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[edit] Massachusetts versus Maine state route shields

In my travels while trying to help fix New England roads, I noticed that the Massachusetts and Maine shields are the same, which needs to be fixed. In Maine, they either use the double bordered square style (which is scarce), or the borderless shield. The Massachusetts one is single bordered... I guess either no one noticed before, or it is a job to fix each SVG file. Just a notification!

Take a look here for the pictures:

http://www.roadgeek.org/nhroads/nhends/ME113/

Monsieurdl ^{mon talk-mon contribs} 12:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a better picture, I only saw the two pictures toward the bottom of that page that have a picure of the shield and you can't really tell what it looks like since they are off in the distance a bit. --Holderca1 ^talk 13:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately I do not... I haven't been to Maine in a long while, so there is a possibility that they might have changed again. Monsieurdl ^{mon talk-mon contribs} 22:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

There may be some clearer pictures here. --Polaron | Talk 00:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Judging from that link, I'd say Maine shields look "single-bordered" to me... that is, virtually identical to Mass shields. -- Kéiryn ^talk 14:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree, here is a nice closeup photo: [1]. --Holderca1 ^talk 14:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:I-135.svg and Image:Interstate 135.svg

Is it necessary to have both? I found the second doing a Kansas article (before changing it to the Kansas shield), and it seems superfluous if we have the first. DandyDan2007 (talk) 11:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The first is using the new naming conventions of the shields, the second is the depreciated naming convention for Interstate shields. I haven't been fully up to date on anything lately, but from what I know the Commons won't delete the superfluous shields. Just use the "I-xx.svg" shields. --MPD ^{T / C} 17:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think Image:Interstate 135.svg is more true to the MUTCD. I could have sworn reading that INTERSTATE was supposed to be in Series E on 3-digit shields...—Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 18:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Whether it's more true to the MUTC is irrelevant since all other Interstate shields are "I-xxx.svg". If it is the case however that the second example is more correct, then the first example should be updated with the file of the second example as a new version. I couldn't find anything in the MUTCD on it. They use the Series E, but it's not diagrammed out, just on a few examples of signage in relation to interchanges. However in 99% of all my pictures of Interstate markers, they use (Series C?) the thinner one. --MPD ^{T / C} 18:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Louisiana shields

Just so everyone's aware, it looks like Louisiana has switched to white on black shields. See [2][3]. -- Kéiryn (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I've heard this but I think we should double-check with LaDOTD to confirm this is an official change and not just a contractor error. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 21:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The first link is an m.t.r thread with someone who already has, and there's a second thread on mtr containing the same thing as well. Not a reliable source of course, but I'm pretty sure this is real. -- Kéiryn (talk) 03:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Good enough for me. We should probably begin switching over. Anyone can do it; just make the green parts white and the white parts black, delete the border, and it should be about the same. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 04:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, doesn't seem like the specs could be too shockingly different. Should we keep the old ones and upload new ones at a new naming convention (à la South Carolina)? -- Kéiryn (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The only bad thing about that is that it would require AWB runs to swap over to the new images. However, that would mean the old shields are still available for use on decommed hwys. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 21:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I can do the AWB run, and any pages using {{jct}} won't even need that. --NE2 21:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)