Wikipedia talk:WikiProject University of Texas at Austin

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[edit] Starting out

jareha, thanks for starting this up! Johntex\talk 22:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

LOL, you beat me to it. Oh well, not like you have anything to do with this being your last semester and all. Thanks. — Scm83x talk 09:25, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

The list has nominate at FAC. I've noticed a few others get forwarded to Wikipedia:Peer review. Perhaps it should go there first? --Christopherlin 18:25, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not positive since I didn't add that, but since this project is brand new, and since the the "to-do" box is pretty much empty, I think that action item is more of a place-holder than anything. I agree sending to "peer review" is a good strategy. Not doing so would probably generate some "oppose" votes at FAC just for not having been sent to peer review first. Johntex\talk 19:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Johntex is correct — I used boilerplate to create the to-do list. I've modified it per the comments in this discussion. jareha (comments) 22:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of Texas at Austin presidents

I added all of the University of Texas at Austin presidents to the todo list. Most of the middle names should be removed when creating the actual articles and instead the full names should be created as redirects. As these are created, be sure to add them to List of University of Texas at Austin people. — Scm83x talk 11:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

  • List taken from here, which also includes years of service and any degrees they may have held. — Scm83x talk 11:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cool idea...

...but oy, the Blanton. Bad memories of Tony Sanchez. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 21:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't aware of Blanton/Tony Sanchez issues, but UT Watch gave me a basic rundown at Sanchez' regent page there. Oh, and self-disgust for voting for him in 2002. I also found a detailed account of the controversy at Grammar.police.
I'd noticed that the buildings erected around campus recently are rather boring, but never put much thought to the fact that the campus master plan stifles creativity. Obvious connection, not sure how I missed it. As for the Blanton in particular? It looks like it wants to be symmetrical, which is more annoying than if it were not even close to being so. jareha (comments) 21:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Yup, that pretty much hits the highlights. I was at the Texan during that whole fiasco. As for Sanchez, he was always perfectly nice to me ... maybe a little too nice, ahem. I was always partial to Patrick Oxford and Charles Miller (though I did once see him in his boxers, not pretty). · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 22:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idea for later

Hello, once we get underway a bit - we may want to start a cross-project collaboration. I am thinking of something like getting people from another portal (Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities perhaps?) or another community (people editing at ou or a&m articles maybe?) to come over and judge which UT-related articles are good enough to be labeled "good". It is a little tough since we are the first Portal around a single University. Another option would be to do it ourselves, preferably with the primary author for any given page avoiding taking a role in reviewing that page. Johntex\talk 01:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{User longhorn}}

For those using the UT userbox, please take note that I added some new features to the box. Now it is possible to specify whether you attend or attended UT, instead of the previous ambiguity. You can see the information at Template talk:User longhorn. — Scm83x hook 'em 05:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! jareha (comments) 15:28, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Very cool. I wonder if we should also make a variant for people who sign up for the WikiProject, but who may not themselves by Longhorns? Johntex\talk 16:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jorge Luis Borges?

Was a visiting professor for a year; but don't you think this is stretching the project a little thin? Septentrionalis 20:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe so, I'm not sure. I added him to the project based upon the following paragraph:

Borges's international fame dates approximately from the early 1960s. In 1961, he received the Formentor Prize, which he shared with Samuel Beckett. Because Beckett was well-known and respected in the English-speaking world, where Borges at this time remained unknown and untranslated, English-speakers became curious about who the person was who shared the prize with him. The Italian government named him Commendatore; and the University of Texas at Austin appointed him for one year to the Tinker chair. This led to his first lecture tour of the United States. The first translations of his work into English were to follow in 1962, with lecture tours of Europe and the Andean region of South America in subsequent years. In 1965, Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom appointed him O.B.E.. Dozens of other honors were to accumulate over the years, such as the French Legion of Honour in 1983, or the Cervantes Prize.

I've removed the project tag from his Talk page for now. I think the paragraph implies that the time he was at UT led to other things, but I may be reading too much into that. Other views? Johntex\talk 22:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional categories

I am currently going through hundreds of articles that link to University of Texas at Austin and I'm adding {{UTTalk}} to any that have a strong association with The University. (For one disputed case, please see above.) I am also trying to add a category tag, if appropriate. This has made me realize that we need some additional categories. Here are a couple that I think would be useful. Please feel free to add to the list, comment, suggest new names, etc.

  1. Category:Discoveries and inventions of the University of Texas at Austin
  2. Category:Faculty and employees of the University of Texas at Austin

Johntex\talk 04:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Good timing. Earlier today, I requested an opinion on a category similar to your second suggestion. Thoughts:
  • Is there a naming precedent for category one? Around how many articles would such a category have?
  • My suggestion for the second would be the creation of two categories: Category:University of Texas at Austin faculty and Category:University of Texas at Austin staff. That way, we'd follow the naming conventions of Category:People by university in the United States.
jareha (comments) 04:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the first (inventions), I'm aware of no precedent, but I've not looked into it. So far today, I've encountered two articles that would definitely fit this category: Texaphyrin and Orexin. I've also seen a few other discoveries mentioned in the article about their discoverer, but the discoveries do not themselves seem to have articles. At the moment, I can remember that two of them were galaxies.
Regarding the second, that nomenclature looks fine to me. What about criteria for being tagged as faculty or staff? People move around. Is a one-year visiting professorship enough (see above section)? Johntex\talk 05:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
For only a few discovery or invention articles, it's probably not worth it to create a specific category. As for criteria for faculty and staff, I'll think about this and might have thoughts tomorrow. jareha (comments) 06:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
It's only a few now, so for now we can just dump them into Category:University of Texas at Austin. Evenually, I'm sure we need a category. There have been hundreds of important discoveries at UT. Probably dozens of them already have articles here - they just haven't been found yet. I think I've already doubled the number of articles associated with this project today, just by working back from what links to University of Texas at Austin. I have no idea how many more articles there are to go - I just keep hitting the "Next 50 articles button". No rush for the new "discoveries" category - when we really need it, we can create it. Johntex\talk 06:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
We could combine faculty and staff into Category:University of Texas at Austin faculty and staff? (I'm still not sure about the time determinate for faculty — is there a precedent for this? We probably need an outside opinion here.) jareha (comments) 15:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slight rescope

As a non-Texican, pardon me horning in briefly. Would it make sense to rescope this to the University of Texas in general? That would make for a shorter name, at least, and somewhat clarify the scope of the {{UTexas-stub}} template. Just a thought... Alai 04:06, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I prefer focusing this WikiProject on that which I have the most familiarity: The University of Texas at Austin. There's room for a WikiProject:University of Texas, though, and I'd do my best to support such a venture.
Oh, and it's "non-Texan", by the way. :) jareha (comments) 15:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming convention

Has any thought gone into the naming convention? Specifically, I believe we should use the preferred "The University of Texas at Austin" rather than "University of Texas at Austin" per the university's style guide. - ChrisKennedy 05:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

With regards to the title of University of Texas at Austin, this WikiProject or both? jareha (comments) 14:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Both. I am concerned more with the actual entries but I think this project should also use that style. - ChrisKennedy 16:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
There's been discussion about this far before I came to Wikipedia, but the convention that's currently in use is described at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name)#Universities. The rationale behind this usage of articles can be found in the third bullet point at the top of that page. However, we still refer to the university using a capitalized "The" within the text of articles; i.e., bolding The University of Texas at Austin in the lead of the main UT page. — Rebelguys2 talk 18:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
You edit conflicted me, Rebelguys2! :) jareha (comments) 18:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I win. ;) — Rebelguys2 talk 18:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
It gives the following convention: "If the name of the article is the title of a work, an official name, or another proper name then do or do not include "the", "a" or "an" in the name, according to the following rule of thumb." followed by this rule of thumb: "If the definite or indefinite article article would be capitalized in running text, then include it at the beginning of the page name," which is the case for The University of Texas at Austin. The Universities section gives no reason for the divergence from the convention and rule of thumb stated at the beginning of the entry and should not be followed. - ChrisKennedy 02:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I have always felt that the portion of the policy ChrisKennedy cites should over-ride the other part of the policy. I've never felt it was worth making a big deal over. I usually write [[University of Texas at Austin|The University of Texas at Austin]] when I make a link. I do this to avoid thinking someone needs to dab [[University of Texas at Austin]]. I would support a proposal to move the article to The University of Texas at Austin. Let's just get it blessed offically so that we don't have to redo the work. I think the best way to do that would be to propose a clarification to the guideline first, then act on it if we achieve consensus. Johntex\talk 04:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, that sounds like a fair suggestion. As a newcomer to the WP scene I don't really know how to get such a change blessed officially. Thoughts? ChrisKennedy 05:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I would suggest that we create a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(definite_and_indefinite_articles_at_beginning_of_name). Since Wikipedia prefers discussion instead of voting - we begin by stating the rational for using the official name. We discuss any points raised by others. Depending on how the conversation goes, we may want to hold a poll to gauge whether we have consensus. If so, then we edit the actual guideline to reflect the consensus. Finally, we act under the new consensus. Johntex\talk 05:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
That sounds good - I am currently participating in a small discussion on the subject there actually: Naming convention of Universities. -- ChrisKennedy 05:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Texas

Some articles covered by this WikiProject lack photographs. As part of a subcategorization of the requested photos category, there is now a category for Texas articles needing photos - to use it, just add {{reqphotoin|Texas}} to the article's talk page. I have only added a few articles to the category so far, but it would be an easy way to make an extensive list California-related articles lacking photos. I hope you find it useful! TheGrappler 05:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opening Soon

Texas Portal

Joe I 02:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Tate

I draw your attention to the article on John Tate and the request for an article on the Kozel-Tate Derivation, it's been a long standing request. The latter is not mentioned in the John Tate article, should it? Any chance someone could clear the matter up? -- Tompsci 23:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{UTexas-stub}}

I realize there's no point in re-SFDing this, as y'all'll (I believe that's the correct term) just vote "keep no matter what" like last time, but can you please exercise some restraint in the use of this tag? Using on ex-UT students, where that's unrelated to their primary notability, is really not appropriate. That's what permanent categories are for, not stub types. If you're just looking for a way to track the Wikiproject's articles, please use either a list, or a talk-page template and associated category. Alai 19:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kris Clack up for deletion

In case anyone was interested... Zagalejo 22:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2004 Texas Longhorn football season

Hello, VYfan created a new article on 2004 Texas Longhorn football team. I expanded the article a bit using content from Mack Brown and Vince Young. If anyone happens to have a photo taken during the 2004-05 season, it would be great if you could upload it and add it to the article. By the way, for any of you who are also football fans, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject College football and the relatively new 2006 Texas Longhorn football team. Johntex\talk 01:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


Don't delete Kris

[edit] University of Texas at Austin at Wikiquote

Hello, I started an article at Wikiquote about UT. The article is currently being considered for deletion. If you have additioanl quotes that should be added, please make them to the article. If you have a wikiquote login and wish to participate in the deletion discussion, it is here. Note that deletion discussions are not votes, so please be prepared to discuss and not simply vote an opinion. Johntex\talk 02:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] College football fans check this out

2005 NCAA Division I-A football rankings - a tremendous accomplish, in my opinion. I hasten to add that I had nothing to do with it. Johntex\talk 02:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project expansion

why not increase the scope of the project to include all UT system schools? the websites for the other UT system schools are woefully undeveloped.Locriani 17:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

We did discuss this briefly (above). The general feeling was that the first people who joined were more interested in the Austin campus and didn't know much about the other campuses. Branching out has merits, but so too does focus. We still have tons of topics related to UT Austin that need improvement. We also have a WikiProject:Texas that can work on all UT campuses as well as all other Texas related topics. Many of us do contribute to that project as well. Johntex\talk 06:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination

2005 Texas Longhorn football team has been nominated for deletion. Please join in the discussion if you wish. Johntex\talk 01:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vince Young

Vince Young has lost good article status. Please help us improve the article back to GA status. Johntex\talk 05:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Billy Disch

Our first great baseball coach now has a stub. If you can find more information, please expand. Mishatx 17:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested merge of World's Largest Texas Flag and Texas State Flag

A new article has been created, World's Largest Texas Flag. There is a question of whether this new article should be merged into Texas State Flag. If you wish to contribute to the conversation, please see Talk:World's Largest Texas Flag. Johntex\talk 03:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DKR

Can someone get us some pictures of the north end-zone demolition and construction, please? Johntex\talk 17:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey John, it's exam time. I'll try and swing by there sometime this week when I find an extra moment. My camera isn't all that great though... we'll see if I can borrow one. — Scm83x hook 'em 18:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Enoch Lai came through for us with Image:DKR expansion06.jpg. Thnak you Enoch! It would be great to add more as the construction phase begins. Johntex\talk 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
No prob guys, I do tech support for Kineseology in Bellmont so I go there at least once a month, I'll make sure to get some more pictures when they start the structure. Any other photo requests? Enoch Lai 20:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 23:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Review

Hello, I am getting ready to propose 2005 Texas Longhorn football team for consideration as a featured article. The article has had one reveiw already and I believe all issues raised there have been addressed. I have also used the semi-automated review script to look for small things that need to be changed. The article is meticulously referenced with 121 in-line sources. It contains both free-use images and appropriate fair-use images. It attempts to follow the standards set out by the relevant wiki projects.

In watching the nomintaion of the OU football program, I see that the OU article has received some objections on the grounds of supposedly being overly positive and for listing too-many awards. I have reviewed the 2006 UT article in light of those objections and I am prepared to argue that every positive thing said is relevant and attributed to a specific source. As for the awards and accomplishments, I think all the ones listed in the UT article are notable and justifiable, but I'd like to get more feedback from other editors so I invite you to review the article if you please. Johntex\talk 09:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Our rivals are gaining on us

Please excuse the partisan nature of this message, but some POV is allowed on Talk pages every once in a while. Folks, I hate to break the news, but our rivals are gaining on us. A handful of aggies are making a go at documenting every single aggie tradition. Of course, they have so many that it will take them a while, but still. Meanwhile some people up North of the Red River are cleaning up University of Oklahoma in preperation for proposing as FA.

Our main article, University of Texas at Austin is already GA. I think we can push it to FA standards.

We have some examples of education-related FA articles at Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Education. Most similar would be probably Cornell University, Duke University and University of Michigan. I'd like to see if we can get there "Sooner" than our rivals.

Who's up for it? Johntex\talk 06:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thankfully, my rival is nowhere near a GA, much less a FA. Although if they were, it'd be a nice impetus for my project's members :p —Disavian (talk/contribs) 03:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The Aggies have 2 FA's now!!!! The tamu article and that band of theirs! Johntex\talk 21:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New article

2005 Texas vs. Ohio State football game was created today and could use a review, please. Johntex\talk 09:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Game recaps

I dont see the need why there are recaps for individual football games. Isnt that already there at most media websites (espn.com/sportsline.com etc)? Corpx 19:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, it partially depends on what you want to know. I would challenge anyone to find a media website whose coverage of 2005 Texas vs. Ohio State football game is anywhere near as good as ours. The Wikipedia article combines information from many different media sources. They are all listed if people want to go and learn more. The very format of the Wikipedia article is better for the reader since we have wikilinks to dozens of related topics. There is also the benefit of free (GFDL or CC) photos that we provide in some such articles. There is the Wikipedia category system... In short, a well written Wikipedia article can be far more informative than a media story. Johntex\talk 00:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
    • The main meat of the article, the game recap, is basically the play-by-play from the boxscore page, just rehashed. The rest of the info could be found at the 05 season articles for the respective teams. I read through the AFD nomination and I agree with some of the points that were brought up. This article just seems like a game recap from a sports-media site, except this will be archived better compared to its couterparts at espn/cbs. I think an encyclopedia shouldnt be doing something that's done by media, which is to publish current events. Corpx 05:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I would not agree that the game recap is the main meat of the article. To me, the main meat is having in one place information about the lead-in to the game, the game itself, the aftermath, etc. I do appreciate where you are coming from, however. I think it is a good point that we need to make sure we are offering a unique value. Johntex\talk 15:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UT Austin Template

Kinda like the one the Aggies have here ? I'd love to make one, but I dont really know how. Corpx 19:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks great! Good job! Corpx 04:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I like it, but it's a tad too big and lists too many things; try sticking to pre-existing articles. I am particularly fond of my college's box, {{Georgia Tech Navbox}}. Try reformatting it using that. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Ooh, the Georgia Tech box is pretty. That's for sure. I tweaked the UT box to make it a bit smaller through a better arrangement of the items. I have to run right now, I will work on it more later if no one else beats me to it. Johntex\talk 15:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lonestar Showdown

Howdy . . . fellow . . . people . . . Texans.. . . This is a joint WP:TAMU page and ut wikiproject question? How are we going to define our rivalry? Will the Lonestar Showdown be the official University of Texas / Texas A&M University rivalry page. Our is the lonestar showdown only a part of the larger rivalry, Thus the need for a new page for the rivalry? what do you think? Thanks and Gig em. Oldag07 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

discuss link to a&m wikiproject talk page Oldag07 05:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] hook em sign

My version
My version

Howdy fellow tsips. when working on our thumbs up sign, i realized with slight modifications, i could also create a hookem sign. I feel my version is a good alternative to your current version.

Current version
Current version

I can save my version as a svg if you would like. I hope you enjoy it. Oldag07 04:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Is the existing one supposed to be a foam finger look-alike? I think the real one is closer to the one Oldag07 posted, except I think both the open fingers should be coming off at the same angle. Corpx 06:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the new graphic! I don't have a very strong opinion, I like them both. The original one seems a little more formal while the newer one seems a little more "casual". Johntex\talk 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
      • It is your school. do with it what you want. Oldag07 21:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
        • I like OldAg07's version Corpx 01:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFD on UT item

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plan II Honors Corpx 17:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that it is deleted, should we merge all the content into a new article? Corpx 14:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I asked the closing admin to userfy these

Corpx 06:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA Nom

I have nominated 2005 Texas Longhorn football team as a featured article candidate. All feedback is very welcome. Johntex\talk 23:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

  • This article was promoted, so we now have our first featured article! Johntex\talk 05:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion discussion

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Texas vs. Texas A&M football game - Johntex\talk 16:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • This article was kept. Johntex\talk 05:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

I am going to work on your userbox. I understand if you change it back. --Playstationdude 23:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Finished. I hope you guys like it.--Playstationdude 23:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
As the University's colors are burnt orange and white, it seems strange that the userbox would feature black and yellow as primary colors. I'm going to revert the changes. jareha (comments) 02:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I like the current orange & white too Corpx 02:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry. I was sure it was black and burnt orange when I edited it.--Playstationdude 12:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for the effort! Johntex\talk 13:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Chapter proposal: Wikimedia Texas

I wonder if anyone is interested in creating a Wikimedia chapter serving the state of Texas. See: meta:Talk:Wikimedia_chapters#Chapter_proposal_-_Wikimedia_Texas WhisperToMe (talk) 23:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need to get a photograph of Eric Pianka

Could anyone here obtain a photograph of Professor Pianka for his article? The current picture will be deleted shortly because it is fair use of a living person, so we need a replacement. Richard001 (talk) 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)