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Some old talk about the Amphoe articles predating the project can be found at Talk:Amphoe Mueang Samut Prakan.

There are a few more things which may be added to such an article, but of course most are much less important and more difficult to find than those already listed

  • Economy - major industries (maybe even single factories or companies if notable), or main agricultural products.
  • District office - photo, address and geographical location of the district office. Maybe also the history of the building.
  • List of district officers (nai amphoe). As these change every one or two years such a list would get long quickly, thus maybe better as a separate article (like the List of governors of Surat Thani).

Comments? andy 11:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

OTOP would a good idea IMHO, probably best under "Economy", as long as we don't have the Tambon articles. --media_lib 13:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Why not in the tambon list? That one already is a table, so another column wouldn't hurt. Example:
No. Name Thai name Population Villages OTOP
1. Talat ตลาด 20,755 15 Silk bags
Another thing, probably belonging to the "Places of interest" section would be a complete list of temples. At least for Surat Thani I have found such a list at [1]. However it can get quite lengthy as well, and most temples aren't really notable. andy 12:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

To create the above table I tried to do two templates to make the table a bit easier, especially easier to add more fields, though a bit more text to write due to the variable names. Can take a look at User:Ahoerstemeier/Sandbox#Template testing, any comments? andy 20:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Where to find information

Can somebody help me finding information about the size (in km²) of every changwat/tambon? Thai sites would probably be ok. Thanks. -- hdamm 15:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Did you get my email? The sites which may have the informations on tambon are http://www.thaitambon.com, http://www.siamvillage.net or http://www.tambol.com, but with my limited Thai I haven't found much data there yet. For changwat and amphoe I have collected a lot from various sites in an excel sheet at [2]. andy 03:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, are you still in LOS? - - - No email so far, did you use my Wiki email address?
It seems that thaitambon.com is mainly about OTOP, I found some data about population, but without date; siamvillage.com is same same and is quite difficult to navigate; I didn't know tambol.com, have to check. I used your excel sheet already couple of times. Thanks for the feedback. --hdamm 16:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
No, returned just now :-) The email was sent via wikipedia, and contained effectively the same as the above. Strangely, with the ISP in Surat Thani it wasn't possible to post here most of the time, however the "send email" function returned an "email sent" message. For population only there's of course dopa.go.th - however strangely their numbers for amphoe/changwat for 2000 differ from those of the census sometimes significantly... andy 06:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I found it finally: dopa.go.th has a list with all changwats, tambons and number of mubaan with size in km² (พื้นที่/ตรม.). Click on each changwat to get a more detailed list. --hdamm 14:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

BTW, for population I use these dopa-pages (it seems, these are sub-pages of your URL), there a the numbers of the last 12 years ;-)  -- hdamm 15:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I cannot see any numbers for tambon/mubaan area or population there :-( Or does http://www.amphoe.com - which is where that first link guides me when clicking on a specific Amphoe - only have these numbers for few selected Provinces/Amphoe? andy 16:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
And now I also notice that these tables at dopa allow to answer something I was searching for long time - which tambon belong to which thesaban. As all the thesaban are listed it is easy to see which tambon belong to it, and by comparing with the amphoe it's also possible to find which one belong completely and which one partially to the thesaban. Now I just want the same with the area :-) But it'll be a lot of work to include these data into my excel sheet, as I have to do a lot manually. andy 16:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Here's a new find - oncb.go.th has Excel sheets which list all the villages for each province as well the Chumchon (ชุมชน) for the thesaban (BTW: never read about those before - they seem to be the equivalent of muban within the municipal areas, anyone have more information to create an article chumchon). These sheets are also useful to make sure we don't forget any tambon, they contain the same geocode numbers as used in the census and by DOPA, and they are up-to-date (BE 2549). However I am still searching for area data... andy 11:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

And another new discovery - at http://61.19.55.242/DCLM/DownloadAlldata/ there are documents (both doc and pdf) for all of the coastal provinces, which apparently compile the texts fom amphoe.com and thaitambon.com. Yet the interesting is that for each tambon the area, both in rai and km², is listed. I tried it for Amphoe Tha Phae, however the sum in that case was a little bit higher than the area for the whole amphoe. Strange... Where to find the same for the non-coastal provinces? andy 20:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming of articles

One thing not yet defined is the naming of the articles. So far there are two naming schemes in use - Amphoe name and simply name. Another possible scheme would be to use name District (or name district), which might be less confusing for non-Thais who don't know about what the word Amphoe means. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Subnational entities/Naming - a common approach fitting with entities in other countries would be nice. There's also the problem what to do with the plain name if we don't put the Amphoe article there - should that one be reserved for the main town of the district (unless that one has a different name, e.g. Chaiya vs. Talad Chaiya), should it be a redirect (or disambiguation if necessary). In most cases the central town of a district is so small it hardly makes sense to give it a separate article. If it isn't a redirect we will easily have many red links inviting to create substubs like xxx is capital of Amphoe xxx' without much use, or duplications of the article already written but not found. andy 12:22, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Has this been agreed on completely yet? I tried to ascertain a standard from looking at what's being used, and for the most part I found it consistent: The page for name is the page of the city, i.e. Lopburi is the capital town/city of the province, while Amphoe name is the district which (usually) contains that city, and name Province is the province containing that city and district. This is what I used for the districts in Yasothon, with a disambiguation page including all three. I think this setup works well.rikker04 13:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually this was never really decided in a consensus, it was simply the naming scheme used by User:Waerth when he started creating district articles, and I simply continued to use it, so it's just the de facto standard. I did not put up the point because I don't like this scheme, I just wanted to avoid a massive page move with many broken links later because someone decides equally unilaterally that all district must be [[xxx District]]. For the three articles town/Amphoe Mueang/Province it might be better to have the town at xxx town and make the plain name the disambiguation already, especially as the town is mostly covering the rather modern creation of a thesaban, while the historic town is mostly covered in the province article already. And when a Thai speaks about "Surat Thani" he usually means the province, while other more think about the town, thus there are easily links to the town which actually belong to the province. andy 11:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

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[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thaksin

Is the name "Thaksin" sufficiently unusual that someone signing themselves that way could be regarded as being the Thaksin? Please see this debate Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names#Thaksin. Thank you. --Dweller 12:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)