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Prince.timotheus 09:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Firestorms in war

Should the Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II be mentioned? To my mind (Eurocentric I admit) it's one of the most famous firestorms in history. Man-made and urban firestorms are not mentioned. The Great Fire of London is another example of an urban firestorm. 194.74.200.66 09:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Why would this be mentioned on the "wildfire" page? There's a separate page for "firestorm".--76.102.179.122 06:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Top

I wish someone could restore the other picture to the article. Certainly we could have more than one picture. Rmhermen 14:23, Oct 31, 2003 (UTC)

I have a problem with the caption -- there's no way that this picture was taken from the International Space Station. I know omg, i need this website of wildfires for a project and i need pictures, not fake one.....kkoooll

Fire in San Bernadino Mountains

66.153.56.194 02:05, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It says that's where it was taken from here: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3?img_id=11805 - Evil saltine 06:42, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I e-mailed the NASA contact on that web page and a human confirmed it was taken from the ISS. Tempshill 15:55, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Shouldn't the listing of famous wildfires be moved to the List of historic fires?Rsduhamel 07:28, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Nice PD photo of an Italian helicopter filling up its water bag from a pool here.

[edit] Too Many Images

In my totally unconsidered opinion, there are a few too many images at the top of this page, resulting in the text being seriously warped. Can't we spread them out a bit? --Orborde 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, there are quite a few large images and not that much text. However, I do agree with your diagnosis, so if you can find a better arrangement, go ahead. Change image sizes as well if need be. Rl 07:50, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I spent a little bit of time cleaning up the article and shrinking images. It should not appear to be as crowded as it was before.

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[edit] ha to km² to acres

Please be careful with units in the text. For instance, in Portugal, all of them were wrong. I just updated it. Hope everything's OK now. Sorry for my bad english...

[edit] Problems with Info

In the first paragraph, you say that large forest fires are caused by "drought and prevention of small fires". How is that possible? Shouldn't you stop the small fires from getting big?

The idea is that if small forest fires occur regularly, then they clean out all the fuel. If you put them out for years on end, all fuel accumulates for 20 years or more. Then when you do have a fire, it gets really huge really fast. -Lommer | ^talk 18:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

The article needs a much better explanation, something like http://www.alternet.org/story/17066/ or a link to that. --Espoo 06:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor rewording

"The risk of major wildfires can be reduced partly by a reduction of the amount of fuel present."

The bolded word read as achieved beforehand.. was that intentional or a minor mistake? Doesn't logically follow that one would want to achieve the risk of a major wildfire, much less so by reducing fuel. 124.178.193.129 16:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Taiga#fire suppression

The info at Taiga#fire suppression is rather redundant, off-topic as stated, and more fitting here. It should be merged to Wildfire#fire suppression. -- P199 18:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Some at least of it refers to the particular fire cycles fround in taiga, and should be retained there, but other parts would be better moved here - MPF 20:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, it should be merged. Prospect77 23:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree, should be merged. --Romanski 10:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The fire suppression section here is pretty long already. Could it be a separate article, with the appropriate parts from the taiga article, and maybe some more specifics about suppression in other biomes?Lisamh 16:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Merge. It stands to reason that the fire suppression section of the wildfire article is going to be pretty long; that's really the biggest thing worth talking about in terms of wildfires. It definitely strays way off topic in the taiga article. Kafziel ^Talk 21:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge. Discussion of fire suppression is almost half of the taiga overview article, which is disproportionate - the content is more specific and specialised, so fits better in Wildfire. Martin 11:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the detailed discussion on Fire Suppression from Taiga overview to "Success of fire suppression in northern forests" cross-referenced here. Content is on a slightly different theme to this article. Should they still be merged? Martin 12:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Total Land Area, Underground Fire, Conversion

Is it possible to put the percentage number of burning forest area compared to total LAND area of the country? In archipelago like Indonesia and Philippines, most of the country are sea/water, not land. There is a continous underground fire / smouldering fire (since 1997) on peat that burn without any oxygen supply deep under Kalimantan and East Sumatra forest. This fire will re-surface every dry season. Is this a new kind of forest fire?

There is something funny about France data: 300 km², 12,140 acres, I use online calculator: 300 square kilometer = 74131 acres. 12 140 acre = 49 square kilometer Which one is the correct number?

Perhaps the data should be 52140 acres === 211 square km. 0.04% of France is approx. 219 square km. Is this the correct data?

In some countries, Acres is not popular/unrecognized. Is it better to use square mile? (1 square mile=2.59 square km).

[edit] Cant understand sentence

Under "BEHAVIOR", the first sentence as printed makes no sense: When the water reserves in the soil, the soil are between 100 percent and 30percent. (Halesw 02:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC))

Neither can I - if someone knows what is trying to be said (and has a citation for any statistics introduced) feel free to add it back. Richard001 08:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wildfire simulation and modeling

Any interest, would it be better as a section here or in a separate page? A little math and lots of journal references. Jmath666 23:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biased POV

This sentence is a personal point of view:

"However, this concept has been misapplied in a "one-size-fits-all" application to other ecosystems such as California chaparral."

If there are criticisms of a government policy, we should state factually that "there are criticisms", and cite an external publication where the criticism was made. Mtford 23:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

what happened to the stuff on fire safety I added? it could save lives! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.210.156 (talk) 05:29, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics for Australia & New Zealand

I know that in Australia and New Zealand there are massive forest fires every year, however in the statistics section there are no available statistics for those countries. Does anybody have a source from which information could be added to this page?Prince.timotheus 09:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

here are a few sources:

Australian bureau of statistics (official federal govt. stats): http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/46d1bc47ac9d0c7bca256c470025ff87/ccb3f2e90ba779d3ca256dea00053977!OpenDocument

state of Victoria "public land in Victoria over the last 70 years": http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/DSE/nrenfoe.nsf/childdocs/-D79E4FB0C437E1B6CA256DA60008B9EF?open David Woodward 15:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I calculated the correct values from that source. They are as follows: "Australia (2002-2003): 212,402 km², 52,485,790 acres, i.e. 2.75% of the territory; 7 deaths." If anyone feels they would like to include it into the article feel free. Prince.timotheus 20:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origins

It would be nice to have a section on the origins of wildfires. Are they caused by lightening or are the human made fires growing out of control? I don't have any data myself though User:nielsle —Preceding comment was added at 19:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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