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[edit] Naches Edit

There was a line about the pillar on the "Welcome to Naches" building that has been changed so that the page can be viewed on school computers with filtering systems. Lefebvres 11:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Howdy neighbors

Glad to see a Washington WikiProject, if I see anything that overlaps with WikiProject Oregon I'll be sure to add your project tag to it. Cheers! Katr67 04:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EasternWA WikiProject?

Hi; just checkin' what's up with the Eastern Washington WikiProject; is it still a "go" or is it absorbed into this one?Skookum1 20:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It's really up to the users who make use of that project. At least one guy is still adding templates to East WA talk pages, so it seems to be alive. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 13:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi ho, Solarbird here

Hi, I've been playing with the Kenmore, Washington page a lot, and also a bit with the Lake Forest Park, Washington page (expanding it out so it hasn't been so empty), so I thought I'd drop a note here and say hi. I just gave the Kenmore page a CityBox, which kind of amuses me. ^_^ I have a question tho'; I'm in school full-time, so if I join this project, does that mean I have to take on other pages? Or does it just show that I'm supportive and have a couple of pages I work on? Solarbird 03:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Woodinville wine country needs photos

Howdy! I just created this new article on Woodinville wine country and was wondering if there is anyone with some nice free photos to add to the article? AgneCheese/Wine 21:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New articles

Dear Wikipedians, a list of possible Washington-related articles found by bot is available at User:AlexNewArtBot/WashingtonSearchResult. Colchicum 15:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neighborhood detail

My city has a Neighborhoods section that didn't list myself and my 140 neighbors, so I added my neighborhood to the list with an external link to my community's homepage. Two hours later it was deleted as an "advertisement". We're not selling anything, and are part of the community, so what gives? I even went and read "what Wikipedia is Not" and other new user guides. My motivation was purely "trying to make the list accurate" as best I understood how. (End whining).

Was my post inappropriate, or was the deletion rash?

What is the most appropriate way to include more specific neighborhood information WikiProject Washington? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.16.12.79 (talk) 06:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

You might want to look around Category:Vancouver neighbourhoods - for Vancouver BC not Vancouver WA of course but maybe useful as a modelSkookum1 09:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
directories which list area businesses for a fee and list events in order to sell advertising conflict with local gov't and community-sponsored webpages. It may be called MyTownName.com but that doesn't qualify it for a listing. I remove these when I find them, and try and replace them with community owned or sponsored sites whenever possible.

[edit] Suggestion re vessels on the Columbia River

Howdy from north of the line. Around Wikipedia:WikiProject British Columbia We've had a flurry of ship articles crated lately, ie historic steamboats and other vessels of note and also e.g. List of ships in British Columbia (should be List of historic ships in British Columbia maybe), Steamboats of the Upper Fraser River in British Columbia, Steamboats of the Skeena River so far, others are planned though there are some issues as vessels moved from river to river - tose on the Skeena might also have been on the Fraser, the Stikine, Puget Sound, or more pointedly the Columbia, which brings me to the suggestion for List of vessels on the Columbia River, maybe with "historic" or some other cqualifier in there; I know for sure there's going to be an SS Umatilla article and a score of others that worked the Fraser and elsewhere which had been on the Columbia or, in some cases, the Sacramento; not that anybody at your project is writing historical-ship aritcles yet, just kinda pointing in that eneral directino; see also List of Royal Navy ships in the Pacific Northwest which I deliberatley titled so as to not be BC-specific for various historical reasons.Skookum1 08:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I used "vessels" in the proposed titles because there may be notable barges, e.g. as there are in BC's case, i.e. non-ships that were still on the water; not sure waht might be down that way but in vancouver harbour in the old days used to be Spratt's Ark, a sardine-oil processing operation that was an important landmark (and also which took in refugees from our Great Fire). So the title could be "ships" and I think the BC "steamboat" titles could be ajudsted (there were more than steamboats on both routes, for example). Whatever; it's all only just a suggestion.Skookum1 09:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

PS WPWA members might want to have a look around WPBC and WPVan to give you an idea where your whole shebang can go...(and we're rookies still....).Skookum1 09:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

"Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" for anyone who recognizes the book title; "we're always rookies at anything" as also is a paraphrsae of something Einstein and others have said in various ways.Skookum1 09:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
One of my PNW source books, "The Great Columbia Plain", has some info on the various vessels that once plied the Columbia in the US above the Snake River (before the dam building era blocked the river up pretty well). I'll try to find time to look into it! There is some interesting stuff about old steamboats braving treacherous rapids, sometimes not successfully... Pfly 09:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Most of the vessels on Okanagan, Kootenay and Arrow Lakes were broght up htat way; plus a bit of portaging here and htere, i.e. pieces being hauled up past rapids. I imagine it was the same on the "Middle Columbia" (on the fraser there were three navigable sections - Boston Bar to Lillooet (almost, more like Lytton), Alexandria to Prince George (then Fort George but this route also connects to the Stuart river route to the Omineca region) and of course the Lower Fraser. And like I said, some of those on the Lower Fraser - and possibly some of those on our Interior lakes - came from/via the States originally (well, as did nearly everything until the CPR got punched through, ecept what came around the Horn or via the Orient...Skookum1 17:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking of trying to do articles for some of the older ferries working in Puget Sound, specifically the Steel Electrics that are 80 years old now, and still running. Murderbike 07:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens FAR

1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 13:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested articles/photos

I notice a lot of projects do pages of needed articles and photos, but I can't find one here. Can we start one? Murderbike 21:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think I did what you wanted...check the main page. The Artak 08:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ach! So many questions!

I'm starting a "List of native species of Washington" article, hopefully to lead to an article on "Native species of Washington". It's in my sandbox right now, if anyone wants to help out, or lend some advice.Murderbike 08:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paterson, Washington in Benton County needs an article

Surprisingly it is a red link despite nearly every other US city in existence having a Wikipedia article. The city is undoubtedly notable for being home to the largest wine making facility in the state-Columbia Crest. I'll be happy to contribute the wine related info to article if someone who is more familiar with the construction of Washington city articles lays the foundation.AgneCheese/Wine 18:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Salish Sea" -> Puget Sound/Strait of Georgia merger

Hi. Someone just left a query about this merge, as I'd put a merge tag on Salish Sea quite a while ago and haven't followed up on it; please see my notes at Merge Salish Sea and Strait of Georgia on my talk page. I'm on the road and will be off the net again by the end of the weekend but input from WPWashington and WPBC members would be appreciated to resolve this. This notice has also been posted on Wikipedia:WikiProject British Columbia.Skookum1 02:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAR notice

Seattle, Washington has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LaraLove 17:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pending GA review of Ballard Carnegie Library

Just FYI, Ballard Carnegie Library is up for GA review, if anyone wants to take a pass at it. It's a old library building in Seattle. • Lawrence Cohen 15:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pending GA review of Joe Szwaja

Joe Szwaja is also up for GA review, if you can lend a hand. He is a Green party politician in Seattle. • Lawrence Cohen 15:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Port of Longview

Howdy neighbors--I'm working on this article created by someone apparently involved with the port authority. My question is, do y'all refer to yourself in articles as "Washington" or "Washington State"? I'm inclined to leave out "State" as redundant (one can click on "Washington" to see what is meant), but perhaps for international readership the clarification is necessary? Katr67 18:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I just always put things as Longview, Washington, USA. Murderbike 03:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
But in a stand alone reference (e.g. ...blahblahblah the coffee in Washington State is higher octane than that in Foobar...), if the context is clear that it's not, say, D.C., you'd just say "Washington" wouldn't you? Katr67 03:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Washington State is a school (especially with a capitalized "State"), just like Iowa State is a school. If there is a danger of confusing Washington and Washington DC, I'd write "the state of Washington" rather than "Washington State". Also, for what it's worth, I sometimes wikify it as "...in the U.S. state of Washington," since the U.S. state page explains what a U.S. state is, while the Washington page just says that it is one. Pfly 07:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah yes, forgive me for forgetting about WSU. I use the "U.S. state" thing even with Oregon if it's too awkward to get an "American" or "United States" in the intro somewhere. In the port article it said that "Washington State" enacted laws, so I changed it to "state of Washington", to lessen confusion with the U.S. capital, though I think it's clear from context we're talking about "Washington". Just to add to the confusion, with Oregon, I've got State of Oregon redirecting to "Government of Oregon", because that is what is usually meant when used in the fully capitalized sense. Thanks for the suggestions! Katr67 14:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cities/communities missing?

It should be one of the primary goals to cover all communities in Washington. So I'm wondering if someone knows an official list of all incorporated communities in the state so that we can check if some community is missing... --77.179.37.144 23:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Unless a community has become incorporated since the 2000 census, all incorporated cities should have bot-created articles. See User:Rambot. Katr67 00:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
so what about unincorporated communities then? Is there any way to check on them? --77.179.38.194 23:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC) PS.: and what about Indian reservations? Are they complete? --77.179.38.194 00:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm totally butting in here. I actually do most of my work for WikiProject Oregon. So my apologies. I know that Oregon has a complete list of Indian reservations but it has several redlinks. Since unincorporated communities are not "official", I don't think there is any one standard for completeness. I work with Wikipedia:U.S. cities without articles (note that a) there are no Washington ones on the list for whatever reason and b) none of the Oregon ones are actually cities), List of cities and unincorporated communities in Oregon and formerly there was a list of Zip Codes, but that got deleted. These places show hundreds of communities that still need articles and it is far from a complete inventory. There are thousands of places in Oregon that people live in, that have a name, and even Oregon Geographic Names, a three-inch thick book, doesn't list them all. Some people go with whatever is listed on an official state highway map. I hope that helps and doesn't confuse! Communities are the reason I got involved in Wikipedia, and it's a daunting project. I doubt it can ever be complete.
Here are the Washington counterparts for what I mentioned above:
Also see:
Katr67 02:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
For reference: Access Washington, Counties, Cities, and Towns and Municipal Research and Services Center of Washington Web Site. I was not able to locate an official site for unincorporated communities. ∞☼Geaugagrrl(T)/(C) 08:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] King County Journal

This article could use some help; either improvement or a merge perhaps. Thanks! --Stormbay 23:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I would like to translate pages.

Hey. My name is Johnny Russell. My email address is <removed per policy>. I am a Washington resident and I am learning Spanish with the goal of fluency. I am just offering to translate any article in this WikiProject into Spanish. My goals in offering to do translations are to improve my Spanish writing abilities and also to help out Wikipedia, which has been an extremely helpful resource for me in the past. -johnnyrussell (~~~~) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnyrussell (talk • contribs) 06:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Galena (disambiguation)

needs a little attention please. - CarbonLifeForm (talk) 10:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to Galena chain lakes. A good place to post this request is Wikipedia:WikiProject Washington/Requested Articles. Myasuda (talk) 17:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Registered Historic Places in Washington

I don't know if anyone still pays attention to this page, but the last couple months Jmabel and I have been doing tons of work getting photos for Washington listings on the NRHP, but we could certainly use some help from other people filling the list out. If anyone needs a project to work on, photos of sites, as well as getting rid of redlinks (especially in smaller towns that have very little info) would be great. Murderbike (talk) 01:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hanford site

I am working on the Hanford site article and trying to get it up to Good Article quality. Before I nominate it for GA status, I welcome feedback and/or participation from any WikiProject Washington editors. Northwest-historian (talk) 21:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I put Hanford up for Featured Article consideration last week & would welcome all reviews. The discussion is here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hanford Site. Thanks! Northwesterner1 (talk) 07:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Washington

A disagreement has arisen at Template talk:Washington about whether to include the Tri-Cities on the list of "larger cities" in the template. Argument against: Richland, Kennewick, and Pasco are legally separate cities; they are already listed under smaller cities; the "Tri-Cities" should thus be considered a region. Argument for: Culturally, the metro area of the Tri-Cities is considered a city by Washington residents, and listing it among the larger cities on the navigational template is most useful to the reader looking to find the state's largest cities. We could use some more opinions from other Washington editors... Please weigh in on the template talk page. Northwesterner1 (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Puget Sound def. re potential Juan de Fuca cat

Hi guys; this is kinda related to our other PacNW regional discussions/issues; please see Category talk:Puget Sound and help me figure it out.Skookum1 (talk) 02:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marcus, Washington and statistics

I don't want to pick on the good folks of Marcus, as this is not about that town in particular but in the way demographics are represented; Marcus is only an example, and where one of the more, if you will, absurd cases of statistical writing I've seen struck me with a certain issue; you WPWash folks have done a stunning job of writing up a huge number of your smalltown articles - I wish we in BC were able to be so thorough - and this isn't meant as a criticism, but a request for enrirchment/detail as well as no small amount of common sense. I've lived in more than one town the size of Marcus, some even smaller, so the following passage seemed really odd:

As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 117 people, 48 households, and 33 families residing in the town. The population density was 495.3 people per square mile (188.2/km²). There were 52 housing units at an average density of 220.1/sq mi (83.7/km²). The racial makeup of the town was 95.73% White, 0.85% Native American, 0.85% Asian, 0.85% from other races, and 1.71% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.56% of the population.

Hmmm. Let's see. One Native American, one Asian (which kind?), another somebody from some "other race" (note the word race...), four either Hispanic or Latino (again, which kind?) and only two people of mixed ancestry (if only mixed-race means mixed, rather than mixed ethnic, again without saying from which of the named groups/races. The ethnic makeup of the Caucasian population is entirely unaccounted for. Is the Native American local or maybe Pequod or Tsalagi? Old-stock American/local or immigrant, and from where; German, Norwegian, Irish, French all possibilites, each little town having its own makeup. The BC hydro village (we called it "camp", though it was real nice '20s-era Edwardian cottages w. gardens (part of Ruskin, British Columbia) that I was raised in had, let's see, 16 houses. One house English-English (prob some Scots or Welsh in there somewhere), the next Irish-Italian, others Scottish-English, Dutch-Danish, Anglo-Irish, three Norwegian families including mine, which also included Irish, French, one of the others Danish-Norwegian, a Danish-German ancestry couple (completely assimilated like us and the other Scandinavians), a Hungarian, and Nova Scotian and Scottish-from Scotland...another house rotated over the eyars, from German through NY Jewish through setttler-sto0ck Scots.our ethnicity? "BC Hydro" really, a tribe descended from the populations of a half a dozen company towns where most families ahd lived. Anyway other parts of Mission were of differnt stock; Silverdale and Silverhill a mix of Italin, Swedish, German, Finns and even Chinese and Native (not sure which kind), Stave Falls with Finns and Scots (what was left over after teh Hydro town broke up), Steelhead was a newspaper colony, Dutch and Hungarian and Ukrainian and Danish and more Finns and otehr Euro-exotica were found eastwards; Maple Ridge to the west was more Anglo-Saxon, other than the Katzies and Whonnocks and another Finnish community at Webster's Corners, plus the husual assimilated Scandinavians common, I'd say, thoughout the Pacific Northwest. Anyway I hope you see what I mean about the use of percentages maybe being inappropriate/absurd for such small places; and other kinds of detail might be more relevant. Are the citizens of today's Marcus in any way connected to the frontier-era Marcus-ites? Who's from where? Whcih of those "races" (ahem) is the one-quarter that's poor? And who was the namesake of the town, anyway (the name-meaning of nearby Northport's obvious enough). So not meaning to dig up a stink, only asking that maybe a more realistic and less dehumanizing way of describing small communities' populations might be just to set out hte actual numbers, and maybe the ethnic origin as opposed to the racial origin (or at least both); I did this on the demographics sectino for Abbotsford and on a few other pges, working on prince George's. But Canadian town-specific data is hard to come by; they generally only release the major metropolitan data, or major centres, not the small-town breakdowns in teh way the US census seems to make more easiliy available....in Census Canada we have to really dig to get at stats for tiny places; you guys are lucky. Anyway I think some more humanization of all the smalltown articles is more fitting than cold-fish numerical/percentage descriptions; who are these folks, what do they do, why are they tehre? Again, this isn[t just abnout Marcus, but about local/smalltown articles in general.....less sanitized-sounding if actual numbers are used, I think; I'm hoping to do this for the vanishing rural/pionee-r era settlements in the Fraser Valley/Lower Mainland, (Mission and Maple Ridge are more than their towns...)sorry for the typos, I'll clean this up after a smoke or two, and some din-din.Skookum1 (talk) 04:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Nobody actually wrote that copy--it was a bot. Feel free to add the proper figures if you have them. --Lukobe (talk) 06:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Good point, Skookum. It is especially "funny" in articles about communities with less than 100 inhabitants. The problem is that some people regard removing this information as vandalism. They insist every bit of information that can be found about certain communities is worth mentioning. In the German wikipedia we agreed to not use bots to generate stubs based on the census data. However, some people translate those parts in articles about small communities without even thinking about what might be worth translating and what not to translate. Very sad world sometimes;-) As we say in German: They "don't turn on their brain" when translating. --X-Weinzar (talk) 11:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] All Incorporated Cities in WA

Hey there just thought that the site USSPECBOOK.COM might be helpful to this project. It is a website which offers all the incorporated cities in Washington and contact information for websites,and public works infrastructure information.

Just a thought —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.3.122 (talk) 16:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)