Talk:William Johnson, 1st Baronet

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[edit] Additions and Revisions

Hello, Fergananim here. Have just made a a great number of significant additions to this article, based on a brilliant new bio (see Sources). I hope the original writer dos'nt mind! 12th August 2005.

[edit] The Benjamin West Portrait

Please note that the National Gallery of Art still has the Benjamin West portrait listed as follows:

Benjamin West, American, 1738 - 1820
Colonel Guy Johnson and Karonghyontye (Captain David Hill), 1776
oil on canvas, 202 x 138 cm (79 1/2 x 54 3/8 in.)
Andrew W. Mellon Collection, 1940.1.10
The British superintendent of northeastern America's six Indian nations, Guy Johnson commissioned this impressive portrait in 1776 while in London to secure that royal appointment. Sailing from Canada, Johnson must have been accompanied by his close friend Karonghyontye, a Mohawk chief who also went by the English name of David Hill. The alliance between British forces and several Indian tribes seriously threatened the rebel colonists' chances of victory during the Revolutionary War.
For this likeness, Benjamin West devised a complex allegory. To signify Johnson's role as ambassador to the Indians, his red-coated uniform is equipped with moccasins, wampum belt, Indian blanket, and Mohawk cap. Karonghyontye points to a peace pipe, while Johnson grasps a musket. This suggests that harmony between Europeans and Indians will be maintained at all costs. The concept of cooperation extends to the background, where an Indian family gathers peacefully before a British military tent.
West claimed that Pennsylvania Indians had taught him to mix paints from berries and clays when he was a child. A notably diplomatic man, he served George III as a court painter while urging the king to grant independence to the colonists!

I don't believe that this portrait is universally accepted as being of Sir William Johnson. The caption should at least be changed to indicate this uncertainty. Nonenmac 14:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The only "evidence" I can find in O'Toole's book to back his claim that this picture is of William Johnson, is that the falls in the background is Niagara Falls. As someone who has seen both Niagara Falls and Cohoes Falls I say that these falls are definitely not Niagara Falls and that they look similar to Cohoes Falls. I think this picture should be removed. BradMajors 01:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
O'Toole has other reasons, based in part on his interpretation of a series of West portraits, but we don't need to go into it in this article. I'd remove the picture from this article and briefly discuss O'Toole's theory only in the Guy Johnson article. —Kevin Myers 09:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irrelevant Pictures

I recommend the removal of the irrelevant pictures of Brant, Henrick, and John Johnson. BradMajors 03:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree. The images certainly could be re-added if anyone ever writes a serious, full-length article. Until then, we have image overload. —Kevin Myers 09:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] False Information

There are many falsities in this article. My father and I descend from William Johnson and Mary Brandt, we have read and discussed it and found that the information which explains William as a slave holder is false, my father said that William was strongly opposed to slavery and the bounty of scalping children. Also, my father said that scalping is Irish tradition and that the Mahicans learned this from Irish. Please correct this article and prove the authenticity of its sources. GLogic (talk) 07:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)