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This is a good start - I'll start setting it into the links around the Windy City name and Chicago nickname articles. Robovski 23:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] DNC & RNC National Conventions

It might also be interesting to point out that Chicago, Illinois has also been host to the largest number of Democratic National Conventions (11), and the largest number of Republican National Conventions (14). Though I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the, "Windy City," nickname, it does connect to politics. Dr. Cash 21:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

"Yes. Thank you. That is interesting to note."

[edit] Cincinnati "Windy City" Origins

My name is Barry Popik. I de-bunked the 1893 "World's Fair" myth many years ago. "Windy City" comes from Cincinnati, with the earliest citation of May 1876 (Cincinnati Enquirer) mentioned in the "Straight Dope" link.

... You can find my "Windy City" work in the American Dialect Society discussion listserv archives, www.americandialect.org, and by searching for "Cincinnati Enquirer."

... The earliest "Windy City" citations in the ProQuest database, as follow below, all come from Cincinnati. Cincinnati was a rival city of Chicago at that time. The term was double-edged. It had meant wind. (The Chicago Tribune had long advertised Chicago as a "summer resort" based on its cool summer breezes. Again, check "resort" in ADS-L archives.) However, to someone from Cincinnati, it clearly meant that people from Chicago were full of wind. The earliest ProQuest cites:


... ... AT BLUE ISLAND.; THE CHAMPIONSHIP. NOTES OF THE GAME. Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Jul 2, 1876. p. 3 (1 page)

... The Cincinnati _Enquirer_, in common with many other papers, has been waiting with great anxiety for the fulfillment of its prophecy: that the Chicago papers would call the Whites hard names when they lost. Witness these scraps the day after the Whites lost to the Athletics:

... There comes a wail to us from the Windy City.

... ... THE CREAM OF THE BUCKET.; CULCHAH. A SWEETLY SOLEMN THOUGHT. NARROW PARTISAN PREJUDICE. A CAUSE OF COMPLAINT. POLITICAL CONSIDERATION. RESIGNATION. THE CHAMPION. AN EXPOSITION ITEM. DOES SHE REALLY? REWEY REDIVIVUS. EVENING. Puck (1877-1918). New York: Jun 19, 1878. Vol. 3, Iss. 67; p. 13 (2 pages)

... First page: Such an usage would be wholly impracticable in the windy city. Cover up a whole block with a Chicago man's ear? --_Cinc. Sat. Night._

... ... LOUIE'S LOVE.; A Strange Attempt to Elope With a School Girl--A Villainous Scheme to Rob an Old Man of His Daughter. The National Police Gazette (1845-1906). New York: Jul 17, 1880. Vol. Vol. XXXVI., Iss. No. 147.; p. 7 (1 page) (Re-printed from the Cincinnati Enquirer. See American Dialect Society listserv archives--ed.)

... ... IN OTHER SPECTACLES.; THE TEMPLAR PAGEANT AS SEEN BY OUTSIDERS. THE CHICAGO IDEA. ALLEGED ARCHES HOW THEY GOT THE MONEY. Cincinnati Commercial. THE LARGE HOTELS WERE WORSE MAGNIFICENT BADGE SET WITH DIAMONDS Chicago Daily Tribune (1872-1963). Chicago, Ill.: Aug 23, 1880. p. 7 (1 page)

... They had just arrived from the windy city of the lake. (From Cincinnati Commercial--ed.)

... ... OUR NATIONAL GAME.; Glance Over the Diamond Fields of the Continent. The National Police Gazette (1845-1906). New York: Oct 20, 1883. Vol. VOLUME XLIII., Iss. No. 317.; p. 11 (1 page)

... It was here that the late lamented Hulbert, president of the Chicagos, saw him and signed him for the Windy City club, where he has been playing ever since.--_Cincinnati Enquirer._


05-07-06...Barry Popik again. Add "Hawk": http://www.barrypopik.com/article/591/the-hawk

No one has updated this "Windy City" article? I'll try to get to it soon. Barry Popik 01:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I edited this article on June 30. I added the 1876 citations (the Chicago Tribune's Nathan Bierma verified it with Cincinnati). Where is everything?Barry Popik 03:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Funny . . . I've never heard anyone in Chicago use the term "the hawk" for cold winter winds. I have, however, heard New Yorkers use it -- for example, in Run-DMC's "Christmas in Hollis." Maybe this is a more generally African-American usage and less a specifically Chicago usage? --Mr. A. 17:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] That newspaper picture

Is stupid as hell.

And what a very useful and cogent contribution you have made to the improvement of this article. Thank-you ever so much for your very profound insight. Do you have anything actually useful to contribute or are you just here to waste your time and ours? Robovski 01:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World's Columbian Exposition

In 1893, Chicago won the bid to host the World's Fair, also known as the World's Columbian Exposition.

As the Exposition was held in 1893, this must have been at an earlier point of time. -- Firefox13 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Correct. The fair was awarded to Chicago by Congress in 1890. I'm editing the page to reflect this. Icebox93 06:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copy-edit

Copy-edited today, as requested. Tag now removed. thisisace 21:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weather

Removed incorrect language alleging that Chicago adopted a street grid after the fire, because Chicago was a grid before the fire, and no street reroutes happened after the fire. Maps from 1869 and 1873 show the streets in the same places. Icebox93 07:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)