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[edit] Improving the To Do list
I know you asked me if there is anything in the list I can pick up. I fear the answer is that, currently, there is nothing within my knowledge or skillset. I have a suggestion, albeit a trivial one. Look at {{todo}} and consider using it for the to do list. It's easy to implement, but I didn't attempt it because I wanted you to have a look first. Fiddle Faddle 14:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The archives
I've just made some trivial enhancements to the archive pages to add the archive navbar. This has meant pre-creation of the next archive page. Fiddle Faddle 10:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is fine. It looks better already! Bluegoblin7 10:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External resource
As many of you probably know, I manage Train Spotting World, where trams feature within the wiki. The resource offers things not available on WP, such as google maps, videos, etc. This project is welcome to use TSW as a resource when such items are required. I'm specifically not adding it myself to the project page. That is up to decisions from the project team as a while. Fiddle Faddle 10:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- I have addded it to Useful Sources! Is it possible to make a WikiProject-esque type thing on TSW? You know, so we can keep videos, maps etc together? Bluegoblin7 11:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clyde Fastlink
Do you think that Clyde Fastlink would fall into the scope here? I know it is (going to be) a segregated bus service but it as an interim for proposed light rail in Glasgow. Simply south (talk) 15:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A new wiki specially for Trains... And Trams/Streetcars etc...
Hello readers of WikiProject UK Trams!
I just wondered if any of you would be interested in joining up to Train Spotting World, a wiki just for railways and similar things, including Trams, which may be split into a new wiki - Tram Spotting World!!! We are also in the process of setting up several "Workforces", similar to WikiProjects, and were wondering if anyone wnated to help!
Various Wikipedians have gone over there, including myself, User:Tbo157, User:Slambo, User:EdJogg, User:Timtrent and User:S.C.Ruffeyfan.
If you want more info, or have joined up and want some guidance, let me know here or there on my talk page!
Thanks,
Bluegoblin7 18:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Just wanted to point out that the intention is NOT to 'poach' editors from WP -- you are needed here!
All the listed editors are still active at WP, but TSW allows a little more creative freedom...
Feel free to join us editing in both Wikis.
EdJogg (talk) 02:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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- As the guy who set it up, I see it as a colleague wiki and a resource for adding things that are unacceptable on Wikipedia. Poaching editors would be wrong. We hope one day that we will be proposed for an interwiki link. WP is an encyclopaedia. Train Spotting World is very much more "fan oriented", thus the two are siblings, not rivals. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template:UK light rail
I have put this up for merge with Template:Britishmetros. See Template talk:UK light rail#Merge. Simply south (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Historic tramways - any conventions?
Is there any form of consensus with regards to the naming of articles based on historic tramways? I'd like to start some articles about defunct tram systems in and around Lancashire, but I note certain inconsistencies on article name/title based on pre-existing articles, e.g. Sheffield Tramway is so named because it refers to both the private Sheffield Tramways Company and the municipal Sheffield Corporation Tramways; Ilkeston Corporation Tramways is named after the municipal operator; Doncaster Tramway was operated by Doncaster Corporation Tramways but isn't named after it; Bristol Tramways seems to be named after the company rather than being a proper noun. Which is preferable? It seems to me that 'Xyz Tramway' would be the best generic article name for a tramway based on the town of Xyz, regardless of the name of the operator, but this implies that if there was more than one company responsible for operating the system then they should not have seperate articles as Nottingham and District Tramways Company Limited and Nottingham Corporation Tramways seem to have.
Also of note is that articles look better with the inclusion of Template:Infobox rail at the top, along with a system map. Not really made any graphics for Wikipedia before, but am willing to give it a go! Divy (talk) 17:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hello,
- The easiest thing is to name them as generally as possible if they are short and stubby, and if they are quite large, split them to the companies.
- We are working on infoboxes, specifically for Trams, as the rail one is primarily for Trains.
- What images were you thinking of?
- Thanks,
- Bluegoblin7 17:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Network diagrams mainly, as on Doncaster Tramway for example. Divy (talk) 17:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. Feel free to make them! An alternative for short lines is to either list the stops (as in Sheffield Supertram), or create a line map using BSicons (as in National Tramway Museum).
- Thanks,
- Bluegoblin7 18:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Network diagrams mainly, as on Doncaster Tramway for example. Divy (talk) 17:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- (reindent - responding to original Q)
- I would suggest that the general WP policy should be used. For instance, was 'Doncaster Tramway' ever known by this title? It would seem not from the article, and I would suggest it should be moved to Doncaster Corporation Tramways instead. However, where no other title is more appropriate, "Xyz tramways" would be appropriate -- careful with the capitalisation though, only use 'Tramways' where this was a name actually used.
- EdJogg (talk) 13:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] DYKs
Do you not have a DYK section on your portal? Just had a tramways related DYK today! Mjroots (talk) 10:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tagging
Should all tram articles also be tagged with WP:Trains and WP:UKRailways as well as the WP:UKTrams tag? Mjroots (talk) 10:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you consider it from a hierarchial viewpoint, then it becomes clearer(ish). "Train" includes most of what you might call rail vehicles employing "steel-wheel on steel-rail". Therefore a tram is a subset of the group train. The subset "trains" should therefore include all forms of such transport in the UK. Now a "railway" is all forms of guided transport, which also includes trams. So I would have to say that the answer to your question is "yes, yes". It all comes back to how you classify things ... which can be a very nasty can of worms. Olana North (talk) 11:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Move
I have put up Edinburgh tram network for WP:RM but have listed possible alternaive names as it is had to determine which is the official name. Simply south (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
