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[edit] Notability?

Hey guys, I was just checking out the Illini train route in Illinois, and I have to ask: is this really notable? I mean, who outside of Illinois cares about a pair of trains that shuttle college kids back and forth from Carbondale to Chicago? I understand articles on Amtrak and major train stations, but are articles about individual trains and small routes necessary? Are we going to have a Wikiproject about every individual bus in the United States? Tractorkingsfan 13:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Short answer, yes it is notable because it was given an official name by the railroad. Slambo (Speak) 14:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I am no one to question the work you all have done, just wondering. Carry on. Tractorkingsfan 15:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

This question is also being asked regarding Illinois Zephyr and the new Carl Sandburg - likely due to your Illini query. I understand the comment, but it also insulting (just for college kids from Chicago?) -- having lived in downstate (west-central) Illinois for 20 years -- with its unique transportation issues. I could argue the politics of the 1971 Illinois Service establishment is unique in US politics (references are available). Additionally, why are California and Norteast Corridor exempt from this same judgement? Beatgr 20:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New articles

Since there are still so many articles left to write on passenger trains (like the red links in Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway#Passenger train service, for example), would it be helpful to start a section on the task force page to list new passenger train articles? I started one this week on the Twin Cities Zephyr and I've got more information to add to it, but I thought we might want to have a local announcement location so other task forcers can help with any additional resources they may have. Slambo (Speak) 19:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for general LIRR rolling stock information

I am going to be expanding Long Island Rail Road in the next week, since I just received Steel Rails to the Sunrise through interlibrary loan. I'm generally not a fan of rolling stock, so it would be great if someone else could write a summary of the LIRR's rolling stock, including its history, with citations (or see if I can find citations from the book) to help bring the article to featured status. Thank you. --NE2 18:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tool for education or American propaganda

Is Wikipedia a resource for education and carrying FACTS or a tool for American propaganda? I have edited out redicules claims by Americans in the Land speed record for railed vehicles and Empire State Express only to have arrogant Americans delete them and accuse me of pov can we have a neutral observer look at these sections Oxyman 02:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC) neutral observer made a decicion only to be ignoredOxyman 09:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joining

Since the list seems to be short, how could one go about joining the task force? I am interested and would love to contribute. Jimzim66 22:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you do what I did - edit the list of names with your tag, then start pilfering templates.  :-) Seriously, I don't know the answer either. --plaws 23:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTT

Is the inclusion of wtts for specific passenger trains prohibatd? --Prof Jolly 18:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Standard Format

I've been poking at the Lone Star (Amtrak) for a while now and finally came here to see if there is some standard way of editing articles regarding named trains. Specifically, I'm trying to come up with an elegant way to handle the fact that the Texas Chief lasted into Amtrak days right up until the AT&SF pulled the plug on their Chief trademark ... and then continued as the Lone Star.

I'm starting to relieve the article of the non-Amtrak stuff and I've included the Amtrak Texas Chief info, so now I need to start a stub for the "other" Texas Chief. What is the best title for that? Texas Chief? Texas Chief (AT&SF)? Texas Chief (Santa Fe)?

What is the convention? --plaws 23:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Answering my own post ... I've added redirects to the other train names but I'd still like to know how to handle this. --plaws (talk) 19:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with Comet (passenger car)

On the off chance that this Project and task force are not actually dead ...

Anyone know anything about the Comet series of passenger cars? The article is quite a jumble. I peck at it occasionally and have made a little progress, but I don't know a whole lot about the cars themselves? (besides, you know, what I've read on Wikipedia) I think some of the history is either missing or just plain wrong, but don't know enough about the cars themselves. --plaws (talk) 19:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm still here...
I've probably got a few items in my reference library, but as most of the books I've got cover Western US operations, I can't think of something definitive off the top of my head. I've got a couple years of Railpace magazine that might have some information, but I don't have an index to it yet (and my whole magazine collection could do with a bit of a reorg to make things easier to find). A quick scan in the MR index finds nothing for "Comet" and returns only one relevant hit for "Horizon": "MR Workshop: Amtrak passenger cars - Amfleet/Horizon" in the February 2000 Model Railroader. Slambo (Speak) 20:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually, there are two articles on models of the Horizon cars. The second is "AEM7 locomotive and Horizon passenger cars: O scale" in the February 2000 Railroad Model Craftsman. I haven't seen any listings for further information on the prototype yet. Slambo (Speak) 20:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added Texas Special

I've added an article about the Texas Special. It lacks pictures because the only pictures I can find are models for sale on ebay. I hope to be getting some images and additional information and hopefully some images from The Katy Railroad Historical Society soon. In the meantime, I'd be grateful for any additions and corrections. Lownen (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Added Meteor (St. Louis-San Francisco Railway)

I'd be grateful for additions, corrections, and/or feedback.

Lownen (talk) 05:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Queensland Australia Long Distance trains

On the Traveltrain article It has small genral information about each train Eg. Sunlander westland Etc. Etc. I Mattythebatty has started on The Train Spirit of the outback. so could some people help on this work in progress mattythebatty (talk) 06:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Texas Zephyr

I've just created an article on the TZ. Not very extensive, but has a number of substantial external links for any reader who wants to find out more or add to the wiki article. Textorus (talk) 22:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)