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[edit] List of Final Fantasy media

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List of Final Fantasy media is being proposed for demotion here. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 06:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redesign of the project page

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Recently, Wikiproject Simpsons and now Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter have been redesigned to be more accessible and navigation friendly. I think it would be a great improvement to go over to that kind of format. What say we do? Judgesurreal777 17:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I still think this is a good idea....anyone out there? Judgesurreal777 00:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and redesigned it- any thoughts? --PresN 14:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Looks nice.HadesDragon 15:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much! Much better looking now, I feel more motivated already! Judgesurreal777 20:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

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Currently, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars has two lists pertaining to it (List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). User:TTN decided it would be best to merge the lists into the main article and split Smithy Gang into those articles. I recently merged Smithy Gang into the list of chatacters by removing the non-notable characters, and I have asserted that a cameo section in the list of characters is valid, per Wikipedia:Trivia sections and Wikipedia:Handling trivia that uses Alex Trebek#Cameos as a good example. I have suggested that we rename the articles per Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves to something along the lines of Characters of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and World of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) just like Characters of Final Fantasy VIII and World of Final Fantasy VI or Gaia (Final Fantasy VII). I believe if these articles are to evolve beyond a non-notable list, they should be renamed. For example, List of Final Fantasy VII locations was merged into Gaia (Final Fantasy VII), because a World article is notable, but a simple list of locations is not. That is why there are other secions of the article to make it a World article. It simply has not been renamed yet.

TTN believes the citations in the development and reception sections of the list of locations, books and magazines, are trivial sources. When I added that the 3D perspective of the game is reminicent of Equinox to the main article, TTN removed it since my souce was "the opinions of the Nintendo Power player's guide writers". Although it was actually Nintendo Power magazine, I do believe a magazine is a reliable source, and I gave a page from Next Generation Magazine which also said the same thing. In addition, I was surprized that TTN said that it was from the players guide, since he claims to own the players guide for the game. He has not verified this, since I asked him for citations in May, "Could you look in the back of the Player's Guide and tell me what “types” of … Magic? I forgot what they call it in the game … well, anyways, what types of Special Attack or whatever it is (actually, could you find out what it's called?) there are? I remember some vaguely when I owned the guide like “Fire”, “Jump”, “Electricity?”, etc. Could you provide a citation, like the page number with a quote in context?" TTN replied that he was going to "get to it" (User talk:TTN/Archive 5#List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). TTN claims the player's guide is "at the bottom of a box that's behind at least five others in a cramped space". Seeing that TTN did not recognize that the page was not from the player's guide when I provided a scan of the page in question from Nintendo Power shocked me. However, I have continued to assume good faith by not questioning TTN's honesty.

Per Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus can change, I have offered five different reasonable, temporary compromises that might integrate my idea with TTN's.

  1. Go over the list of characters so we can delete non–notable characters
  2. Rename the articles by following the steps at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves.
  3. Cut down the geography section list of locations by cutting it into the regional maps the adventures use when traveling from one to another. I can get pictures and write the fair use rationals, and someone can cut down the text that has no citation and does not allude to other media.
  4. Write the concept and creation and reception sections for the list of characters
  5. Write the concept and creation section for the main article

TTN rejected my compromise because it still keeps the articles. I agreed I would consider a redirect, but Wikipedia:Article size does not allow that, since the list of locations is currently 82 KB long. Instead, I agreed to help cut down the geography section that is the bulk of the article, but TTN rejected that as well because TTN states, "I am not interested in working on the article in regards to improving it." and "get past this "having sources automatically means that this information is good" mentality." TTN states, "I don't think they have or will ever assert notability." I have replied with, "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so if you don't think the articles will ever assert notability, we cannot yet know this, per Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#I don't like it.

Would you please take a look at Talk:Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and give us your thoughts? Taric25 00:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dragon Quest articles

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It might just be me, but I've noticed that the Dragon Quest articles have been recieving a lot of vandalism lately. I know they typically don't recieve a lot of attention here, but thanks to anyone who has reverted any of it and anyone who does in the future. Oh and I might as well mention that the Dragon Quest article (as well as several other articles) are waiting to be reviewed for good status. I wish i could help, but I've been busy lately.Evaunit666 02:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wii Games

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I'm curious, maybe someone would know this. Is Square Enix making any games beyond the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicle games? --ZeWrestler Talk 02:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I think so. If I recall correctly, there's this Chocobo game, and a DQ as well, though I'm not sure.HadesDragon 14:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

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At Talk:List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars#Requested move, we're currently discussing a new name for the article, since it's no longer a list of locations. This article is also the current focus of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Cleanup, so any help is greatly welcome. Thank you! Taric25 (talk) 02:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] For in-universe content

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In case anyone is wondering, I have acquired a wikia to cater specially for the subject of Square and Square Enix. If there are any articles that would be deleted for being too in-universe or have little reliable source, I recommend moving them into the Squarewiki. And anyone who would like to expand on the Square Enix subject are welcomed to do so. — Blue。 05:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guidelines

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[edit] WP:FICT has been revised

WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live [1] Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Notability (serial works)

There is a proposal to split WP:EPISODE into a more general notability guideline, Wikipedia:Notability (serial works), and make the rest of WP:EPISODE just a MOS guideline. Please join in at WT:EPISODE#Proposed split of EPISODE and/or Wikipedia talk:Notability (serial works). In addition to episodes, the proposed Wikipedia:Notability (serial works) would apply to other works released in a series (when they are not considered stand-alone-topics). -- Ned Scott 22:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mana (series)

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If there is anyone out there, this article is back at Featured Article candidacy. Show up and review it! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Final Fantasy V

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Is up for featured status!!! If there is anyone out there, come comment on it! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)