User talk:Wilhelmina Will/Archive 1

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THE FOLLOWING IS AN ARCHIVE OF PAST DISCUSSIONS ON THIS USER'S TALKPAGE. PLEASE DO NOT MODIFY IT. SUBSEQUENT COMMENTS OR A REVIVAL OF OLD DISCUSSIONS SHOULD BE MADE ON THE USER'S TALKPAGE. THANK YOU.

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[edit] Re:Thank You

Well, thanks :), I didn't have to carry the message because he has already been blocked. [1]. Next time, all you have to do, is to report vandals at WP:AIV. See ya around -FlubecaTalk 01:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bit of Advice

I know vandalism can be a pain in the neck. I have an article on watch for a favorite actress of mine, and it burns me up every time it gets vandalized (which has happened quite a bit), to the point where I want to give them all vandal4 warnings. Don't become too personally attached to articles. I'm not saying don't revert the vandalisms and warn vandals, but do so in a way that is adherent to policy. I encourage you to check out WP:WARN. There's a complete list of all the things someone can be warned for at various levels (I usually start with level 1 or 2, unless it's a massive amount of vandalism, and work from there), as well as templates to place on the user's talkpage. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me.--Ispy1981 07:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you (Wilhelmina Will, not Ispy1981) ever become an administrator, don't block for one test edit. FunPika 11:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

OK, Which image do you think's been tagged unfairly? Sfan00 IMG 20:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Wilhemina Will, I'm sorry you feel that Sfan00 is being unreasonable about the image but this work is necessary and is not a personal campaign on their part. If you tell me either here or on my talk which image has been tagged I can try and help with adding a fair use rationale to prevent the image being deleted. I've looked but I can't immediately see which image you are referring too as there are a lot of people who Wendy could be! I understand your frustration as image processes are quite complex on Wikipedia but please try and be civil towards the image taggers who are, after all, contributing to Wikipedia just as you and I are! Regards Farosdaughter 20:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Update: I believe I have found the image you were referring to, Image:WendySP.jpg and I've added a rationale which means the image should not be deleted. Please have a look and see what is required so perhaps you can do it in the future if other images on that page get tagged. If you need any help with anything please don't hesitate to contact me. Regards Farosdaughter 21:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
No problem whatsoever. Farosdaughter 21:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Park characters

For the record, referring to a fictional character as a fictional character is not an "insult" but fact. Paul730 22:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iggy Arbuckle Requests

I would agree to assist. However, I'm still new in Wikipedia and possess little knowledge on how to deal with the administrators.

It should be guranteed that the article will have images and other things required. But this could take time. Wikipedia is so strict regards to the embedding of images. This is why a lot of pics from other articles have been speed deleted after being added for some period. Their policy also makes very difficult obtain images. FoxLad 00:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

That's of little help seeing as that's wrong, it's fairly easy to add images and keep them on articles if you can justify it correctly. Nothing hard to it, just requires you do it right, those image deletions FoxLad refers to are because of sloppy tagging of the images, little else.
First of all, RTFM as getting help needn't involve admins. Consider reading WP:UPIMAGE and then WP:PIC for the ways to upload and put them into articles. Don't forget to add the copyright template for it or it'll be deleted (in this case {{Non-free television screenshot}}). If you need more info, I'll be happy to clear up any problems you might encounter, just come and leave me a message on my talkpage as it's unlikely I'll be replying anywhere else. --treelo talk 15:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Message to MartinBot

Hi, I saw your message on MartinBot's talk page. Unfortunately, not only is that bot broken right now, but it's only purpose is to revert vandalism. In fact, most bots just have one or two purposes and they won't take care of anything else. However, these purposes are still really important to the project. I actually can't help you with images either because I am blind, but I thought I would give you this information about bots.Academic Challenger 07:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kira and Jiggers

This is a reply to the last message you sent me. Maybe Jiggers and Kira are attracted to each other. To be honest, I only seen a few of the episodes.FoxLad 10:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plots summaries

The plot summaries you made regarding those episodes on my talk page aren't bad. They're one of the few episodes I have seen. If you plan to make articles regarding those episodes, add a category at the bottom of the page and named it like "Iggy Arbuckle Episodes." Also, they should contain sufficient info so that they won't become candidates for speed delete. FoxLad 04:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

You're planning to make summaries of each episode into separate articles right? Once you wrote all the information needed, just create that category at the bottom of the page.

The administrators these days are so critical regarding the information of a newly made artical which is why you have to put enough into it. Whenever they would put speed delete tags or anything that indicates that the article contains inadequate info, you may try to contact and convince them to let it stay. FoxLad 06:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your request

Hello,

I am sorry, I'm not an administrator and have never been, but good luck with your editing.

Leafyplant 01:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

Just because some person on a fansite says that she dreamt about the characters doesn't mean they exist in an alternate universe. I dream about Buffy characters sometimes, it doesn't mean they're real, it just means that I watch the show a lot so it's part of my subconscious. I really hope you'll drop this theory now because frankly it's getting boring. Respecting another person's beliefs is one thing, but claiming that the South Park characters are real is just ludicrous.

Original research is "unpublished facts, arguments, concepts, statements, or theories." To find out more see WP:NOR. The reason I objected was because the South Park character articles are written from an in-universe perspective. They discuss the character's hobbies and make assumptions about them based on their actions. None of this information has any real world context or is sourced by the writers or critics of the show, which makes it irrelevant and original research. That might be okay on South Park Wiki, which I see you are a member of, but not on an encyclopedia like Wikipedia. (That sounded snobbier than I meant it, I like Wikias.) You have even objected to characters being referred to as fictional, and reverted people who have tried to include this because it is an "insult" to the characters. When I challenged you about this, you claimed that we can't know the characters are fictional because of some dream some fan apparently had. None of this is a valid defense for the state of the current articles. For good examples of how fictional character articles should be written, see Jason Voorhees, Jack Harkness, Jack Sparrow, and Jabba the Hutt, among others. Paul730 21:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tidying up Iggy Arbuckle

As you can see, I haven't changed anything to a great extent, I've just compacted things somewhat. HalfShadow 03:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

To categorize an article, use the following code at bottom of an article:

[[Category:NAME OF CATEGORY]]

I noticed you used the {{ }} brackets, but these are used to transclude (in other words, include the content of another page), usually a template.

You can read more at WP:CAT. I have fixed the article you were talking about. Also for future reference, you can remove the {{uncat}} tag once you add at least one category. Hope this helps. :) --Pilotboi / talk / contribs 06:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes that does help. Thanks three tons! (For three handfuls!) Wilhelmina Will 06:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

No prob, glad I could help. --Pilotboi / talk / contribs 06:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please note:

User:Agweybana is indefinitely blocked due to impersonation of User:Agüeybaná. The imposter was most decidedly uncivil, and any comments they may have made, you should completely disregard, and not worry about. Additionally, you might want to remove your comment on their talk page, as it could probably just feed them. I'm sorry that you had an unpleasant encounter with this editor, but they were taken care of as swiftly as possible. I hope this helps clear things up! Ariel♥Gold 03:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Image:Wikisigbutton.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 22:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Do not remove AfD messages

Do not remove the template until the discussion is over. There is no getting around it now that it has been placed. TTN 18:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please do not make demands

This edit in which you present a list of demands is entirely inappropriate. Trying to coerce editors into agreeing with your position by threating to pester them "for decades", as you say, is not an acceptable venue for conflict resolution. In addition, TTN is under no obligation to help you improve articles. I understand your attachment to your articles and your reason for wanting them on Wikipedia—I really do. Please try to remember to TTN is only trying to enforce Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thanks, Pagrashtak 18:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with episode articles

You should take a look at Homer's Phobia if you want to see an example of what Wikipedia considers a well-written article about a television episode. Note the Production and Reception sections in particular, which are written from a real-world perspective (that is, they describe the real world and not the fictional world in which the show is set). Hope this helps. Feel free to ask if you have any more in/out of universe questions. Pagrashtak 18:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Wilhelmina Will, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! --Richard 21:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your civiliy

I would remind you that you must keep a civil attitude. Edit summaries like this are not civil at all. While TTN may be brusque, and at times incivil, that does not give you license to do the same. Also, do not revert on others' talk pages. They have to right to remove comments as they please. Thank you. i said 19:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Glad you're able to take suggestions. Always a good trait. And what about WarthogDemon? i said 04:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Also, don't feed the trolls, especially after the user is blocked for being a sockpuppet of a banned user. See deny recognition. Miranda 00:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading a file

To upload a file or an image, look in the left handside of the screen, and underneath the search box, there should be a toolbox, in it, it should say "Upload file". Click it, and follow the directions. Dreamy § 11:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hi, thanks for putting that redirect on MOSHEAD. I'm not good at some such simple technical things. Tony (talk) 02:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't take it too hard!

I'm sorry that your article looks doomed: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FThe_Things_We_Do_for_Mud%2F%2FHow_Much_Wood_Can_a_Wood_Pecker_Peck%3F&diff=167740127&oldid=167368281

You are right in implying that many of us forget to use more sympathetic language.

I wish you all the best with your future offspring! Alice.S 01:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Image:Wikisigbutton.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 01:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: What was that all about?!

Umm, yeah... if you're talking about the vandalism by Tha Chronic, you're in the wrong userpage. I'm The Chronic. So...

The Chronic has given you the blank stare and no longer cares what you say. Possibly due to Hanlon's razor, which states "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.", or because this user knows he is correct no matter what you say. Spread the indifference by ignoring someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. The Chronic 03:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) merge

There seem to be a number of issues that have yet to be reconciled regarding the merger of WP:HEAD into WP:MOS:

  • At least some information was not moved from WP:HEAD to WP:MOS, such as information on linking headings
  • The Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) redirect is anchored, but not to a current WP:MOS heading
  • There are still links to WP:HEAD in WP:MOS
  • There are still links to WP:HEAD from other pages, such as WP:GTL

I am not familiar with the full extent of the nature and overlap of the merged information. I only discovered the issues while looking for information (on linking headings), and went in a few circles before finding it only on the old WP:HEAD. I'm not sure what the best solution is; I'm just responding to your edit summary of WP:MOS at 01:30, 27 October 2007. ENeville 17:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erich Hartmann

I don't think it would be considered original research to post such a fact on Eric Cartman's page, as I did no research other than my own mental processes to arrive at that conclusion, but it probably would be considered unsourced trivia, which is admittedly worse as far as Wikipedia content goes. I'll see if I can find it mentioned in someplace reputable, but like you said, I doubt I'll come up with anything. Thank you for the suggestion, though! Sestet 22:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I specified its likelihood as trivia because it's a mere nuance of name-association that warrants, at maximum, a single-sentence. "Original research" isn't solely limited to personal ideas that have yet to be published in some form. For example, if Product X were to have an article on Wikipedia, I could design a scientific experiment (going beyond the realm of mental processes) to test the efficacy of Product X in my basement, but I could not post the results of it here. If Scientific American performed an experiment on Product X's efficacy, however, that would be fair grounds for publication. Anyway, this is a long response to a simple comment. Thank you again. - Sestet 23:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Nothing especially illuminating, but I did find a few .org websites that mentioned the possibility in passing. I don't think any would make for particularly acceptable sources, though. If you'd like to have a look you can drop me a line: Sestet@gmail.com. - Sestet 23:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Messages

Re your message: I must disagree that the user's edits were not vandalism nor unhelpful. Neither this or this were constructive edits. About your other question, while I do have an account on Wiki Commons, I am not an administrator there so I did not delete the image. -- Gogo Dodo 06:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Creations

ABC Daytime; CBS Daytime; [List of General Hospital characters] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 07:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

On the above pages, many NOTABLE pages need to be created (those in red). I would appreciate it if you have the time to create those notable pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 07:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Additions

[edit] Susan Strickler

Strickler is an American television and theatre director; Nominated for three Daytime Emmys (1992, 1993, 2005) and won once in 1992; Nominated for two Directors Guild of America Awards and won once in 1993; Directed Guiding Light, One Life To Live, and Another World; She is close friends with Gary O. Bennett, Linda and David Laundra. [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]

[edit] Darin Goldberg

Goldberg is an American writer and producer on Crude, Zoe Busiek: Wild Card, Strong Medicine, Time of Your Life, Push, Dawson's Creek, Fame L.A., Dangerous Minds, and New York Undercover. His writing partner is Shelley Meals.

[edit] Robin Burger

Burger is an American TV writer and producer on Houston Knights, Diagnosis Murder, Quantum Leap, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Matlock, MacGyver, Wild Card, She Spies, Earth: Final Conflict, Star Trek: Voyager, Remington Steele.

[edit] Carla Kettner

Kettner is an American writer and producer on Pacific Palisades, Due South, Vanished, Cold Squad, Killer Instinct, Judging Amy], Strong Medicine, and Early Edition. She won a 2003 Gracie Allen Award (she shared it with Whoopi Goldberg). [7]

[edit] John Fisher

Fisher is an American television producer; Nominated for three Daytime Emmys and won once for Outstanding Drama Series (2005-2007); Served as a producer on Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist, Politically Incorrect, and The Original Max Talking Headroom Show.

[edit] Deborah Blackwell

Blackwell is an American television network executive who was responsible for the rise of soap opera centric cable network, SOAPnet. Under Blackwell, as general manager, the channel grew in distribution to more than 67 million homes and secured rights from NBC and CBS -- in addition to sib ABC -- to run same-day daytime soap episodes. The channel also acquired off-net primetime skeins such as "One Tree Hill" and "The OC" (and before that, "Melrose Place," "Beverly Hills 90210" and "Dallas"); SoapNet also extended its stable of original programming -- including its first-ever scripted entry, a spinoff of "General Hospital," and reality entry "The Fashionista Diaries." Blackwell left SOAPnet in October of 2007.

[edit] Linda Gase

Linda Gase is an American television writer who has worked on Standoff (co-Executive Producer), Crossing Jordan (co-executive producer), Wild Card, The District (executive story editor; co-producer), Live Through This (executive story editor), ER (Story editor).

[edit] 2 IMDB Links

[edit] Morgan Gendel

Morgan Gendel is an American TV writer & producer 1996 Writers Guild of America nominee; 1996 Primetime Emmy nominee for Outstanding Drama Series; writer on 1-800-Missing, Spider-Man, Nash Bridges, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine; executive producer of The Dresden Files.

[edit] John Leekley

John Leekley American writer & producer on Wolf Lake, Miami Vice, Spawn

[edit] Jeffrey Stepakoff

Jeffrey Stepakoff is a Jewish American writer for Beauty And The Beast, Major Dad, Simon & Simon, Hyperion Bay, The Wonder Years, Dawson's Creek. He developed and wrote Disney’s Tarzan and Brother Bear. His 2007 book, Billion-Dollar Kiss: The Kiss That Saved Dawson's Creek and Other Adventures in TV Writing, was critically-acclaimed.

[edit] Thania St. John

Thania St. John is an American writer and producer on Life Goes On, Buffy the Vampire Slayer,Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, 21 Jump Street, Eureka, Huff, Wild Card, Veritas: The Quest, VR.5, and Roswell.

[edit] Writers/Producers

Laura Maria Censabella is an American playwright and screenwriter. She has been awarded three grants from the New York Foundation for the Arts: two in playwriting for Abandoned in Queens and Three Italian Women, and The Geri Ashur Award in Screenwriting for her original screenplay Truly Mary.

Her short play Posing was nominated for a Pushcart Prize, and The Actual Footage won the Tennessee Chapbook Prize for Drama. Both plays are published in Poems & Plays. She has written the short film adaptation Physics for HBO's Women: Breaking the Rules series, and she has won two Daytime Emmy Awards for her work on ATWT.

Censabella's half-hour independent film Last Call (directed by Robert Bailey) has been an official selection in festivals throughout the world, including the Avignon Film Festival, the Other Venice Film Festival, the Hermosa Shorts Film Festival, the Sedona International Film Festival, Anthology Film Archives, and the Breckenridge Film Festival where it won the Best Short Drama award.

Censabella's teaching experience includes the New School for Drama, the Actors Studio Drama School (where she developed the playwriting program with Romulus Linney), Columbia University's School of the Arts, Columbia College's Undergraduate Writing Program, City University's MFA Writing Program, The Sewanee Writers' Conference, and Summer Literary Seminars. She is a member of the Dramatists Guild and the Writers Guild of America, East, and graduated from Yale University. External Links: MTSU; IMDB-LMC

  • Christian Hawkey is an American author of The Book of Funnels (Winner of the 2006 Kate Tufts Discovery Award), the chapbook HourHour. In 2006 he was given a Creative Capital Innovative Literature Award, and he has also received awards from the Poetry Fund and the Academy of American Poets. He teaches at Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, NY, and his work has recently been translated into German, Slovene, French, and Portuguese.
  • Reed Steiner [20]
  • Shelly Moore is an American screenwriter. Positions Held: GH ( 1996- 2002)
  • Frederick Rappaport
  • Joe Ann Fogle [21]
  • Lewis Arlt: American screenwriter [22] [23] [24]
  • James Fryman
  • Script Coordinator
  • Anthony J. Hilder: American documentary producer & conspiracy theorist. Very notable: Yahoo Search On Hilder
  • Stephen Schenkel is an American TV producer. Positions Held: All My Children's Executive Producer (March 1986-January 1989). Awards & Nominations: Nominated for several Daytime Emmys. [25]
  • David Assael
  • Anne McGrail [26]
  • Michael Switzer: Prolific TV director [27]
  • Nicholas Sgarro
  • Kristina Lear: American actress, writer & director. [28]

[edit] Nina Tassler

Tassler is an American television executive, a graduate of Boston University-bachelor of fine arts in theater), and holds the position of President, CBS Entertainment since September 2004. Her boss is Nancy Tellem, President, CBS Paramount Network Television Entertainment Group. Tassler oversees CBS' prime time, late night and daytime programming, as well as program development for all genres.

Other Positions

  • Executive Vice President, Drama Series Development, CBS Entertainment (July 2003 -September 2004)
  • Senior Vice President, Drama Development, CBS Entertainment (1998- July 2003)
  • Vice President, Drama, CBS Productions (August 1997 - 1998)
  • Vice President, Drama Development, Warner Bros. Television (199? - 1997)
  • Director, Movies and Mini-Series, Lorimar/Warner Bros. Television (1990- ?)
  • External Links: Boston U: Tassler & Promo Magazine

[edit] Live Through This

Live Through This was a shortlived MTV series.

  • Executive producers: Michael Yudin, Bernard Lechowick, Paul Palmer, Robin Spry
  • Producer: Stewart Harding
  • Line producer: Michael Siry
  • Director: John L'Ecuyer
  • Writers: Karen Krenis, Brian Strause, George Huang, Bernard Lechowick
  • Cast: Jane McGregor, Jessica Welch, Sarah Manninen, Tom Lock, Matthew Carey, Bruce Dinsmore, David Nerman, Jennifer Dale, Ron Lea

[edit] That user wants you to create those articles, or as many of them as you can

Just in case you're still wondering what is going on concerning this matter, the user adding all of those additions of headers and links to your talk page wants you to create those articles. I've been tagged to create some of them, as well as other editors. Flyer22 09:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diligence

Thanks for your help on that frustrated IP guy. (:-) - Mtmelendez (Talk) 09:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preview

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. --Geniac 21:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Just in the last hour, you made a few edits each to Iggy Arbuckle and Image:Igggy-arbkle.jpg‎ that could have been combined into one each. Btw, you don't have to number your edits in your edit summaries. --Geniac 21:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies

'My apologies wilhelmina, please don't use those claws on me, and tell me what it takes to get on your good side, hopefully you at least found it somewhat amusing, my apologies as well for using this as communication--yours truly---supra dave

is there an easier way to talk to you, maybe

Hey, ill stop being bad, (as cheesy as this may sound..and creepy as hell,) and help the site if i get ur msn addy or something :P :P'

you know, a msn address in which IM conversations are possible, bloodgod884

[edit] Thanks, WW!

Thanks for creating pages for Strickler, Burger & Goldberg. Could u pls continue with the other ones (about 25)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.106.113 (talk) 04:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November 2007 personal attack in edit summary of Image:WendySP.jpg

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. UserDoe 21:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment on my talkpage

  • First: I use templates for warnings. Second: Calling an editor "Idiot" is considered a personal attack. Your edit summary looked like this

    You idiot! Miss Testaburger is not a minor character! She may not have been in any recent roles, but dammit, she deserves better than this! Until season eight, she was secondary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:WendySP.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=170179227

    Third: You don't need to agree with Wikipedia's policies, they exist and editors ought to follow these policies. I will not comment on your language and the rest of your text. Without words. UserDoe 21:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The editor who placed the WP:NFCC tag is simply saying that the image fails #3 and #8 of WP:NFCC which states:

3. (a) Minimal usage. As few non-free content uses as possible are included in each article and in Wikipedia as a whole. Multiple items are not used if one will suffice; one is used only if necessary. (b) Minimal extent of use. An entire work is not used if a portion will suffice. Low- rather than high-resolution/fidelity/sample length is used (especially where the original could be used for piracy). This rule also applies to the copy in the Image: namespace. 8. Significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Non-free media files are not used if they can be replaced by text that serves a similar function.

I can't tell you if the character is indeed not significant to the whole topic. I'm also taking no sides here, I'm neutral. I mainly posted a warning on your talk page, because you were calling another editor names in your edit summary. You should resolve your dispute with user Rettetast by yourself and without using any more personal attacks. Reasonable discussions are more helpful than attacking each other. UserDoe 22:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments to TTN

Cool it on the sarcastic remarks. -- Ned Scott 05:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cant

i cant even edit my own fucking talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.108.240 (talk) 08:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dont

dont sheeple Wikipedians get it? i will NEVER create an account. NEVER ever. N-E-V-E-R. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.108.240 (talk) 09:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kenny

I know it's a fact, I watch the show. However, we should have a source confirming that the reason Kenny is allowed to swear uncensored is because of his hood muffling his voice. Obviously that's why, but unfortunately "obviously" means nothing on Wikipedia because what might be obvious to one person may not be to another. Everything needs to be sourced, we cannot jump to conclusions, no matter how small a jump it may be.  Paul  730 23:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The vandalism of TTN

I'd like to think your work would help, but to guys like TTN, no episode is safe. Besides, your Iggy Arbuckle article is tagged too, along with the episodes. If you can improve them, good for you. Just don't ever think they'll always be safe with any members of the deletion crew. ----DanTD 01:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting trick. I wonder how well that works. Most of the Kim Possible articles aren't mine either, but I still think they shoule be revived, even the episodes that I think sucked. ----DanTD 02:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
For the record, there is a Kim Possible Wiki. In fact, there are more than one. The trouble is, I can't seem to get it up to the standards of the current wikipedia page. I also tried to make an Even Stevens Wiki, and nobody on the fan wiki wanted to give me any help. And some revelations on other articles TTN deleted, has given me even more bad faith in his motives, despite the fact that he handed me a sandbox link. ----DanTD 05:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Of course they're free!

The images are not free because you don't hold the copyright to those images. They are from a copyrighted TV show, not your personal collection. -- LAX 05:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, the show is copyrighted and unless you get permission from the copyright holders, your (technically) stealing the images (unless you provide a detailed, well-written fair-use rationale). -- LAX 06:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Huh? -- LAX 06:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Bottom line is that...

1. The images you upload from the show Iggy Arbuckle, are non-free.
Solution: Tag the images with the appropriate copyright tags, probably {{Non-free television screenshot}}.
2. Just because you took the screenshot yourself, doesn't mean you hold the copyright.
Solution: Don't claim fair-use images as your own.
3. Provide a detailed, well-written fair-use rationale.
Solution: Read Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline
– LAX 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] AfD nomination of Robin Burger

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As discussed and as you seem prepared for, these are the articles that you ghostwrote for that unregistered and abusive IP. Notifying you IAW wikipolicy, but will also attempt to do the same for that blocked fellow. Sorry he treated you that way. --LeyteWolfer 16:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Darin Goldberg

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[edit] AfD nomination of Susan Strickler

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[edit] Warning

Please refrain from threatening Wikipedia users, as you did on the talk page of 67.168.95.70. This is not only impolite, but against wikipedia policy. Further violations of this policy will be forwarded to an administrator for discipline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.207.127.254 (talk) 04:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FROM RIANON BURNET

How do you design your page, I don't know how to. Can you help me?

Rianon 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Iggy Arbuckle articles

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[edit] Blocked user

I assume you're referring to User:Phermannronald? That user was the latest reincarnation of a notorious sockpuppeteer. See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/IP check#Pee Wee Herman vandal and User:TigerShark/PeeWee. Also, for future reference, what the user was doing absolutely was vandalism. Did you read their list of "demands"? GlassCobra 21:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious? The user wasn't asking for MoS guidelines to be changed; he was asking for two editors to leave totally, and for all his sockpuppets to be granted administrator status, as well as permanent changes to any references to McDonald's, Ronald, and other articles that he frequently edits. You clearly need a fuller grasp of the situation. GlassCobra 21:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I have no idea how you could possibly be reading what that user said in the way that you have. They were not requests, they were demands, and he said that he will continue to vandalize if they are not met. Wikipedia does not cater to users attempting to hold process hostage. GlassCobra 23:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, if this isn't vandalism then I don't know what is. And that was his/her first contribution under that name. - Jeeny (talk) 23:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this link is better. Please read what he changed the article from and then to. This is an actor, not a character. :) - Jeeny (talk) 23:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

As I said earlier, you clearly don't have a full grasp of this situation. This user has abused several sockpuppets in order to vandalize Wikipedia. See [29], [30], and [31], on this sock alone. See the links that I pointed to you for other blatant vandalism edits committed by this user under many different names. GlassCobra 00:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I think she gets it now. Also, I agree that honey is better, but not when you have been stung first. lol. :) - Jeeny (talk) 01:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TTN

Do you have any ida how to stop this guy? Please contact me on my talk page if you'd like to coordinate something (anything). --HanzoHattori (talk) 04:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

There is already an arbitration request in which TTN is a significant party. If you have comment, or wish to contribute, you may participate in the arbitration case, should it be accepted. Conspiring against editors is not a good way to work through problems. I (talk) 04:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The answer, in no more than one wiki-link

WP:ADMIN#Becoming_an_administrator. (Sorry if I'm being a jackass like this, I couldn't resist :) ). -MissingNOOO 06:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, a lot of people don't like it when I link them to something that gives them the answer in just about as much detail as necessary, no more, no less. But apparently, you like to read pertinent information :) -MissingNOOO 06:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In replying to the comment on my talk page.

I was just asking... TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 11:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I know the messages I sent you weren't really nice, so I removed them, can we just drop the discussion? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 21:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thank you I appreciate your advice :) Rianon

[edit] RE:TTN

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I happen to have TTN's talk page on my watchlist so I just saw your most recent post there about s/he not liking you. Please take this as friendly advice but I get the impression that constantly trying to interact with someone you've been in conflict with can be rather like constantly pestering them and can be an annoyance. I know you want to try to make peace but it might be best to simply leave TTN be and not constantly jump into every conversation on his talk page (I know I say that as I'm doing the same thing!) Unless you are in conflict over a specific article in the future I recommend just going your own way, it makes your life on wiki much more pleasant not to dwell on the old issues! Stardust8212 01:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I understand just wanting to help (look at me!) but sometimes trying too hard to help only annoys people (I've certainly fallen in that trap). Anyway, as far as the way TTN handles episode articles goes, that's currently part of an ongoing arbitration case and it will be dealt with by that process. It'll probably be about a month before any real results come from it but you might be interested in whatever the outcome is. Just something else to think about. Stardust8212 03:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I found the Polish one {{User Polish Ancestry}}, I'd recommend just doing some searches for things like "Polish User", "German User", etc., that's how I found that one. I don't know any of them off the top of my head though since I generally limit my userbox usage. Stardust8212 03:56, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Although I don't have TTN's talk page on my userlist, I did find User_talk:TTN#What the hell have you done?. Your actions give me little choice in the matter. I hope you understand that in this case…

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LOL! I was nearly in tears. I mean, who would turn down a cookie, much less two! Enjoy the cookie I've given you, and keep up the good work promoting WikiLove. ☺

Ok, comedy aside, I do agree with Stardust8212 that it's best to simply leave TTN alone. Good luck! Taric25 (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Why do they do it?

Maybe they don't know South Park Wiki exists. I usually link to Buffyverse Wiki at the bottom of Wikipedia articles so people have a place to go to find the info not available or suitable for Wikipedia. It's a bit cheeky, since I'm trying to advertise the wiki and divert some traffic over there, but I do think it's important to link to external wikis since Wikipedia does support transwiki-ing info. In my experience, people trying to add trivia-type info are larely happy to be directed to a place where their contributions are appreciated rather than reverted, and I see some editors at Wikia who only found the site through Wikipedia. Some editors here complain that Wikia doesn't always pass WP:EL, but I argue that the ends justify the means because if people are directed to the site, then it stands more of a chance of passing WP:EL. I believe they two site should co-operate. Not to mention the fact that we link to IMDb and other cites, and they're not always reliable. Try gently directing editors adding inappropiate material here to the SP Wiki, or linking there on Wikipedia articles. Why do you ask anyway? :)  Paul  730 01:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it can be frustrating, I agree with you. You feel as though there's a perfect solution and noone's taking advantage of it. I think the more developed the Wikia is, the more willing people are to contribute to it. The Buffyverse Wiki is becoming a bit more active lately (that's not saying much, but it is encouraging). The SP Wiki seems quite good actually, I'm sure how active it is but your articles are a lot less stubby than some Wikias. One way you might be able to lure a few editors over is with images - Wikipedia is very strict with non-free images and I think (not certain though) that Wikia is more welcoming. Maybe if you decorate the SP Wikia with lots of images and screencaps from episodes, people might think "Ooh, that's pretty I like it here." That's just a theory though. :P I've barely been on the Buffy Wiki lately, and my edit count over here has been lower than usual as well. I'm still full of intentions, like yourself, just been distracted with other things.  Paul  730 01:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Lol, sure thing. You might want to re-add some basic info to the Wikipedia Kyle article though. It barely even mentions that he's Jewish, which is one of his most basic character traits. Definitely get rid of the Death section from Wikipedia too, that's total fancruft. One thing when moving info to Wikia is fixing links. I often don't do it because I'm lazy but articles will sometimes have different titles and you'll have to adjust the links accordingly. For example, an article might be called "Imaginationland (South Park)" on Wikipedia but on SP Wiki it would just be "Imaginationland", if you know what I mean. Also, if you're linking something basic which SP Wiki doesn't have an article for, you might want to put [[Wikipedia:Word You're Linking|Word You're Linking]] to link here instead. And remember to link to SP Wiki in the Wikipedia article "External links" section. :) See Help:Archiving a talk page.  Paul  730 05:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] yup, i know what it means

""Dit artikel is nog niet gereed voor Wikipedia"."

it means "this article isn't ready yet for Wikipedia", literally translated· Lygophile has spoken 04:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

ah yeah, i was hoping the literal translation was gonna make sense in english or with the context you would have. i can't really figure what it would be in more typical english, because this sentence in dutch is i think as unspecified as the english sentence i gave, so it would depend on context.
i also think the Dutch sentence may be a somewhat inaccurate translation form German or English itself so..
but as the sentence is is supposed to mean that it fails requirement for inclusion in Wikipedia. which i find somewhat odd..
i would guess what they're trying to say is that the article is a stub and requires more contend· Lygophile has spoken 04:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Civility...

This isn't exactly nice. Let's try to stay WP:CIVIL, ok? Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺) 04:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

"Dear FullMetal Falcon, this issue was discussed a year ago at Location A. Consensus was that the article is notable enough to keep; however, I was just wondering what your reasoning is for recommending a merge. Thanks..."
To me, that sounds much better. Try to be courteous, patient, and explain the full situation to the user; maybe they haven't gotten part of it, or they have a valid reason for doubting consensus. Calling people pests is bordering on a personal attack. I hope you understand, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺) 04:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No real "consensus" can be found prior to December 2007, just a ranting IP. Between then and now, overall things never changed for the better for these articles. I simply readded the tag a closing afd administrator originally placed. « ₣ullMetal ₣alcon » 13:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of fictional species in South Park

you are violating our WP:NFC policy. βcommand 00:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't take it personally. The purpose of policy is to make it easier for stupid people like BC to have a purpose in life. 72.205.14.47 (talk) 00:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Haha no, I'm not from British Columbia. I was referring to Betacommand. 72.205.14.47 (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Perhaps you already knew, but

I was laughing at your threats toward Betacommandbot. What a joke. Timeshift (talk) 02:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Image:MelinaPerez.jpg listed for deletion

Thanks, and even though the image is unused and "blurry", I don't think it sould be deleted. What do you think? Cheers, LAX 02:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I actually cropped it from a different image. Cheers, LAX 02:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No position from me

I simply made the move because I felt it was the best way to help the project. I also placed a references-needed tag on the article, and someone more invested in the page than I am needs to attempt to find at least a few out-of-universe references to some of these fictional species, or it it may be back to the list, and out with the images, in order to keep the article from being deleted as unsourced. Good luck to you! Bellwether BC 08:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minivan Vandal

Hey Man.

It is nice to see you stick up for Maxim, but really, just don't talk to the vandal.

This guy is just mad because we reverted his constant adding of POV into the GM Minivan articles. And now, he is doing this because he wants to get a rise out of us. Every time I dealt with a vandal, they eventually grew tired and stopped, and this guy won't' be any different. You see how he personally attacks me, yet I never say a word to him. We just need to not give this assfuck attention, as that is what he wants. If we just RWB (Revert warn block) this guy, then he will eventually grow tired and stop, as he sees that he won't get a rise out of us. If you threaten him, that is just incentive for him to keep doing it. So, please, don't threaten him, and just let this pass. When he sees that we aren't going to give him any special attention, he'll stop. So, in a nutshell, don't feed the trolls. Karrmann (talk) 03:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] personal attack warning

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Secret account 03:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I warned you once in that AFD, and you did it again, this is my last warning, if you do it again I will block you for 24 hours Secret account 03:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[32] is a very obvious personal attack Secret account 04:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:TimmyTurner.gif listed for deletion

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[edit] Thank you

Thank you for starting my page for me. I was a little confused to see my name in red every time. Thanks again Grieferhate (talk) 12:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] South Park - Why do you call it Vandalism?

Are you referring to this revert? If you do, please undo it. What caused this particular revert on my part is my lack of understanding of the South Park culture. Jazzeur (talk) 05:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Try to refrain from abusive edit summaries

Your edit summary for List of The Fairly OddParents characters‎ that says "Please go away. You're not helping here." is a bit uncivil and not needed. You and TTN obviously don't agree on things, but that doesn't mean you need to post an abusive summary. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Unless he is somehow banned from editing that article (which could happen I guess), you are going to have to just deal with it. Telling someone to go away isn't the correct thing to do. Why post something that he probably wont even read or listen to? Just revert and if he continues, keep an eye out for 3RR violations. RobJ1981 (talk) 20:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop yourself

You have taken it upon yourself to undo thousands of hours of work by hundreds of editors without even trying to discuss this on the South Park project page. You are a wholesale vandal and need to be stopped. Captain Infinity (talk) 00:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

[edit] Good Goal, Bad Technique

I see you took off after South Park, which I wholly endorse. However, you can see that it hasn't worked out well, so I would stop for a bit. Each of those articles that needs cleaned up, put a cleanup tag on about the problems. Put a notice up on the talk pages for the list of episodes indicating which ones need cleaned up, and set a time that you will merge them. After that, you stand a chance. Just cold redirecting them won't work well.Kww (talk) 00:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. You will more than likely end up aggravating the situation if you continue. For now just try discussion the issue with the parties involved. -- bulletproof 3:16 01:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR Reminder for Free Hat

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Free Hat. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 01:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] episodes

You might want to at least put a notice on the talk page about all of this. If it were me, I'd place merge notices for season pages (would need to be created), which would be less likely to cause panic. -- Ned Scott 06:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Just letting you know, WP:ANI#Episodes and WP:POINT. -- Ned Scott 06:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Somewhat related, it would also be good to add the {{w:wikipedia}} template on the bottom of any article you've transwikied to southpark.wikia.com. -- Ned Scott 06:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Correction, you want to use just {{Wikipedia}} on the Wikia articles. -- Ned Scott 06:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You alone had better not redirect a myriad of articles without putting up any notice, merely based on your personal interpretation of notability . Please revert yourself, use the merge template and start a discussion, now. Or else your edits will be reverted. Regards, - PeaceNT (talk) 07:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I've reverted your edits. You must start a discussion first, which means before you actually redirect any pages. (As opposed to redirect artciles first and explain later) Please wait for consensus to be achieved before carry on this work. Thanks, - PeaceNT (talk) 07:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
That's why s/he has been receiving endless complaints on WP:ANI & WP:AN for the last year, plus a notorious arbcom case. Sorry, but I have to ask you to stop your pointy behaviour, and do not follow TTN's actions. Regards, - PeaceNT (talk) 07:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ~ Riana ⁂ 07:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] January 2008

With regard to your comments on User talk:68.7.185.75: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey...

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Come on - nothing on Wikipedia is so bad that you think about horrible things :) Just switch off the computer and step away for a while, do something fun, call a friend, go for a walk, all that sort of thing. Truly Wikipedia's not worth that. If you need help with anything please do call on me. You have to understand that there are certain ways we do things around here, to avoid this sort of heartache. If your suggestions are not amenable to others, it's best to step away from the fight for a while and gain some perspective offline. Little things can really snowball around here and it can be hard for people to keep calm, but we all have to, otherwise this little deal would fall apart :) Please feel better. ~ Riana ⁂ 01:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trolling

Take a look at Wikipedia:What is a troll? GlassCobra 23:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A request, with all due respect.

Please stop stalking me. Thank you. Captain Infinity (talk) 02:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Fine. Understand, then, that I am a part of the South Park Wikiproject, and watch just about every SP article. My edit was reverted by TTN, and he explained why in his summary. That was enough for me and I considered the case closed, and I made no further action to revive the article. I fail to understand, then, why you need to pop onto my talk page with a borderline insulting question written in an arrogant tone. "What on Earth are you doing?" is not a question conducive to a civil response; its tone is combative. I do not wish to engage in a confrontation with you. It may be best if we both try to keep out of each other's faces. What do you say? Captain Infinity (talk) 02:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but you'll need to send another message if you want the last word. You have said, and I quote, "Wikipedia's articles on South Park don't deserve to be as good as the information given in South Park Wiki." I find this attitude towards Wikipedia offensive, and indicative that you have an agenda to disrupt and damage Wikipedia's South Park articles in an attempt to make the South Park wiki "better" somehow. Perhaps you should concentrate more on developing the South Park wiki and less on removing content from Wikipedia. Both can exist on the same internet, you know. Peace, out. Captain Infinity (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a few) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [33]. --Maniwar (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit]  :u)

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[edit] RE: How do you do it?

LOL, well, I don't really "get other users to notice" me. I am usually very active on RCP and people just notice that, I guess. Don't worry; Barnstars in no way represent anything really. Keep doing what you're doing. - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dookie.JPG

I have restored the image as requested. Please fill in all the gaps in the templates I have added to the description page and restore the link to the article. It is still tagged for speedy deletion, so you have 7 days to do so :) Papa November (talk) 09:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage images license problems

Hello! This is probably a simple clarification, but I wanted to bring it to your attention. The text on the image pages you have on your userpage seems to indicate that the images are "for Wikipedia only" (for example, stating that you give Wikipedia or other wikis permission to use them). This type of license is not compatible with free content, since one essential component of free content is that anyone must be allowed to use the content in any medium and for any purpose, whether the original or a modified version. Nonfree pictures may not be used in non-article space such as user pages. I see you have public-domain license tags on the images, did you really mean to release them public-domain (no restrictions on use whatsoever?) This would be fine, as would the GFDL or certain Creative Commons licenses, but in that case the text restricting the pictures to nonfree status should be removed for clarity's sake. If you need any help getting the licensing in order so the pictures can remain, please let me know! If you would prefer not to release your work under a free license at this time, please let me know as well and I will delete the images. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Not sure about hexes, but I'm not really clear. Does your permission extend to uses other than Wikipedia and other wikis, or is that something you wish to prohibit? As it stands, the images aren't under an acceptable license, since use outside of a certain medium (wikis) appears to be prohibited. I'm not really clear on whether that's your intent or not, since they're also public-domain tagged. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Thank you for your comment on my talk page. The semi-automated tool that I use to revert vandalism automatically puts the link in the warning. This is to show evidence to possible blocking admins that vandalism has been done. This also points out where the user has gone wrong. My edit to that page that mentioned may have been in error. Feel free to revert me and/or remove the warning from the I.P.'s talk page. If you require any help whatsoever or have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me :-) Take care, friend! ScarianCall me Pat 22:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Most likely all the SP articles attract a lot of attention. Just in case you didn't know: WP:RFPP would be a good place to request for article protection if an article is being vandalised heavily and incessantly. If you need anything don't hesitate to ask :-) ScarianCall me Pat 23:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Non-free use disputed for Image:EntireIggyArbucklecast.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:EntireIggyArbucklecast.jpg. Unfortunately, I think that you have not provided a proper rationale for using this image under "fair use". Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. Note that the image description page must include the exact name or a link to each article the image is used in and a separate rationale for each one. (If a link is used, automated processes may improperly add the related tag to the image. Please change the fair use template to refer to the exact name, if you see this warning.)

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted after seven days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Collectonian (talk) 05:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not used to replying on my own talkpage, but since you preferred it, okay:
Well what am I supposed to do? What sort of a rationale would be suitable for this kind of an image, in that case? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 06:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The license needs to be corrected. It is not a screenshot at all, but a promotional image. The image need to be reduced in size to comply with fair use. No more than 800 pixels on the longest side, at best. See Image:TrinityBloodMen.jpg for an example of the appropriate license and fair use template this particular kind of image needs. Collectonian (talk) 06:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I did all that you asked, and I even cleaned up the fair use rationale as much as I could think to do. Is it all right now, or is there something left to be done? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
The size is good and that's better. I've gone ahead and finished the last bit it needed. Collectonian (talk) 07:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gwen Stefani

Hi, regarding this edit, please don't add info without a source. WP:V is non-negotiable and any material that is challenged can be removed at any time, thanks. Spellcast (talk) 08:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw the edit summary, but the burden of evidence is on the person who adds the info. You say it's not fair to remove info which could be true. If that's the case, why not let people add random speculation? Afterall, they could be true. Adding a ref is not optional. Otherwise, how do we know it's not being made up? Spellcast (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Please stop damaging the South Park articles. There is no contest going on, and your attempts to somehow make your beloved South Park Wiki "superior" to Wikipedia by deleting Wikipedia's South Park content is misguided and and unwelcome. Damaging one does not improve the other, and believe me the South Park Wiki needs a LOT of improvement. Please concentrate your efforts there. Thank you. Captain Infinity (talk) 23:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You're behaving like a child. Grow up. Captain Infinity (talk) 01:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Avoiding me is a great idea and I encourage it as I'm sure we are both tired of each other. However, if you continue to try to sabotage Wikipedia by vandalising its South Park articles I will continue to be there to repair damage you do. Captain Infinity (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Wilhelmina

Thanks for the message, Wilhelmina. With great power comes great responsibility, and no admin should be so self-confident as to think that they can't make errors. Anybody who deletes images without permission has to live with the possibility that they might do so in error, and should keep accurate records in order to undo their mistake if necessary rather than blaming the victim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhodgson (talk • contribs) 05:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

This edit summary is completely inappropriate. Please re-acquaint yourself with our policy on civility and refrain from using this sort of edit summary in the future. Thanks, Gwernol 23:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

"People do it all the time" - whether true or not - is not an excuse for you to do it too. If other people use inappropriate edit summaries, you are welcome to ask them not to, but it does not give you a license to break the rules. If you seriously don't understand what is wrong with your edit summary, I suggest you take a break from editing Wikipedia for a while and find someone who can explain it to you. Meanwhile if you continue to break our policy on civility you are likely to find yourself blocked from editing. Best, Gwernol 00:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
That edit summary is simply the continuation of a metaphor introduced by the previous editor : / 86.44.6.14 (talk) 02:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to France, you will be blocked from editing. Randomly inserting claims that an article contains WP:OR without mentioning any of it on the talk page or in the edit summary looks very much like disruptive behaviour. Combined with your derogatory edit comments, it's rather obvious that you're edits are not intended to improve Wikipedia. JdeJ (talk) 09:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

It might be inappropriate, it might be the worst possible thing EVER, but it's certainly not vandalism. -- Ned Scott 10:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

This is your only warning.
The next time you make a personal attack as you did at Talk:France, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 24-hour block

Hello. I'm afraid that no warning (final or otherwise) is needed for something that over-the-top. Please do not direct threats (or curses, or whatever you opt to call that attack) toward other users, or the block duration will become prohibitive. Thx. El_C 10:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Far overdue, in my unsolicited opinion. Captain Infinity (talk) 17:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't see what I've done as wrong. People have called me a vandaliser, when all I've ever made are good faith edits. And certain articles would fall apart if I'm not there. In future I'll just ignore users who call me a vandaliser when I'm not. Now unbind me. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

And besides, I thought you and I were on avoiding terms. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] but seriously

While I do get a small kick of out people panicking over what you've said, please listen to them, at least the spirit of their message. I know we haven't agreed on stuff in the past, but I can relate to your frustration that you are feeling. It's the wiki-maddness, and you can't let it get to you (or you might end up like me) -- Ned Scott 10:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I reeeeealy can't stress this enough. I've seen you make good comments, then I've seen you go off and pretty much define WP:POINT, and that blocks out the good comments you've said. -- Ned Scott 10:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I ask: Are we a Nazi society?

Why are people not allowed to speak their minds, here? If someone gets hurt, then let them! It is their own fault, that they take offense. I support freedom of speech; if I want to call someone a bastard, I should be allowed. In the same respects, others might call me one, or something else. I can let live the policies for how to edit the articles, but for the communication policies, I do not accept. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Look, someone let me off. I admit I have tempural problems, but I can improve them. Maybe talk something over with someone instead. Just let me down from here. Make me an administrator, and I'll shut up those with smart-mouths. For good. Can we all agree? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The reason we ask editors to remain civil is because it encourages a collaborative environment where editors feel welcome and where their contributions are valued. Throwing around insults tends to put a lot of people off and Wikipedia is nothing without its editors. If you are interested in a forum where different rules apply, there are plenty of them on the web. If you are not able to act in a civilized fashion, you will find yourself blocked from editing here. If you want to become an administrator, you are welcome to apply at requests for admin. You should be aware through, that admins are expected to be well versed in Wikipedia policy and follow it. You might want to demonstrate that you are able to work within the rules before apply to help enforce them. Good luck, Gwernol 01:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
By the way, if you want to formally ask for your block to be removed early, add {{unblock|reason}} to this page, replacing reason with the reason you believe you should be unblocked. An administrator will then review your request. Gwernol 01:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you! And now I say:

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "I see. Yes I admit, you do win more flies with honey than with vinegar. Yes I know I am wrong to curse other users - even if the curse is of Jewish origin. Yes I should just calmly question them on why they think what I did was wrong. If User:JdeJ is reading this, I want you to know, Justin: I was being in good faith when I tagged France. I love that country, and its people, and its products, and any written works relating to it. I merely saw problems like those I tagged - or what I thought were problems - and I therefore notified editors by placing the tags at the top. I didn't mean to cause harm, and I would have explained myself in the talkpage for the article if I had known you are expected to do so. And I am sorry about my outburst and cursing you - which, by the way, I have since lifted - but I don't like being told that I have vandalised the site when I haven't. It is like with User:Captain Infinity; he said that when I redirected all of the episode pages for South Park that I did, he said I was vandalising. I didn't know it wasn't to be appreciated! I thought - after having watched User:TTN - that that sort of act was considered good in Wikipedia! After I received all those complaints, and I was addressed gently and explanatively by that nice User:Riana, I stopped.

I merely am used to speaking my mind, but I sometimes forget that some things on my mind other users don't want to hear. I am polite to some, like User:Maxim, and wicked to others, like User:Kloth or User:Captain Infinity. But I used to be polite to everyone; however, after witnessing events I saw as cruel, perhaps I was conditioned by it. Maybe I've forgotten much of how to be polite.

As I have said with a userbox's assistance, I try to do the right thing, and should be notified if I have not. The thing is, I wasn't prepared for so many people to find fault with what I have done. But I now understand why everyone is so angry in my presence, and I'm sorry. I am willing to try harder to make everyone feel welcome in Wikipedia; I have always been happy to be here; won't someone please unbind me and set me free again? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)"

Decline reason: "I really can't see in your rant any good reason for unblock other than you're sorry for what happened. Frankly, this is a short enough block and I think it would be better for you to just wait it out and spare the histrionics. — Daniel Case (talk) 05:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)"

Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.

Along the way, there is a fair-use image with no rationale, which I want to save. Please set me free! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Please let me go! I have waited for forty minutes now, why won't anyone let me go? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Please! I said I was sorry, and I meant it. This is a terrible case of injustice, here! Does nobody trust that I am willing to change my ways? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Does nobody even care that I have duties to be fulfilled here, and that this is preventing me from doing so? I beg of you; let me out! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have now asked six or seven times, won't anyone please let me go! Or at least explain why they won't! It just isn't fair. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Let me out! Please let me out! Do not ignore my cries! Let me out! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

But I have an internet use lock, which is activated two hours and seven minutes before my block has expired. And a fair use image which needs to be saved cannot wait, as it may be deleted or threatened of deletion at any time. Please unbind me and set me free. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 06:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Wilhelmina, I'm not sure what your "internet lock" is, but it really isn't vital that you are unblocked in a certain timeframe. If a fair use image you have uploaded (presumably Image:The Wildlifeexperience Log.gif) is deleted because you have not supplied a fair use rationale for it, you can always upload it again - with the proper rationale - later once your "internet lock" releases. It is really is not the end of the world if an article is missing its image for a few days. Why not read this essay and relax a little? Wikipedia will survive one article not having an image for a while. Best, Gwernol 06:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
No, actually, that image was uploaded by me. I always upload fair use images with appropriate rationales, summaries and licenses. But I also save countless fair use images which other users uploaded but did not supply with all the necessary equipment. Besides, this whole wiki-jail time was brought on because I was not being very nice to other users; I'm not outrightly saying this, but I don't think your reason for decline was very nice. I'm sorry, but that is how I honestly feel. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
And I am sorry about the "histrionics"; I just get hyper when I'm seemingly ignored. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your message. And I agree, you had some good reasons to tag France, the section on the name that you mentioned was spot on. Always when tagging, it's good to state briefly what the problem is so that other users know which sources they should look for. Having read your explanation of the tags, I don't see any problem with them at all, on the contrary. Keep up the good work of spotting weak statements! :) JdeJ (talk) 21:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I meant that you've been naughty, and it was just a matter of time until you got spanked. What you seem to fail to realize is that your fellow editors are human beings just like you, with feelings and a desire to be appreciated. Your edits which damage the encyclopedia are easy to fix, but when you use cruel words to provoke or threaten your fellow editors you do damage which cannot be remedied. Perhaps you are too young to realize it (or perhaps you do realize it yet are indifferent) but words have power. In either case, you need to become more aware of how your words affect your peers, and try to work alongside them instead of in opposition to them. Captain Infinity (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)