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[edit] Translators needed

Cucumis.org needs translators who can translate Turkish into English. This normally requires that English be the translator's primary language. The web site is a free, collaborative translation service, in which every translation is evaluated by an expert and new translators are mentored. Participating is a good way to learn professional translation skills. How is that relevant here, you ask? The web site needs translators who can translate Turkish into English because it has more than 12,000 users in Turkey but fewer than 1000 users in English-speaking countries (see stats). Those 12,000 users are standing by, waiting for texts (such as English Wikipedia pages) to translate. To join and translate, or submit a text to be translated, please click here. --Una Smith (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright of government seals

I always thought government property was in the public domain, but I can not prove it. Can someone fix Image:ConstitutionalCourtTurkeySeal.png ASAP as it's going to be deleted Jan. 9, 2008? Thanks. --Adoniscik (talk) 18:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Such exceptions are not automatic; for the U.S. the rather general exception for the government is by an article in the United States copyright law, specifically article 17 U.S.C. § 105. The law in force in the Republic of Turkey can be found here. There is an exception for speech produced by the government (see Madde 32) and for representations from the educational system (see Madde 33); neither exception would apply here, unfortunately, and I did not see another rule that would grant an exception here.  --Lambiam 23:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of kemalism on AfD

The newly created Criticism of kemalism article has been listed on AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of kemalism.  --Lambiam 22:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suleiman the Magnificent FAC

Just in case some of you were not aware, this article is currently an FA candidate. Please go over what you can, propose or implement improvements and generally help promote the article. Thanks, --A.Garnet (talk) 14:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If editors have access to any sources on Suleiman I'd appreciate an attempt to expand the "cultural achievements" sections, especially on the state of calligraphy, miniatures and ceramics during his reign. Come on people, this is a chance to get a major Turkish historical article to FA status, the response so far has been quite dissapointing. --A.Garnet (talk) 21:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by User:Polysynaptic

User Polysynaptic (talk · contribs) has been engaging in a string of inappropriate point-of-view edits, including erasing well-sourced references to Persian culture from articles related to Turkic topics, and conflating the distinct notions of "Turkish people" with "Turkic peoples". His responses to criticism do not suggest he is amenable to reason. It will require a substantial effort to repair the damage he is doing.  --Lambiam 20:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Contributions of User:Polysynaptic

What is "inappropriate point-of-view edits"?

Who are you judging Mr. Kemalist? You think if a Turk is not Kemalist then it is inappropriate. Pleased to meet you... and your "little" project, too.

"Appropriateness"?? Your so called "Project Turkey" -huh!- watches while Persians define any Turkish entity as "Persian", "Persianated", "Horasani", or at least "Turkic", etc. even the Great Selçuk Empire. That is your condition of appropriateness.

What have you people with your glamorous -approprite point of view- done with Ghaznavid Empire?
What have you people with your glamorous -approprite point of view- done with Kara Khanid Empire?
What have you people with your glamorous -approprite point of view- done with Al-Farabi?
What have you people with your glamorous -approprite point of view- done with "the contribution of Turkish scientists"?

What is "the damage he is doing"?

You have already "done" the damage leaving no place to any others by letting them use the weird, racist term "Turkic" which is "invented" by USSR emperialism to alianate Turkish people to each other. Now, you can start Turkish history with your lovely Mustafa Kemal anymore. well done.

I look at articles related with Turkish Civilisation and see your "substantial" existence. keep going.

--Polysynaptic (talk) 00:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Syrian Turkmen or Turkish Syrians?

The article Syrian Turkmen was moved to Turkish Syrian, and next the population of Syrian Turkmen was counted in Turkish people as Turks. Is this justified, analogous to how Turks in Serbia or Greece count as Turkish people, or is this a "point of view" issue in which as many people as possible should be counted as Turkish people?  --Lambiam 09:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

It really adds up if you start counting Turkic peoples as Turkish people (Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Central Asian Turks in Tajikistan, as is done in the infobox of Turkish people!  --Lambiam 23:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Status of evolution/creationism in Turkish education system

I've read an article in Science about this (see creation and evolution in public education for a summary), though I'm not sure how up to date it now is. The article was published 7 years ago now. Has the situation changed much? Is evolution still taught alongside creationism and Lamarckism, or is it being taught more like Western countries? Or has creationism taken over? I need to do more research on this, though hopefully I can get a fairly quick answer here. Richard001 (talk) 00:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, if anyone knows what has become of the God Delusion controversy, please let us know on that article's talk page. Richard001 (talk) 01:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alanya FAC

Hi all. After a long break from the project, I've finally put Alanya up for featured article candidate. Be sure to check it out and give your opinion on the article.--Patrick Ѻ 15:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Special:Contributions/Dilmener

Further information: Wikipedia talk:Copyrights#How to deal with editors who copy from their own books?

How should this user's contributions be dealt with? Naim Dilmener is a renowned musicologist, but his contributions to Turkish pop music constitute WP:OR. (Look at the Notes too.) If we simply undo his work he may become annoyed and leave. --Adoniscik (talk) 15:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Has he published anything specifically on Turkish pop music? If so, perhaps he could be encouraged to cite them? Kafka Liz (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually he has several books published on Turkish music. If the user is the musicologist himself then wow, we have an author contributing. Should not be discouraged but gently reminded that he should cite the works. list of Dilmener's books. --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 16:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
So who's going to write him a gentle explanation? I'm not good at this stuff. Thanks for writing. --Adoniscik (talk) 16:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seslisozluk on AfD

The newly created Seslisozluk article has been listed on AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seslisozluk.  --Lambiam 18:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metamorfoz on peer review, help!

Metamorfoz peer review, please help! --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 09:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Menemen massacre on AfD

The Menemen massacre article has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Menemen massacre.


[edit] WPTR: Articles of unclear notability

Hello,

there are currently 10 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 12 March 2008 and may be slightly outdated.)

I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability.

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image request: Chora Church

Hi, do any of the members of this WikiProject live in Turkey, and would you be able to obtain a photo of one of the mosaics in Chora Church? Please see Talk:Chora Church#Image request for more information, thanks. --Elonka 13:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation request

Could someone have a go at translating tr:Ali Kemal and tr:İkdam- I have started on Ali Kemal here. Thanks! Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 01:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfC: Should Atatürk International Airport be listed as an Asian or as a European destination?

See this Request for Comments: Talk:Singapore Airlines destinations#RfC: Should Atatürk International Airport be listed as an Asian or as a European destination?.  --Lambiam 23:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit, also to be held in Cebu. The Philippine Wikipedia Community is an Implementing Partner of the Open Source Summit. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to meet people from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. You can register for the Open Source Summit here. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

The Philippine Wikipedia Community
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[edit] Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 14:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Ive created Anglo-Turkish relations

its not too good at the moment and it could do some work. Especially with the layout. I was wondering if someone could help improve the article. Thanks Ijanderson977 (talk) 18:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template question

I would like to move Turkish diaspora articles from {{Turkish people}} and create separate {{Turkish diaspora}} template similar to {{Polish diaspora}} template. What do you think? It seems to me it is a standard to group similar ethnic group articles by the navigation box at the bottom. - Darwinek (talk) 23:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)