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[edit] Template

Hi, Eisenhower, can you make a template for this project?Ray-Ray 01:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Presidents only?

Hi, just found this page from the Community Portal. From the page, it appears that this project is about American presidents. If this is so, I'd suggest that you move this to Wikipedia:WikiProject American Presidents or something similar. Good luck! —MiraLuka 03:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I came here to say much the same. WP:CSB may not be happy! --Midnighttonight 05:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I'd second that. The name is inappropriate this way. → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 10:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll make it about other Presidents to then. Nevermind, how do you change the name of your project?Ray-Ray 15:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it to US Presidents. Also, are we sure the adopt-an-article thing is a good idea? People aren't going to be around full time, so putting teams to work in such timescales may not actually work. Perhaps best to have various articles to choose from, so that people with knowledge on one subject can add to their specialism. Also, as many of the articles have a lot of information already, it might be that the articles need more editing than expansion... ConDemTalk 17:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I like it though...Ray-Ray 19:21, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] for Eisenhower...

Would you like to be in my group for the A.A.A.? (Adopt-A-Article)

Sure. But people who supports deletion herehere I DO NOT want to work with. General Eisenhower • (at war or at peace) 21:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collaborations

I think the collaborations need to be changed - with the exception of Grant and Johnson, they are all already featured articles, and so any improvement we could make would be extremely minor. ConDemTalk 23:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

ok, I will!Ray-Ray 23:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

What is going on? This project is about US Presidents, not Spanish monarchs or musicals. ConDemTalk 23:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

sorry, can you help me find some good articles? but george washington has to stay!Ray-Ray 23:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't do much at the moments, because I'm meant to be revising for my exams. But if you want this project to go places, find some US President articles that are in need of improvement. Take a look at them, and if they already seem really good, there's not much point. Unfortunately, I think most of them are already quite extensive, but some of the really minor presidents could use some work - how about adding them to the list? ConDemTalk 23:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Now I'm done!Ray-Ray 00:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assess the material and define your scope

I would like to pose two questions: (one) does this project cover things like the White House that relate to the presidents or just the biographies? And two, since we only have 42 biographies to work with (Grover Cleveland served twice), how about completeing the table below?--HereToHelp 01:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Contact with WP US Presidents
Article Date Assessment Comments
List of Presidents of the United States June 15, 2005 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
President of the United States of America May 17, 2006 A Formerly featured but still good.
Seal of the President of the United States May 19, 2006 Start Some good sources but where's the beef? (It's never going to be as big as some others, though.)
White House May 17, 2006 B Many short sections give a "hodgepodge" feel.
Air Force One October 12, 2004 A Needs cleanup.
Marine One July 20, 2006 Start Expansion Needed.
George Washington May 16, 2006 A Has good basic information, but needs serious cleanup as to undersourcing and bad statements to be removed.
John Adams May 17, 2006 A Good, but a few short sections.
Thomas Jefferson May 17, 2006 Good article GA Needs to be NPOVified towards the bottom and shortened.
James Madison May 19, 2006 B Needs more information.
James Monroe May 19, 2006 B Needs more life info.
John Quincy Adams May 19, 2006 B Needs more information, especially on the life part. Table does too much about presidency.
Andrew Jackson May 18, 2006 A Needs only tweaking before an FAC.
Martin Van Buren May 16, 2006 B Close to a GA but not official; particularly needs info on post-White House political activities.
William Henry Harrison May 19, 2006 B Could use expansion, but will still be on the short side.
John Tyler May 19, 2006 B Red links and lists make up too much for the article. Needs more images and actual text.
James Polk February 27, 2005 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Zachary Taylor May 19, 2006 B Not enough meat, poor visual formatting with huge pictures.
Millard Fillmore May 19, 2006 B Needs more work in describing graphs and needs major expansion.
Franklin Pierce May 19, 2006 B Needs expansion.
James Buchanan May 19, 2006 B Needs expansion and probably some NPOVifying: if we're going to trash him , do it with sources.
Abraham Lincoln March 17, 2007 Featured article FA Former featured article.
Andrew Johnson May 17, 2006 B Not doing well; needs more expansion
Ulysses S. Grant May 20, 2006 A Needs expansion under presidency and a few general tweaks.
Rutherford Hayes May 20, 2006 B Needs serious expansion under presidency.
James Garfield May 20, 2006 B Needs expansion, and more detail about assassination (it is likely to be of interest to many casual readers).
Chester Arthur May 20, 2006 B Too many redlinks, needs expansion.
Grover Cleveland March 8, 2008 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Benjamin Harrison May 20, 2006 B Expand and organize..
William McKinley May 20, 2006 B Needs expansion under presidency.
Theodore Roosevelt October 13, 2005 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
William Taft May 20, 2006 A Needs better organizing, formatting, subsections for the presidency, and some more good text or source won't hurt (I've promoted this to A Class - I think it's better than most of the Bs - Sam 15:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)).
Woodrow Wilson May 20, 2006 B Needs section on private life, otherwise very good. Going over text wouldn't hurt, either.
Warren Harding May 20, 2006 B References! Inline notes! And perhaps some NPOVing is needed.
Calvin Coolidge March 3, 2007 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Herbert Hoover May 20, 2006 B The info is there, it just needs to be presented well. More inline sources would be nice.
Franklin D. Roosevelt May 24, 2006 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Harry Truman August 30, 2007 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Dwight Eisenhower May 20, 2006 A Trim sections towards bottom, they aren't that important. Needs inline notes, but has good general refs.
John Kennedy May 20, 2006 B Formatting issues.
Lyndon Johnson May 20, 2006 B Needs additonal citations.
Richard Nixon May 17, 2006 B Quotes should be trimmed or eliminated, clean up needed and claims verified.
Gerald Ford April 8, 2006 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
Jimmy Carter May 19, 2006 A Needs to focus on neutraily and economic record.
Ronald Reagan February 6, 2008 Featured article FA Date is date featured.
George H. W. Bush May 19, 2006 Good article GA Need expansion of events under presidency and additional citations.
Bill Clinton May 17, 2006 Good article GA Only slight tweaking is needed.
George W. Bush February 13, 2007 Good article GA Date is date promoted.
In fact, how about we template that? Wikipedia:WikiProject US Presidents/1.0 Rankings.--HereToHelp 01:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I guess I should add that you should use these rankings, and that you are now part of the Version 1.0 Work via WikiProjects team!--HereToHelp 01:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Partner needed...

Will someone be my partner?--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 15:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

there is also another userbox that general Eisenhower made, but he hasnt put it on the project page yet...Ray-Ray 16:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

Might i suggest you create a banner for talk pages, like the one at Talk:James Monroe (and possibly coordinate with the WikiProject U.S. Congress. :) -Quiddity 17:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] For newbies

Though I don't like to admit it, I am a noob. I have never worked on a project before and am relatively new to this. However, i would like to join your group (i added myself to the members list). What should I be doing? And how much knowledge do I need (All I have is the recent finish of an APUSH course in school)? TheGodEmperor 01:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

We know; the red (nonfunctioning) link to your userpage is a dead giveaway. But as long as you make useful edits, we'll take you in. Start researching, or better yet, complete those ratings from a few posts up and then we'll know what needs it most. As for more on Wikipedia in general...just a moment, let me welcome you. (Always put new stuff on the bottom of talk pages).--HereToHelp 01:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Do you guys include Acting Presidents (Dick Cheney is the only Acting President thusfar not to be a president as Bush Sr. was elected right after his Vice Presidency)? Also, given that you cover some articles relating to US Presidents, do you plan to work on the ultimate presidential urban legend, David Rice Atchison? Staxringold 23:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Dunno. When we're done with these we can move on to the Vice Presidents.--HereToHelp 00:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I asked about Cheney not because he is VP, but because he was Acting President of the United States for a couple of hours. I was wondering if you folks included them (well, thusfar because as I said with Bush Sr. being elected regular President, HIM, referring to Cheney) as president(s). Staxringold 01:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This is a new project; we really don't know. We haven't even assesed what we have!--HereToHelp 02:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Council

Why don't we elect council members? And if a team's article becomes featured, does the team get a position on the council?--71.30.192.15 01:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Frankly, that's just a way to spark bad feelings with no redeeming value. It's what you do, not your position, that counts. Would anyone oppose disolving the council?--HereToHelp 02:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I didn't mean to dissolve the council. I meant why don't we elect members or if a team's page gets featured, do they get a spot? Just askin' and givin' ideas, y'all. Notin' else.-GangstaKentuckyEasterUnited StatesBunny-18:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Dissolve except for president, who will do all jobs of the council but no edits.-Gangsta-Easter-Bunny-(22:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Page Template

Here it is:

The official Seal of the President of the United States of America.
 This article is part of WikiProject U.S. Presidents, a project to improve the quality of the biographies of U.S. Presidents and related articles to meet the criteria for Featured Article status. You are invited to view our progress.

The code is {{WP:USP-A}}.-GangstaKentuckyEasterUnited StatesBunny-18:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't put that up anywhere yet. Let me work on it, but I'm busy now.--HereToHelp 20:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I made some serious modifications. Oh, check out this cool feature:
{{Template:WP:USP-A|class=FA}}
makes this:
The official Seal of the President of the United States of America.
 This article is part of WikiProject U.S. Presidents, a project to improve the quality of the biographies of U.S. Presidents and related articles to meet the criteria for Featured Article status. You are invited to view our progress.
Featured article FA This article has been rated as FA-Class on the assessment scale. As such, it represents some of the best work we have accomplished.
Of course, we have to finish ranking everything before we put this in, so we have more time to improve it.--HereToHelp 23:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking about having something about the importance of the articles, but most of these are Top or High, and arguably all Top. So there's no real point.--HereToHelp 23:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bush Article

This is an article we won't be able to work on till 2008. Updaters will probably put in POV (just like the news). So we will either (A) don't work on that article till 2008, or (B) get two teams to work on it. Think about it, Ray-Ray.-GangstaKentuckyEasterUnited StatesBunny-18:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed portal

I have been working on Portals for a while, and have put together a proposed new portal to cover U.S. Government topics. The proposal is at Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals#United_States_Government, with a mock-up of the portal at User:Kmf164/United States Government. For a better idea of how portals work, check out Wikipedia:Featured portals. My thoughts were to use part of the portal to highlight featured articles and pictures. Another part of it could highlight current events (news stories, as well as things like current/pending legislation, nominations, Supreme Court cases/decisions, etc.). The third part could be some topic directory. The last section could highlight WikiProjects and things to do. I think the scope of the portal should include both what's current, as well as historical aspects. I'd like to welcome any suggestions on improving the draft. Also, would anyone here be interested in helping to maintain it, should it be approved. Maintenance would most importantly involve keeping the current events updated, but also choosing articles and pictures to feature, maintaining the list of articles/categories, etc. I think the best place to provide input is at User_talk:Kmf164/United_States_Government. Thanks. --Aude (talk | contribs) 19:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presidential Stub

Should we make a stub for presidential categories?--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 21:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)(actually I'm working on it) (too late!)

Here it is-
Seal of the President of the United States This U.S. President-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by talk:WikiProject U.S. Presidents|action=edit}}.
--{{USP-stub}}
Uh...do we have any use for it? I mean, we have B-Class or better for everything. Don't rush head long into these sorts of things. Yes, be bold, but we don't need it.--HereToHelp 22:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Eventually we may need it though. (For Presidential parties and conventions, etc.)-Gangsta-Easter-Bunny-(00:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] New Council Ideas

The council should be elected. The President will have 6-month terms. The Vice-President will be elected with the President(running mates). The Secretary will have 3-month terms. The Newbie Welcomer will have a 1-month term. The Librarian will have 4-week terms, and project relations will have 2-week terms.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 01:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

If this works I am running for Project Relations.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 01:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, I think the council should be disolved. It is nothing but an impediment to improving articles. Just get out there and start improving stuff.--HereToHelp 01:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the council is quite good. The President's job would be to look over the project. The Vice-President would look over the council more than the project. If the President (A) resigned, or (B) is caught vandalising U.S. presidential articles three times, s/he is impeached and the Vice-President takes over. The secretary would look after the templates, article status, project advertising... The newbie welcomer will welcome newbies. The librarian will find resources (wikipedian and non-wikipedia). Project relations will make sure we come out all right with other projects and MfD's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gangsta-Easter-Bunny (talk • contribs) 12:55, 19 May 2006.
I'm still not convinced.--HereToHelp 20:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Why can't we all do whatever we want or can to help with President articles and associated templates, etc? Why on earth do we need a Council? That's the kind of thing which makes the project look like a fun club made up by school kids, rather than something designed to improve an encyclopedia. ConDemTalk 01:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Amen! It's not your position but your contributions. Let's avoid bureaucracy whereever possible. We need something more like an adhocracy.--HereToHelp 03:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Dissolve the council!!!!! See above.-President GangstaEB-14:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New course of action

I've finished assessing all of our material and have found some patterns: (1) there is a lot of stuff. If we do one a week, we still need about a year. (2) The A-Class articles need to be shortened, the B-Class articles need to be expanded, and a few A-Class articles are just about ready for an FAC. Here's what I propose: we have three Collaborations each week, chosen informally, from topics that need expansion (mostly B-Class), shortening (mostly A-Class), and tweaks, either for an FAC or to revisit something featured. This system would probably replace AAA, because while they are not mutally exclusive, they are redundant to each other. I have made a draft in my sandbox.--HereToHelp 17:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. ConDemTalk 00:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I've moved it to Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Presidents/Collaborations. Please discuss it here, though.--HereToHelp 01:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I haven't seen any activity—please don't let this WikiProject become inactive—so if no one objects soon, I'll put this in and scrap AAA (hey, it's starting to look like a one man project.)--HereToHelp 01:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Done.--HereToHelp 11:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Portal

Somebody created Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Presidents/Community Portal and, not to be mean, but it's pretty much worthless. Anyone concur to delete it?--HereToHelp 11:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup. ConDemTalk 16:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

We need a logo.Image:WP-USPlogo.jpg

I think the Presidental Seal, without modifications, would suffice. And the barnstarr is kind of unnecessary, too. Remember that we probably should not modify these sorts of images without good (encyclopedia-related) reason. We don't need our own barnstar.--HereToHelp 11:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

O.K.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 12:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to put these up for deletion. --HereToHelp 12:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nominate articles for Portal:United States

I've worked for the past month to update Portal:United States and keep it better maintained. Though, I think the portal would be even better with broader participation. One way to do that is instead of choosing the "selected article" myself each week, if others would nominate articles and help make decisions. (same goes for pictures, though these are stocked up through July 29) Articles about U.S. Presidents (and other U.S. politics) are welcome on the portal, as it's intended to cover all topics relating to the U.S. If you would like to nominate or weigh in on what should be featured, please visit the portal. Thanks. --Aude (talk contribs) 21:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Presidency of the United States

Yo guys - terribly sorry but I didn't "know of your existence." Please do check this portal out and contribute. Rama's arrow 17:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

I just wanted to let you know that the Biography WikiProject has been reorganized and we wanted to see if you guys were interested in merging with us? We've reorganized it so that it's more like the Military history project with task forces for the specialized areas. One of the task forces we could create could be Politicians-- by merging with us and becoming a task force, you wouldn't lose anything! You'd keep your same page here, it would just be redirected to Politicians task force (which we'd create) and you would continue as before, except that instead you'd also gain the benefits of being part of a larger project. We would give you a parameter to our Project banner (politicians-task-force=yes) and a note would appear that says the article is a part of that task force (see example on military history article), plus having peer reviews and collaborations, and being able to grade articles by class and importance so that the articles can be part of the WP:1.0 project and much more... Let me know what you think! If you are interested, you need to add your name to the task force vote we're currently having plange 16:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That might work except the project is all but abandoned...I'm probably the only one who still watches the page. A "Selected president" on a separate portal might be interesting.--HereToHelp 17:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Then come join our politicians task force :-) plange 17:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I said I watch the page...but I guess I, like everyone else, don't have the same enthusiasm as I did when this started. I may help out, I may not; my schedule's looking busy. But feel free to make use of what there is...the version 1.0 rankings, for instance.--HereToHelp 17:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gerald Ford FAR

Gerald Ford has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Curse of Tippecanoe article

I know that this article might not be one that you think particularly relevant to your topic, but it does deal explicitly and exclusively with Presidents of the United States. I was wondering whether this project would want to include it within the project's scope or not. Badbilltucker 02:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion parameter discussion

A discussion has begun here to establish consensus regarding the religion parameter. All editors are invited to join the discussion. This message has been cross-posted to other relevant talk pages. Thanks. --MZMcBride 04:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First ladies - Your purview or should they go to the United States project?

Do and should the First Ladies' articles be within the purview of this WikiProject? They're currently orphaned in the vast see of regular biographies, and, if the fawning government-written Sarah Childress Polk is any indication, in dire need of attention. Also, pending an answer, I went ahead and set up an expert request for you folk on that Polk. MrZaiustalk 05:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

    • bump Noone interested in a First Ladies working group? Admittedly, I'm not, but I haven't ever met a female government or poli sci teacher that didn't focus overmuch on the topic. Hard to believe there are no takers, or even parties able to clarify the points on Talk:Sarah Childress Polk. MrZaiustalk 17:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Second bump This expert request is nearly 8 months old. Anyone have anything to add to the article in question? It still seems somewhat odd and, due to its primary source, overly fawning. It could definitely use a fresh set of eyes. MrZaiustalk 23:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Hello. I would appreciate feedback about the discussion taking place here. Thanks in advance. El_C 05:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Appleton links are useful: one user 24.94.139.230 has been adding links to the Appleton biographies. Appleton publishers was a main New York publisher of solid serious historical material in the 19th century--especially the Annual Cyclopedia (1860-1901) which I use all the time. Appleton published an excellent 6-volume compendium of biographies of famous Americans. They are factual and unbiased. It's hard to find outside big libraries so it's great they are online now and can be linked to Wiki articles. Stan Klos, an expert in historical documents, has done a good job in editing them and making them available. Rjensen 05:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Right, but we are getting spammed with them. Perhaps incorage the user adding the links to use citations? —— Eagle101 Need help? 06:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
No it's not spam. Each link is appropriate to one and only one article. Rjensen 06:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good JOB!

Hey! We're getting more US President Articles to be featured! Congratulations! –Eisenhowerofficial (e) 16:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC) 22:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)!

[edit] Flag icons

Just joined this project after learning about it on the FDR talk page (I've been contributing to that article for awhile). I'd like to see the Presidential Project template placed on the talk pages of other presidents, as well. It can always be updated later once the rating is completed.

Also, I'd like to propose a standardization of the use of flagicons in the Infoboxes. Some have none at all (such as Thomas Jefferson), others have the states of birth/death (such as John F. Kennedy), but no USA flag icon – which seems odd given the country of office.

I propose placing the US flag icon in the Infobox following "xx President of the United States", along with the state icons for birth/death. See Franklin D. Roosevelt for an example. Thought I should come here first for a consensus. If this is agreeable, I'd be happy to modify all the articles accordingly. JGHowes talk - 12:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

  • It's been a month and no one has commented one way or the other, so I will go ahead with this proposal, OK? JGHowes talk - 14:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry. The sad truth is that most WikiProjects fall derelict pretty quickly; see here. But yeah, sounds good.--HereToHelp 03:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick capitalization question

Should the word "administration" be capitalized or not?

--MZMcBride 19:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review of Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

The article Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy touches on presidential, congressional and goverment agency wikipedia projects. In case you're interested, a peer review request has been posted to Wikipedia:Peer_review#Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy. -- Yellowdesk 14:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List proposal

Can't really tell how active this project is, but wanted to bring this proposal to your attention. After the recent deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States Presidents by longevity I thought maybe it'd be good to take some preemptive steps to save this list and others. One of the things raised in the discussion was that there were just too many lists about U.S. presidents. I just spent some time learning how to use sortable lists and I came up with this: User:JayHenry/president. It's not completely finished yet, but I'm ready to see what people think -- it combines all of the information from List of United States Presidents by longevity, List of United States presidents by age at ascension to office, List of United States Presidents by time as former president, it also includes dates of birth and death, although it would not be a good replacement for those lists, as they contain other information (place, cause, etc.). The list is fully sortable! So what do people think? If we implement this list I'm pretty sure we can prevent president lists from showing up at WP:AFD. --JayHenry 21:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ronald Reagan

Hi there. First off, I'm interested in becoming a member, and would love to join this WikiProject. Second, I am probably the main editor of the Ronald Reagan article, and seeing on the list of all the Presidents on this project page, I disagree with what it says about Ronald Reagan's article. Right now, it states the following: "Needs shortening, especially in lead"--we (the editors) have had long discussions about the lead on Reagan's talk page, and we came to a concensus-the current one. It's slightly longer than some of the others, but close to that of Calvin Coolidge, a WP:FA. So I think that the "especially in lead" part should be removed. Third, the "needs shortening" should also be removed, because right now, Reagan's article is 104 KB, only one higher than that of Gerald Ford's, a FA.

I think that it should read instead, "Close to being nominated for FA", because as soon as all the sources are filled in, I plan on submitting it for a peer review, and then for FA status. Thoughts? Happyme22 00:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mildred Gale

Hello,

as part of the Notability wikiproject, and I'm trying to assess the notability of the article on Mildred Gale, George Washington's grandmother; and I could use some expert advice. See the details on the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 13:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Clinton

Hey, I have nominated Bill Clinton for a Wikipedia:Peer Review. I welcome any comments for improvement as I will give it an FAC run in the near future. Please go to Wikipedia:Peer review/Bill Clinton to make comments. BTW the article is presently at GA level on the page (but A on this project page). More over the Presidential project tag wasnt even on the Bill Clinton talk page so Ive added it. Best, LordHarris 12:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates and succession boxes

I was asked to help copyedit Harry S. Truman. Is there a preference for the use of succession boxes or templates or the use of both? My opinion would be to use the templates only, but I see that FDR uses both. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Also: should {{Lists of Presidents of the United States}} be used in presidential articles? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford

The biography for Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Gerald Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his name has been nominated for deletion as being non-notable. You can make your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject American History Proposed

Comments and support would be appreciated here. Cheers, Corvus coronoides talk 15:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New WikiProject

Users of this wikiproject are invited to join Wikipedia: WikiProject United States presidential elections--STX 04:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] famousamericans.net

The issue of these links has come up several times elsewhere since the March 2007 discussion here. We now have well over 1000 of these links added by several users reported by checkuser as "related". See this discussion on the Adminstrator's Noticeboard about this situation:

--A. B. (talk) 00:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of United States Presidential religious affiliations needs cleanup

The article List of United States Presidential religious affiliations is about to be put through a major cleanup, with some format changes and a close examination of sources. Please visit the article's talk page and comment. Mangoe (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] James K. Polk

I have nominated this article for Featured Article Review. Please come and review it, and help it retain FA status! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Jackson and Hitler

This is being posted at this project page based on the recommendations of Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Turn to others for help. There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Andrew Jackson#Search for Consensus -- Jackson and the "Final Solution.

The issue is whether an article in a Swedish language newspaper quoting a professor of comparative religion constitutes a reliable source justifying linking Jackson’s Indian Removal policy with Hitler’s Final Solution attempt to exterminate the Jewish race. There is a wealth of credible, academic material available to offer valid and harsh criticisms of Jackson’s policy without resorting to the extremes of comparisons with Hitler.

In any event, I would appreciate anybody with an opinion on the subject to weigh in at the Jackson link above. As the matter stands, there is only one editor supporting retaining the language, but I am not sure that a consensus for removing it currently exists (many in opposition are IPs or infrequent editors. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 16:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Theodore Roosevelt FAR

Theodore Roosevelt has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Johnson

I've been doing quite a lot of work on Andrew Johnson and think it's come a long way since it was assessed as a B-class article back in May 2006. Would appreciate a bit of help finishing it up to GA status or possibly even higher.

Cheers, JaakobouChalk Talk 15:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)