Talk:Wing Gambit

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Sicilian Wing Gambit: Like the aritcle suggests, it's not the most logical responce to C5 and so it has largely fallen out of use. Therein lies some of its attraction, however. If you become familiar with it, your knowledge of an odd opening line might prove an advantage, especially over players who rely on a deep understanding of conventional openings - and especially when short time limits are being used.

Also, there's an alternative to A3 for white. The alternative is less logical again, but if the strategy is about avoiding known lines this one can work. Try to play C4. If black takes en passent, take back with the knight. If he doesn't...you'll have some interesting opportunities later to get a sustainable 3 pawn centre. From a psycological perspective this can be helpful. Black playing the Sicilian certainly had it in mind to prevent a 2 pawn centre for white. Then white gets 3.

On the other hand, I've had terrible games with C4. I think I'd abandon the wing gambit if I wasn't a bit in love with it. It's got a cool name, it's usually unexpected, and although risky it can sometimes yield dramatic and aggressive form for white.

I'd be interested to know what other players think of the line. Who playes it? What do you think are the main issues? I only have a superficial understanding of it.

I think I learnt about the above variation from computer software Chess Master.

[edit] Variations

1.e4 c5 2.b4 Wing Gambit, Sicilian
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6/d6/a6 3.b4 Wing Gambit Deferred, Sicilian
1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4 Wing Gambit, French
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4 Wing Gambit, French
1.e4 c6 2.Ne2 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4 Wing Gambit, Caro-Kann
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.b4 Wing Gambit, Open Game
1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Bc5 3.b4 Wing Gambit, Bishop's Opening
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Bc5 4.b4 Wing Gambit, Ruy Lopez
1.a4 b5 Wing Gambit, Ware Opening
1.c4 c5 2.b4 Wing variation, English Symmetrical
1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 g6 4.c4 b5 Wing Gambit, Center Counter
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Evans Gambit - Not actually called a Wing Gambit but this is what it is.

ChessCreator (talk) 23:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The arcticle says that a Wing Gambit is "An opening in which one side gambits his b-pawn against his opponnents c-pawn", or something like that. Therefore, the Evans Gambit is not a Wing Gambit.Chesslover96 (talk) 01:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The description is incorrect.