Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-08-29/Roll with the changes

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[edit] Vote vs Consensus

While I think Wikitruth might be overdoing the paranoia a tad, they've brought up something I'm unsure of. Is it really not a vote? If so, why do people write Keep or Delete at all? Seems like a vote... if it's not, we really should emphasize the consensus concept. In this, wouldn't the debate only end when every single person involved has changed their vote to delete? I've had some articles deleted before when I made good arguments for why they should stay around.

There is always a way to reach a stubborn person, by explaining things to them. They will no longer make the mistake, and also serve to enforce that type of informing others so the person who explains once will have in effect explained hundreds of times. So, what actually resolves the VfD/AfD? I never actually looked into it, I assume a mod or something looks at the discussion and decides? Might they be influenced by just counting the numbers? I certainly would feel the urge to count it up. Even if you ignore irrelevant or unsupported opinions, that doesn't really broach a consensus. I'd only ignore a voice if they stopped contributing to the debate. Tyciol 19:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)