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A&B Sound

A&B Sound, electronics retailer founded in 1959 in downtown Vancouver (Xm2631 21:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC))

Original founder, Frank Steiner operated the first store in Vancouver, and in later years opened up other stores in Victoria and at Marine Drive (South Vancouver). Eventually Hasting St., (East Vancouver) Surrey, Metrotown (Burnaby) followed and eventually branched out further east of the Greater Vancouver Area and British Columbia, Vancouver Island, Alberta, & Manitoba.

CHAN-TV

CHAN-TV, Vancouver's first privately owned television station. Presently known as Global BC (Xm2631 21:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC))

Spanish Bank

As of 2005, the official name is Spanish Bank and is no longer Spanish Banks. I've updated the wikipedia pages I could find.[1] —This unsigned comment was added by Usgnus (talk • contribs) .

Vancouver Courier article on the name change. Usgnus 19:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Erg. Another instance where officialdom is trying to lead public language/culture by the nose. What the heck was wrong with "Spanish Banks"? And who uses "Spanish Bank" other than the stylesheet of a national media monopoly's local neighbourhood gladrag?Skookum1 21:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the article is just reporting on the change and one person's reaction to it. The change is coming from the Vancouver Park Board. See the first link above. Usgnus 21:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
As long as there is a redirect from the commonyl used name, and a note in the article about the common name of the area. Spanish Banks. --Dogbreathcanada 21:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
There is no article for Spanish Bank(s) yet. Usgnus 21:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
If the consensus is to revert to Spanish Banks and include, where appropriate, a note about the official name, that works for me. Usgnus 21:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcoming new WikiProject participants

I realized that we should probably have a welcome template for new WikiProject participants, to gain some sense of community, so I created {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Vancouver/welcome}}. I wrote it up relatively quickly, so if you can think of ways to improve the template, go ahead by all means. I just want to find some way of welcoming the WikiProject's newcomers. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 05:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Gastown, Today

l.5: "It's 'Home Base' to Vancouver's most favourite son, Bryan Adams." favourite or famous??? --217.191.228.232 12:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Favourite to Bruce Allen, no doubt, who he made lots of money for. But not Vancouver's most famous son; that's very debatable (he's from North Van, and Michael J. Fox from Burnaby is "up there"; then there's Raymond Burr, but of course he's from New West). But in general the use of superlatives ("most favourite") doesn't seem like a good idea, unless "certified". And who's "most famous"? Depends on how old you are, what kind of music/film/books you like, how much of a camp-follower/fan you are.
And besides, it's not like Bryan is part of the street/social world of Gastown - yuppies or streetoids. Bruce Allen Talent is located in the old BCER building - strictly speaking not part of historic Gastown although that area of Hastings has been subsumed into it by the media's attempt to avoid the "Downtown Eastside" (a switch which gets the ire of the Gastown BIA) - and the studio at Powell and Columbia doesn't even have a storefront or sign on it. Now, if it had become the brew pub that Adams had wanted to turn it into, it would be high-profile and we could say that Bryan Adams was part of Gastown. Which is also "home base" to one hell of a lot of other entertainment industry people, too. Come to think of it, if we're including the offices in the BCER building, then on the one hand you've got Casting Workbook, which is a lynchpin of the film/TV industry, and also a number of "world-famous" (or is that "world-class?") internet pornography production companies.Skookum1 14:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I changed the paragraph. Too much about one music studio in a relatively short article on Gastown. Readers can follow the link to find out more about The Warehouse Studio. Usgnus 17:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Islands

I disagree about adding British Columbia to every new island by default. If you look at List of islands of Canada, you'll see that very few islands list the province or other disambiguation name. See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places). Usgnus 23:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Another way to look at it is to consider islands as geographical entities, like rivers or mountains. Would we say Thompson River, British Columbia or Mount Robson, British Columbia? Then why would we say Barnston Island, British Columbia instead of just Barnston Island? Usgnus 23:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking more along the lines of avoiding future disambig. links. Sea Island is a prime example of such a situation I wish to avoid. Or maybe I'm going overboard here... Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 08:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I say we deal with them when they come up. deadkid_dk 08:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Let's not change any existing article (unless necessary), but how about for new ones we add the "British Columbia" if needed only. Many times, there's either only one island of that name, or one island is much more significant than the other (e.g., Bowen Island). Usgnus 20:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


Bloedel Floral Conservatory additions

Copyright addition to article by Wayne Ray 1991 WayneRay 22:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

Also added additional in formation (edit asap) for the Van Dusen Botanical Garden. Roy Forster was my horticultural professor at Niagara Hort College in St. Catharines Ontario 1970-1972 before he moved to BC.

This is the article I had written and published several years ago that I edited into the original wiki article.

VANDUSEN DISPLAY GARDEN 5251 Oak Street Vancouver B.C. V6M 4H1 phone 604-266-7194

VanDusen Botanical Display Garden is located in the Shaughnessy district of Vancouver at the North West corner of 37th and Oak Street. The garden is open to the public every day of the year except Christmas. There are admission fees. In 1970 the Vancouver Foundation, the Government of British Columbia and the city of Vancouver signed an agreement to develop a public garden on part of the old Shaughnessy Golf Course. On August 30th, 1975, the garden was officially opened. The garden covers an area of some 55 acres. An early decision not to partake in scientific research enabled the channelling of funds and energy into garden construction and released the staff from the responsibility of building research collections or a herbarium. However, there is a specialized reference library in the Administration Floral Hall Building. The garden has several special attractions, including carved totem poles, large stone sculptures and a Korean Pavilion whose architecture is the focus for the Asian plant collection. Horticulturally, there is a large collection of Rhododendron hybrids, cultivars of Fagus sylvatica as well as collections of Sorbus, Fraxinus and Magnolia. There is a Heather garden and a major collection of Ilex acquifolium cultivars. The garden is designed to be used by people of all ages and backgrounds. Many of the plant collections are labelled and arranged to demonstrate botanical relationships or geographical origins. There are guided tours, lectures and workshops available.

 WayneRay 15:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)WayneRay

Government and politics of Vancouver

I have some issues with this page, Government and politics of Vancouver that I have outlined in the talk page. What do others think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Geedubber (talk • contribs) .

Hon's Wun-Tun House

I'm thinking of starting an article about the Hon's restaurant chain, but I'm not sure if it's notable enough or not. Do you guys think it's enough to merit its own article? (I remember the Province newspaper had a big article on Hon's and the history of the chain -- I'm trying to dig it up.) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 07:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Support I think so. deadkid_dk 07:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Update: I'm having trouble finding an official site (or something like it), except for their Robson location. Darn. And I can't find the Province article. The Richmond Hon's has a copy on their window; maybe I'll take my digital camera and take a photo of it instead. Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 07:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm concerned that it won't meet notability criteria, similar to the battle going on about the EUS article. Andrewjuren(talk) 08:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I thought about that too. While it doesn't seem to have an official site for the chain, it pops up a gazillion Google hits and has won a lot of awards (mostly from lifestyle newspapers and tourism departments). I remember there's a bit of history behind the chain, but you're right, it might not meet the notability criteria regardless. However, there's no denying the significance of Hon's in the Asian restaurant industry in Greater Vancouver. Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 08:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I support an article for Hon's - it is definitely a Vancouver institution. Anything that is prominently featured in more than one piece of Vanlit is a good candidate for an article. -Madeleine (not logged in)

We really need an article for Hons. Its everywhere. Canadianshoper 23:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ironically, I ate lunch there today, at the Richmond location. :) I can't seem to find the Hon's article from The Province but the Richmond branch has it on display on their window -- I'll take a photo of it the next time I stop in the Golden Village. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 00:33, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I disagree; unless we do articles for the now-defunct Dragon Inn chain, Dog'n'Suds, and any number of other chains including Blenz nad Mongolian Barbeque, all of which (to me, and I've lived here a hell of a long time) are Vancouver institutions. Hon's is popular because of the glad-handing press it gets, but to me that speaks to unimaginative restaurant reviews in the Straight and people's unwillingness to try other Chinese restaurants (such as Ho Tak Kee, a block away on Broadway near Hon's Quebec & Bway location). Then there's the On Lok, the Yuen Lock and the Pink Pearl; all Vancouver institutions but limited to one location only; does their not having a chain disqualify them from getting an article?Skookum1 17:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Had a quick look back up the list; seems like foodfair locations are somehow "institutions". So why not Tojo teriyaki-fry or any other popular Asian fastfood chain, all of which were launched here and thrive here? Hon's isn't special; its fans think it is, but.....Skookum1 17:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I think most of you folks aren't aware of the background of this noodle house. Dig a bit deeper and you will find some really interesting tidbits (pun intended) about Hons. Check the history of the owner and untangle the messy and lengthy trail... 30 years ago the CBC did a documentary on them (the five dragons) as did the Vancouver Sun in 2005, when the families settled a multi-million dollar lawsuit brought on by our Canadian government.

Heck ... the Kennedys and the Rogers family made their fortunes in a similar fashion.

I hope to contribute to this article...but currently, I'm just so bogged down. Flytrap canada 20:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

:Heck ... the Kennedys and the Rogers family made their fortunes in a similar fashion.

What, you mean they were bootlegging and refining sugar? Bobanny 20:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

"The next station is..." templates

This ongoing discussion and development of the transit station template has been moved here to reduce the growing size of the main talk page. --Ckatz 23:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

COTM for May

Since it's the 27th of the month, I've updated the COTM template for May. The new COTM is Vancouver Art Gallery. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 20:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)