Talk:Windows shell replacement
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[edit] Shell replacements vs. GUI enhancements
I have removed references to HoverDesk and Desktop X because they are not shell replacements. Shell replacements replace explorer.exe as the Windows shell. HoverDesk and Desktop X are GUI enhancements: Explorer is still the shell when these apps are running, and they are running as apps on top of the shell, not as the shell themselves. They belong to a class of software that includes Winstep (NextStart and WorkShelf) and which significantly change the look and feel of the Windows GUI without replacing Explorer as the shell. Canonblack 19:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A better title?
Since this is a Windows-specific phenomenon, instead of calling this articke "Desktop shell replacement," perhaps a more suitable title would be "Explorer shell replacement?" (Or "Explorer.exe shell replacement") —Tokek 11:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- How about Alternative shell - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 21:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Alternative shell doesn't address the issue. Alternative shell could refer to a unix command line shell, or any other user interface shell replacement. This article is specifically about replacing the windows shell, the part of the windows interface known as "explorer". -- JoshuaRodman (not logged in) 64.142.12.203 11:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- What about something like "Windows desktop environments", "Windows graphical shells", or "Windows desktop shells"? The article could mention the default shell provided with Windows and link to Windows Shell, then explain about alternative shells that can be used. I think that would be better than arbitrarily separating the default shell from "replacement" shells. Herorev 21:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- This looks like it duplicates information from Shell (computing). Therefore, I propose a merge. Any thoughts? -MarkKB 04:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Agreed, this should be either renamed to something like "Windows shell replacements" or merged into Shell (computing). I'm leaning towards a merge, but definitely, the current name is unsuitable. Nibios 06:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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- I've fixed the Merge template to a Mergeto template, and am copying this section to Talk:Shell (computing). Continue discussion there. Guy Harris 18:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Illegal?
"Computer users with the desire can modify explorer.exe extensively."
Isn't that illegal? Josh 18:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wouldn't Microsoft like you to believe that. IANAL, but AFAIK in general, no. I guess if you modified it in order to commit a murder it would be, or if you sold modified copies it might be. But there are lots of ways in which you can. Andrewa (talk) 06:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think what that specific sentence is alluding to is the fact that you can modify many things within explorer.exe without explicitly modifying its source-code (which also isn't illegal per-se). For example, changing the screensaver, background, colour scheme, etc... could all be construed as "modifying explorer". Ooglybooglypants (talk) 20:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Linkfarm
Most of the external links in the article should be removed per WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NOT#LINK --Ronz 15:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done --Ronz (talk) 21:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Removing header from article as issue has been dealt with. Ooglybooglypants (talk) 20:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposed move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move debate was move to Windows shell replacement. Lox (t,c) 08:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Desktop shell replacement → Windows shell replacement — This article is specific just for Windows OS. Thus the title must be specified. (See discussion above) —ΑΜακυχα Θ 03:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
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- Support. The issue hasn't arisen with other operating systems, so this article is likely to remain Windows-only. Andrewa (talk) 06:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Support. Agreed, the context of the article appears to be Windows-specific. ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Support - and it does occur in other OSes... (ie, pre-Win95 windows, and DOS) 132.205.99.122 (talk) 19:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
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- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] Win3.x
Progman.exe could also be replaced. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 19:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ROS Explorer
ROS Explorer now redirects to ReactOS which is now more than just a shell replacement. It is an entire operating system. 70.152.148.230 (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)