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[edit] Let It Be page

Let It Be is now a dab page. It looks like it was moved before any discussion could be completed. I think Let It Be should go to a (Beatles) article, probably the album like it was. I'm sure you folk have opinions? Discussion at Talk:Let It Be (album)#Requested move. (John User:Jwy talk) 21:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't Talk:Let It Be be the fairest place to hold this discussion? / edg ☺ ☭ 23:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe, but Talk:Let It Be (album) used to be Talk:Let It Be and the discussion had started there so I've continued it. I've also changed (the new) Talk:Let It Be from a redirect to a page that explains a bit what is going on. Willing to move, but I think this would work. (John User:Jwy talk) 00:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Mimi Smith and Julia Lennon

Editors should look at this. --andreasegde (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't even bother looking at it, as it was a complete waste of time. I have the feeling that the bible-bashers will never forgive Lennon (or his relatives, bless them) for saying that The Beatles were bigger than "John's Chest". Slight typo there, methinks... --andreasegde (talk) 19:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Julia Baird has now joined the list of supposedly non-notable GA articles. --andreasegde (talk) 02:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Ridiculous! Her book on growing up with Lennon, in itself makes her notable! Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 02:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I was being a bit sarky... :) --andreasegde (talk) 08:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Now he tells me! You little scalleeeeeee! Dicky Mint 14:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photos in infoboxes

Any living person will have a non-free image deleted from the infobox sooner or later. It's better to move it down into the article. That'll fox 'em. --andreasegde (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The famous Beatles' Newsletter

User Basketball110 asked Hotcop2 how he/she can get it. Time to start it again? (Ouch!) --andreasegde (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll bet 100-1 (in any currency) that this doesn't get a reply... --andreasegde (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
On course, or with a back-street bookie? Moaner Beast 23;08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Moaner Beast? LOL! --andreasegde (talk) 20:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I won my bet though, because it didn't get any postive or negative replies (apart from a humourous one... :) --andreasegde (talk) 17:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for GA

These articles: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song), and Rain (The Beatles song), should be looked at and then put up for GA. --andreasegde (talk) 12:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sod it, I put Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song) up for GA again. It's a nominating life, but someone's got to do it... --andreasegde (talk) 09:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
It got a GA. --andreasegde (talk) 12:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banner photo anomaly

Is there any particular reason why a Parisian boulevard is used as the icon photo for the project banner of a British group, and why said photo is misidentified as Abbey Road on some versions of the banner? Robert K S (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know which versions you have seen, but it's Abbey Road. --andreasegde (talk) 11:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
It's Abbey Road alright, but someone has changed it to a picture with Zig-Zags on the crossing - feckin 'orrible! Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The one I have just looked at is a French street. I'll check the others. --andreasegde (talk) 11:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Which one you lookin at Edge? Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 11:27, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
This one, and it's being used on LOADS of pages. Bugger... --andreasegde (talk) 11:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

To clear this up, after I posted my initial message here, User:WWGB changed the picture for one banner and I changed all the others so that they were at least pictures of Abbey Road. Except {{WPBeatles}} didn't "want" to change, and I can't figure out why. See that banner's talk page. (Issue fixed) (Also note there that this photo anomaly was noticed as long ago as 2006!) Robert K S (talk) 15:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure that I may be allowed to say that we all thank you for your eagle-eyes and work changing the photo, Robert K S. --And so say all of us... (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
So... what do we do about the list using this photo? --andreasegde (talk) 18:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Steve's original point (made in 2006) it looks nice, much better than the one with the Zig-Zags, no Zigs on the album cover crossing:) Jus my opinion Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Photo

Then all it needs is a photo of a zebra crossing, no? Of course, if I had a free photo of the real crossing I could doctor it and take the zig-zags out (clever little forger that I am :)--andreasegde (talk) 06:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Can I download the free photo, doctor it and then upload it as a new free photo/changed free photo, or as fair-use? I could take the zig-zags out, and possibly a car or two, paint the crossing (which looks a bit shabby) and highlight the Abbey House wooden sign. It's not stem-cell research, but it would look nicer. Should I brace myself for a flying fish to be slapped across my boat race, or wha?--andreasegde (talk) 13:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
You vill av to address zis terrrrable fish fettish herr edge, or you vill becoming as mad as ze hairy mongoose! Ich denke, es ist eine gute Idee, mein freund! Sigismund Fraud 14:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Allo, allo, vot is dis Cod fetish of what you are speeking? I cud uploading a doktored version of same photo as die free use, wiv difference name.--Mr. Bimmler and Adi Hilter-Fisch (No talking in ze bunker!) 15:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

For people receiving BBC World, the former comments deviate from 'er Majesty's received pronunciation, and should be disregarded. All complaints will be ignored, by order of whoever gave it.--andreasegde (talk) 14:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, normal service is resumed, and I would like to state that the idea proposed by Mr. Bimler is a jolly good one indeed. I thank you for your attention. Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 15:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I've taken the fabs out of the original (looks spooky) but I'll have to check whether I can upload it as free-use. I wouldn't bet on it. --andreasegde (talk) 12:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've taken the zig-zags out of the free-use photo and have cleaned the zebra crossing. It says I can upload a newer version, but I may upload it as a doctored version, so as not to step on the toes of the original uploader. Does that sound OK?--andreasegde (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Why don't you just upload your new version as an all-new photo rather than uploading it over the original, which is in the Commons as well? Robert K S (talk) 15:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I will, and thanks. The only problem is the zebra stripes in the recent photo are not as long as the original album cover. Am I being a bit pendantic or what? :))
I will upload both. The original without The Beatles as a fair-use photo (it's quite interesting) and the free-use as a better example. --andreasegde (talk) 16:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I want to look at both again, as they look good in Wiki-size, but when you blow them up a bit I can still see some mistakes. Yes, I know, I am being pedantic, but I have to do it. :))--andreasegde (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

This is new --andreasegde (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved the zebra?

If you look at this and then this, it looks to me as if they have moved the zebra crossing further north. (I used the white wall and gates on the left as a reference). The Beetle car would be too close to the crossing at it is now; in fact it would almost be on top of it. Any eagle-eyed Sherlocks to verify this, or am I talking out of my hat? --andreasegde (talk) 10:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems I am. --andreasegde (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

To quote Shriekback's wonderful song Beatles zebra crossing:

But history moves mysteriously and nothing stays there for too long
They scorch the zebra from the road and paint a new one further on
But it still means what it did then and it still looks much like it did
The pilgrims take their pictures still, its guilty secrets they stay hid

Grutness...wha? 10:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

So they did do it, the feckers. I suppose they were only taking their cue from Liverpool city council, who destroyed the original Cavern Club. --Mr Non-Notable (talk) 12:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New photo:

What does anyone think of this attempt? I have taken the zig-zags off, cleaned the zebra crossing, and put a new "Abbey House" sign on. I also added something else from Vienna, but it's easy to spot... I also have a cropped version, which looks more like the album cover. --andreasegde (talk) 12:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Sod it, I have changed the templates photos. If anyone doesn't agree, they should slap me with a live trout until I change them back.--andreasegde (talk) 19:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New article under your purview

Hello;
I ran into Fly on the Wall (The Beatles) last night when I was being vain and checking to see if my own new page had been patrolled. No one else seems to have noticed it, but I thought that this project would probably appreciate knowing about it. It's an unwikified stub at this point; would it be better off as a redirect to the appropriate section of the LIBN album article? J. Spencer (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

It would be better for it to be deleted, as the main Let It Be… Naked article details it. --andreasegde (talk) 17:27, 16 February

2008 (UTC)

Agree. Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
A redirect seems the simplest solution; I've taken the liberty of doing so. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anthology DVDs

Should there be an article on them? I know there is The Beatles Anthology, but would it be worth it to write about what's actually on them, locations, subjects talked about, songs played etc., without it being a list? --andreasegde (talk) 19:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

(I'm only saying this because I've got 'em, and it'd be easy to watch them and press the pause button here and there... , err, and eve-ry-where...)--andreasegde (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not talking about a list, but just putting in (paraphrasing) the quick comments and ideas they talk about.--andreasegde (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Nah, maybe not.--andreasegde (talk) 16:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Well there's already The Beatles Anthology (film), which I've just come across. Oddly it didn't have the WP:Beatles tag on the talk page-- I've just added it. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice one. Maybe I should just add the comments to the relevant pages, as The Beatles Anthology (film) is a long list. Not sure... --andreasegde (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Funnily enough I was looking over the White Album article and thinking the DVD comments by the Threetles and Martin on whether it should have been a single album would make a useful addition. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Music samples

Hello, hello. Long time, no speak. I'm just popping by to alert everyone to the fact that many of the music samples available in Category:The Beatles music samples are orphaned (i.e. not used in any articles) and, as such, are scheduled for deletion by February 24th. Someone please act quickly to put these sound samples in articles using Template:Listen. Thanks! —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 22:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I only found three. They're now on the relevant pages.--andreasegde (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linda

She now has a GA rating. There's not much chance of Yoko getting one, is there? --Not a chance, matey (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Go on...

Answer these; it's all in the links... --andreasegde (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA

There are four articles up for GA, and one of them is Yesterday and Today. Another one (#5) which will shortly be put up for GA, is Rain (The Beatles song). The world will turn...--andreasegde (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Free As A Bird and Rory Storm should be no problem; they look superb. John Lennon looks good too. I think Yesterday and Today still needs a bit of work-- more references would help. Pawnkingthree (talk) 08:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
That's a strange one, because someone put it up for a GA, but said nothing about it on the talk page. I don't know what to make of it. If you look at the talk page, you might (as I did) start thinking about 'socks', but that may only be me being paranoid. "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're NOT out to get ya." :))--andreasegde (talk) 09:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Three-Beatle recordings outside the group

The article All Those Years Ago says "It is one of only several non-Beatles songs to feature three members of the group." However, the only other song I can think of to be released under a name other than The Beatles and feature three Beatles on the recording is Ringo's "I'm the Greatest" which also featured John and George. Are there any others? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Sour Milk Sea is one; there may be other Apple recordings which featured three. Pawnkingthree (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I think The White Album would have a couple.--andreasegde (talk) 12:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Back in the U.S.S.R. and Dear Prudence, when Starr was not there.--andreasegde (talk) 12:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Note that the original reference said "non-Beatles songs". Everything on The White Album including "Back in the U.S.S.R." and "Dear Prudence" was released as by The Beatles. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Well my example still counts!:) Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Whoops! "non-Beatles songs"... I shall now give myself 40 lashes with a banana peel.--andreasegde (talk) 15:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, "Sour Milk Sea" would definitely count. I was looking only at the Beatles' solo work and didn't consider that they might have had three members together on someone else's recording. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What about Rory Storm? "Starr played drums, which was the first time all four (Lennon, McCartney Harrison and Starr) played and recorded together. They recorded three songs: "Fever", "September Song" and "Summertime"." It didn't get released to my knowledge, and it has four of them on it. (Sound of this edit being thrown into trash can.) Bugger... :)--andreasegde (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Tony Sheridan? Three of them played with him.--andreasegde (talk) 19:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kenwood, St. George's Hill

This could, and should, be a GA. Anyone willing to look at it? It's got lots of references, but just needs some cleaning and formatting.--andreasegde (talk) 19:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated it (see above).--andreasegde (talk) 11:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copy page

What is this all about? It's got all the Wiki info on it.--andreasegde (talk) 12:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

It just seems a bit strange to copy the talk page, and everything else - what a waste of server space.:)--andreasegde (talk) 14:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)