, but

  • Do people actually shout "over!" (etc) after the kiss? I have not ever played this way because there was no need, everyone knew when the round was over.

Jebler 05:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Particularly when played with large groups it helps reduce the number of injuries from people continuing to play after the round is over. --Ahc 15:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Early origins of Wink

I've posted some thoughts on this game and how it got started in Quaker circles at my blog.

Certainly I'm open to the possibility that it started and developed differently, and I'm not going to change the Wikipedia entry without better information.

What is the source of the part saying that it was played by Friends in the 1800s? That part seems to me to be folklore, inferring from the nature of the milder game that some people may have heard of.

--kirk 18:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)