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[edit] Returning project to active status

I am giving a go and getting this project back up and running. This is going to include reworking the main project page and beginning the recruiting process. Feedback is appreciated. --Gwguffey (talk) 15:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

(Update) All previously listed project members who have not left Wikipedia have been notified of this initiative and invited to stop by. --Gwguffey (talk) 05:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scope of this project

In an earlier discusssion, Tbo 157 proposed merging/expanding this project into a broader "event venues" project given the quantity of multi-purpose venues and sporting locations. Would this project be more viable if the scope were expanded to include venues for concerts and meetings? --Gwguffey (talk) 18:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Just a note that would mean merging Wikipedia:WikiProject Music venues, a not very active project, into this project. Thanks. Tbo 157(talk) 18:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I have done some work on beginning to recraft the scope section of the project, though I kept it sports-specific for the time being. There needs to be some definition to the types of facilities that the project should cover. Below is a listing of potential types to consider:

[edit] As a sports-specific project

The combined distinct members of Category:Sports venues includes 10894 articles that cover the following types of venues:

  • American football venues
  • Arena football venues
  • Athletics (track and field) venues
  • Australian rules football grounds
  • Badminton venues
  • Baseball venues
  • Basketball venues
  • Bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton tracks
  • Boxing venues
  • Bullrings
  • Canadian football venues
  • Canoeing venues
  • Cricket grounds
  • Field hockey venues
  • Football (soccer) venues
  • Football venues
  • Gaelic games grounds
  • Golf clubs and courses
  • Gymnasiums
  • Horse racing venues
  • Ice hockey venues
  • Lacrosse venues
  • Motorsport venues
  • Racquets venues
  • Real tennis venues
  • Rodeo venues
  • Rowing venues
  • Rugby league stadiums
  • Rugby union stadiums
  • Skateboarding spots
  • Skateparks
  • Ski jumping venues
  • Speedskating venues
  • Speedway venues
  • Squash venues
  • Surfing locations
  • Swimming venues
  • Tennis venues
  • Velodromes
  • Volleyball venues

[edit] Expanded to a larger events project

This would be the members of Category:Entertainment venues subcategories (minus Category:Sports venues listed above) plus Category:Convention centers:

Total distinct articles when combined together with sports venues is 18457 articles which is within a percentage point of two of a 70% increase from sports-specific (math is approximate due to difficulty in attempting to weed out all recursive categories).

--Gwguffey (talk) 05:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I like linking in convention centers because the capacity of the venue relates more to floor space, not spectator capacity. I know a few sporting events have been held at convention centers, but they are a little more rare. However, there are so few convention centers that it may not make much difference. Patken4 (talk) 22:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I included convention centers due to the use of the word "events" in Tbo 157's original proposal. See my follow up in the "project expansion thread below". --Gwguffey (talk) 04:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User box

A userbox has been created for user at {{User WikiProject Sports facilities}}. A different image needs to be found for the box, though. Something historical could be interesting, if a photo could be found with appropriate licensing. Anyway, it's a start. --Gwguffey (talk) 18:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(Update) Changed the colors and image to make it less dark. --Gwguffey (talk) 20:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment

The process of getting the tools required for article assessment as begun. Please visit WP:WikiProject Sports facilities/Assessment to see the to-do list. --Gwguffey (talk) 03:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project expansion

What should the expanded project be called. Any ideas? I can only think of WikiProject:Event Venues or WikiProject Event Facilities. Tbo 157(talk) 16:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

To me, the word "events" implies the broadest of scopes as that would seem to imply facilities that are used for gatherings other than recreation like business conferences, conventions (which could also be recreational events like sportsmen shows, car shows, sci-fi conventions,etc.), expos and tradeshows. That is why I included convention centers in the earlier thread. However, all of the other categories listed in the earlier thread are all subcats of Category:Entertainment venues, so if there is no interest in facilities like convention centers, then what we would actually be looking at are "Entertainment venues" as the category is named. To me, "Entertainment venues" = sports + music + dance + comedy + theater facilities. Whereas, "Event venues" is one step up the hierarchy = entertainment venues + business event venues.
Oh, yeah, what about facilities like fairgrounds? Those also are entertainment facilities. --Gwguffey (talk) 05:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Fairgrounds could be included but I don't think they come under Entertainment venues as they are constantly changing their venue. With regards to business venues, they could come bunder the scope of our project as I can't see them becoming a Wikiproject on its own. Event venues themselves are quite a narrow and unpopular scope. Thats why alot of venues simply come under a larger project such as WP:WikiProject Sports. The categories concerned with our scope don;t have very many articles compared to the more popular wikiprojects. Thanks. Tbo 157(talk) 12:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Just a clarification: In the U.S., "fairgrounds" are locations instead of events themselves. Each state and a lot of counties have their own permanent fairgrounds that are the host venues for their respective annual state or county fairs in addition to other community events or expos (like summer car shows), see Florida State Fairgrounds as an example. --Gwguffey (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. I'll change the project to event venues as soon as weve found all the categories and defined the scope. Tbo 157(talk)
I created Category:Fairgrounds to cover this sort of venue and made a quick attempt to populate it. So, it exists now and can be included in the discussion of appropriateness for the project.

[edit] Estadio de Beisbol Lic.Eduardo Vasconcelos

The above stadium is up for deletion. Give your opinion on the deletion if you feel so inclined. Patken4 (talk) 16:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use of succession boxes on venue articles

I have made a proposal regarding the creation of a succession box for use specifically on venue articles over at WT:SBS#Proposal: New succession template for sports venues. I think it would be great if we could work with WP:WikiProject Succession Box Standardization to develop some guidelines for how succession boxes should be used on venue pages. Currently, it is a rather messy aspect of these articles. --Gwguffey (talk) 04:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Structure section of main project page

I started reworking WP:WikiProject Sports facilities#Structure to reflect current practices and to make it more generalized. Take a look. --Gwguffey (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Template

Hey there, WP:Sports Facilities. I've put together a template for stadiums that have moved out of the "purposed" phase and have had physical construction started.

{{Stadium_under_construction}}

Use it as necessary! Thanks! -- MeHolla! 22:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Great. It has been add to the project template page. --Gwguffey (talk) 03:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)