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[edit] Morals

Due to the increasing emphasis on morals at the end of South Park episodes, would it be a good idea to include the 'moral of the story' in the episode description? Just an idea I had.
--Naylor182 19:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of One-Off Characters

The page has been created. Please help by adding to it, but keep to the format.
Danke,
--Naylor182 15:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

  • I've done some cleanup of the to-do list on the project page; many of the characters there have now been listed on the minor character and one-off character lists. Captain Infinity 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling and Grammar

I have seen a plethora of South Park articles that have absolutely dire grammar and/or spelling. Some sentences aren't technically even sentences. This is a major issue. The grammar and spelling of an article is pivotal to the presentation.

Can I ask two things:
1) If you are bad at spelling, don't guess. Look up the word.
2) Can people help me with reforming the standard of spelling and grammar in the SP pages?

Cheers,
--Naylor182 14:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalising for Season 10

I think we need to put a vandal proof on the List of South Park episodes page. Various occurances of vandalism has come to my attention such as a fake post about an episode called "Cartmanacopedia" in which Cartman discovers Wikipedia. It was soon removed though. To keep this article from confusing people we should give it vandal proof. Mr. Garrison 18:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I think there will be enough people watching this (not to mention the WP:RC patrol) that it's not necessary just yet. If it starts actually happening, then. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to vandal-proof every page and make people (a) register and (b) clear new information with other editors, but that's not the spirit of the 'pedia. -- dakern74 (talk) 00:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Songs

I noticed there are two articles, one called List of South Park songs and another called List of songs featured on South Park. It appears the first one is "original" material (although it seems excessive to me) and the second one is a list of "real" songs that were either played or mentioned in an episode (like, famously, "Come Sail Away"). Seems like these two lists could be merged somehow. -- dakern74 (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, I would say to merge the first into the second, but with a heading that sets it off from the rest. They are two totally different things, sure, but I agree that they can fall into the same article as songs of South Park. ~greenodonata

[edit] List of Minor Characters

I have just made a page for Minor Characters in South Park and I think we should merge some articles into it such as Crab People, The Harrisons, God, Scott Tenorman, Ms. Claridge etc. If anyone agrees with me please reply here. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)

Agree completely. I also don't think some of the characters that were taken from other series, or from real life, need their own section. Bart Simpson, Saddam Hussein, God, Satan, and a few others, are not unique to SP, they were just fictionalized and animated for series purposes. Along that logic, you'd have to add every celebrity that was ever skewered (Tom Cruise, Barbra Streisand, Kathie Lee Gifford, there could be dozens). I think we should stick to just the fictional characters that were created solely for the series. Thoughts? -- dakern74 (talk) 00:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I do not think that Satan, Saddam Hussein and God should be merged as they have appeared in more than one episode and have had significant roles (especially Satan and Saddam Hussein). However, characters appearing in just one episode who are not original to South Park (like Bart Simpson) should be merged.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Watch37264 (talk • contribs) .
I think that all minor characters should be merged, even if they've been in more than one episode, per WP:FICT. -- Ned Scott 01:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree, all minor characters should be in the article. A few appearances certainly isn't enough for an article. If (or) when the character appears on a regular basis, then make the article for it. RobJ1981 04:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
We should merge characters in if they have had less than 4 appearences, not including cameos like God in A Ladder to Heaven. If they've been in four or more episodes then they deserve their own article. Scott Tenorman by the way DOESN'T need an article. When I first joined Wikipedia himself and the Christine Aguilerra Monster from Timmy 2000 had their own pages. We don't need Scott Tenorman.

Mr. Garrison 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Also people are adding many characters all the time, to be a minor character they should have appeared either 2 or 3 times. 1 appearence makes them a ONE-OFF CHARACTER.


See my addition on the talk page of Minor Characters in South Park. Let me know what you think. --Naylor182 13:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I've done some cleanup of the to-do list on the project page; many of the characters there have now been listed on the minor character and one-off character lists. Captain Infinity 20:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Issue with trivia on many South Park pages

Way too much trivia, makes the articles look bad. Put important information in the article itself (not in notes, trivia, goofs, culture references, etc), and keep unimportant things off. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan's guide to every little note or mistake. Episode articles seem to be the most common place to find too much trivia, but it happens on other South Park articles as well. Trivia sections don't always need to be removed, but try to keep it small: between 1 and 4 items is acceptable, in my opinion. Remember: important things, not non-notable things. RobJ1981 04:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, personally what is the point of adding goofs and notes. If we're South Park fans why do we want to bring up mistakes and ruin the appearence on articles with notes and all that. I think 6-8 trivial facts are enough. If there are very important ones put them on the article's talk page. If agreed with it can be added.

I would suggest rebraning Triva as "Episode Notes" or similar. I understand Wikipedia want to lose trivia sections however in the case of individual SP eps I don't think it's too much of an issue, such as useful titbits like "Cartman doing X parodies the time Butters did Y in episode Z". 84.65.12.135 18:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if a rename is the best way to solve the issue though. Jmlk17 23:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree that having too many trivia sections is too much. I don't think wikipedia is the right place for goofs, 'did you notice' or other pedantic material. However, I think each episode should have a "References" section. It's a credit to the show that they make several references,. The references aren't "trivial" to South Park, but rather a main characteristic of each show. Furthermore, "fitting in" every reference into the plot description usually bogs down the description and makes it difficult to read. The references are best presented in a list format. Is there any way this can be put to a vote or something? Every single episode's discussion page has this same debate. Blakecarlile (talk) 21:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I've railed against this in all the episode discussions and I couldn't agree more that we oughtta put it to a vote. I don't like having multiple sections for this kind of stuff, thats just silly, but a single section for describing cultural references of interest should be the norm for South Park episode entries and we shouldn't have to fight with these glorified librarians who delete everything that doesn't meet their arbitrary criteria for what an encyclopedia 'should' be —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snafu7x7 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, the argument I always hear from detractors is that it violates the guidelines of Wikipedia's policy against Trivia sections. Then they invariably reference WP:TRIV as their justification for deleting content. This is hilarious because they've obviously not read this guideline carefully. What the guideline says is to "Avoid creating lists of miscellaneous facts", especially those that are not referenced and verifiable, I fully support that, but where a post is valid, properly referenced and adds to the overall value of the article it should never be deleted. The guideline even says this explicitly, a fact the delete-happy always fail to mention, to quote, it say: "This guideline does not suggest removing trivia sections, or moving them to the talk page. If information is otherwise suitable, it is better that it be poorly presented than not presented at all." Snafu7x7 (talk) 04:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Improving articles

Congratulations to everyone who contributed towards Trapped in the Closet (South Park), which now has good article status. However, the main article about South Park really does need improving, given that it is one of the 50 most visited articles on Wikipedia, and it has been tagged as an article requiring cleanup since last month. Here are a list of suggestions towards improving it towards good and eventually featured article status:

Cite sources when analysing episodes, as Wikipedia is not the place for original research.

Follow the style of other television show articles that have good and featured article status.

Integrate trivia into the article where possible.

Add any more suggestions if possible.

Watch37264 15:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed quite a lot of links to other non-SP articles with random words like "sex" (linking to the sex article) and "hostage" (linking to the article for hostage) in many episode articles. I do not think these are necessary and I suggest them to be cleaned up.Bittersky 21:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 23:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Character pages

This is getting out of hand. People are freely deleting articles and merging them when they don't need it. Some characters don't even have the character template on their page and all articles need to have the South Park characters template so other articles can be linked. I'm also having a hard time finding out who voices who for:

  • The 6th Graders
  • Bertha
  • Sally
  • Heidi

and many more. If you know could you please say.

If you mean me, I was just merging what was on the to be merged list and some others with the same importance as those. I don't think I merged any that were important. Nemu 03:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough, good job tidying it all up Nemu.


[edit] Voices of Characters

Below are all the character pages. Please help me by filling them in because I really am stuck on some.

  • Stan- Trey Parker
  • Kyle- Matt Stone
  • Cartman- Trey Parker
  • Kenny- Matt Stone
  • Butters- Matt Stone
  • Tweek- Matt Stone
  • Mrs. Garrison- Trey Parker
  • Mr. Mackey- Trey Parker
  • Craig- Trey Parker
  • Clyde- Trey Parker
  • Wendy- ?
  • Bebe- Jennifer Howell
  • Jesus- Matt Stone
  • City Wok Guy- Trey Parker
  • Officer Barbrady- Trey Parker
  • Sergeant Yates- Trey Parker
  • Principal Victoria- ?
  • The 6th Graders- ?
  • Heidi- ?
  • Kevin- ?
  • Kindergarteners- ?
  • Saddam Hussein- Matt Stone
  • Satan- Trey Parker
  • Mr. Slave- John "Nancy" Hansen
  • Token- Adrien Beard
  • Mr. Tweek- ?
  • Mrs. Tweek- ?
  • Randy Marsh- Trey Parker
  • Sharon Marsh- ?
  • Liane Cartman- April Stewart
  • Dr. Mephisto- ?
  • Dr. Doctor- ? and George Clooney
  • Goth Kids- ?
  • Mayor McDaniels- ?
  • Chef- Isaac Hayes
  • Jimbo Kern- Matt Stone
  • Ned Gerblansky- Trey Parker
  • Mr. McCormick- ?
  • Mrs. McCormick- ?
  • Stephen Stotch- Trey Parker
  • Lynda Stotch- ?
  • Nurse Gollum- ?
  • Sally/Powder- ?
  • Bertha/Red- ?

[edit] Character page format

I noticed that none of the pages share the same format, so I was thinking there should probably be one. I was thinking it would be something like I did to Ike's page. The personality section would have subsections if they're relevant such as Satan's relationships section could be under it. Then the accomplishments section would replace the mention of every single episode as that seems unencyclopedic. Thoughts? Nemu 19:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

  • You're very right about that, the character pages have been bothering me for ages, pages like Ms. Cartman need lengthening. Not just mentioning appearences. My idea for page layout is:

--introduction--

(who is character?)

(voiced by?)

--character traits--

(appearence?)

(behaviour?)

(personality?)

--family/friends--

(links to other relatives with brief description of them)

--career/lifestyle--

(any hobbies?)

(job? has job been relevant in episodes?)

--important points of their life--

(major points in episodes, such as Cartman's Mom is Still a Dirty Slut for Ms. Cartman)

(goals in life?)

--appearences--

(what episodes? brief description)

--trivia--

(important facts)


Introduction would be the opening, so that's already taken care of. Character traits could have appearance and personality subsections. If the character has enough info for it, that's where the relationships could also be. The problem with separting their life and their actions is that some lack certain parts, so it would be better to combine them. Appearances really doesn't need to be there because if the appearance wasn't important enough to be mentioned in their actions, it's pointless. Trivia sections are also pointless because if the info isn't important enough to be put anywhere else, it shouldn't be mentioned. Nemu 23:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
i've updated the ms. cartman page but it needs trivia.

--Naylor182 14:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Park portal

I have started work on a portal for South Park. Feel free to contribute. Watch37264 14:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is the South Park portal if you would like to help. Watch37264 16:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI, someone's nominated this portal for a proposed delete (not me!). Thought you might want to know. –Little Miss Might Be Wrong 04:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I have now nominated the portal for deletion. Watch37264 20:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

A ton of articles require cleanup. [List of minor characters on South Park]] has no lead, and is written from an in-universe style. South Park families should be moved to List of families of South Park per WP:MOS-T. Several other articles are written from an informal tone, witch isn't encyclopedic etc. We should address this ASAP. -- Selmo (talk) 23:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment and Importance

It is important to assess all articles relating to South Park in terms of their quality. Also, could someone expand the template to include the importance of the article within South Park. I have tried and failed on several occassions. This would be very helpful as we need to identify which articles need improving the most as well as the most important articles. Thanks. Watch37264 16:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I've finally added an importance assessment parameter to the banner. -- Selmo (talk) 03:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Now that this has been done, I feel that we should get on with assessing the articles based on their quality and their importance within South Park. We need to have a discussion over how 'important' articles before this can be done effectively. At the moment, the 'Top-importance' articles/lists are South Park, List of South Park episodes and South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut. I propose that the main characters should be top-importance, as well as the creator bios. I also propose that articles about episodes should in general be mid-importance. Any additions to this debate would be welcome. Watch37264 19:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

I just wanted to say thanks for doing this. I've been trying to correct Stan's article(When it came to heritage and veganism, I posted in the discusdsion.)

[edit] Character Pages

Just thought I'd explain to everyone that I've split the character lists up to families, townsfolk, school staff, school students, occasional characters and I've kept the minors.

[edit] Kenny so called lyrics

I've have to remove 3 examples of these and i've very very minor interesting in south park . User of this project should be keeping a very active eye out for this (Gnevin 18:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC))

The source for this is http://spscriptorium.com/SPinfo/OCsecrets.htm, which cites an online chat with Trey Parker. That site appears to be pretty credible. --MutantMonkey (talk | work) 01:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Thats one fan site Wikipedia:Verifiability and WP:Cite require more (Gnevin 12:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC))
The official site has this FAQ entry for seasons 1-5, I'll see if I can find something on the official site for season 7 onwards --MutantMonkey (talk | work) 02:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Thats more like it readd if you wish(Gnevin 15:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC))
Ah, found season 7+, no official word on the current one, though. I'll go ahead and readd those. --MutantMonkey (talk | work) 03:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open tasks: List of minor characters

All of the character links proposed for merging with the List of minor characters now redirect to the aforementioned List. Should this task therefore be deleted? Samurai V 13:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Captain Infinity 20:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Created Images of Characters

Hey there, would it be a wise idea to use created characters from the "Create your own South Park Character" game at southparkstudios.com to put up some clearer images of characters for their pages? For example, here's Stan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StanSP.png

Not 100% sure about the copyright requirements and stuff, but if it's okay to do I guess anyone can do the rest. So yeah, thoughts? :) Goroliath

[edit] AfD

The article Homes in South Park is up for deletion. It's the first time I saw this article, and I probably would have nominated it myself. This whole project seems to be pure fancruft, now that I really think of it. -- Selmo (talk) 17:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The project is NOT fancruft, it is an attempt to tidy up South Park's articles. If you don't like the idea of the project then don't be a member.
Ok, sorry. I'm only doing what I feel is the best for South Park and Wikipedia. -- Selmo (talk) 20:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
For someone who wishes to be a Wikipedia administrator, you do not show much professionalism. Learn to be less abrasive, please. --Naylor182 00:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Park Episode List

I'm giving each season it's own article just like the Simpsons. Please do not create articles for seasons that haven't been made, I'm up to season five. Please do not add an article for season 6, season 7, season 8, season 9, season 10 because I have done them on my own specific format.

  • Mr. Garrison 20:06, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Is an individual page for each season really necessary? The South Park eps page is very good (it's an FL after all) and if your going to make individual pages, I don't think that they should just be copy and paste versions of the big list. So, if we're going to have individual seasons, we should get rid of the summaries, etc on the main episode page and make it similar to the List of episodes of The Simpsons. -- Scorpion 14:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Exactly! This is what I've been trying to say......we seem to copy everything off Simpsons pages you know!

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

This has little to do with this project. --Naylor182 19:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CFD notice

Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 15:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Please also note Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 20 for a review of the decision regarding Category:Actors by series. Tim! 08:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Why was this deleted may I ask? It's quite a good idea for a category and I'm sure that the page's creator and many others would agree. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)

[edit] Season 11

Just a word of warning, keep an eye out for vandalism and misleading information on the episode page about season 11 eps. I found "Return of Darth Chef". Just a reminder, season 11 starts March 7th! *Mr. GaRRiSoN 23:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Someone has been adding "past South Park character" to some characters who haven't appeared for quite a time. I'd like to know, how is a "past character" defined? I mean, calling them "past" is a little bit over the top, but not calling them so is crystallballing, as it predicts they are sure to return. But, then again, we would then have to include "past" to every secondary or reccuring character after each apisode in which they weren't featured, and that is quite irrational.--Orthologist 17:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

"Past" shouldn't be used at all - they are either a character or they aren't. Writing about fiction guidelines say that fictional events should be written from a present tense perspective, since they "come alive" whenever the fiction is read or watched. CovenantD 20:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
That was me. It's for characters who were killed off or written out. For instance Chef, Choksondik and Crabtree are dead, whereas I feel Mr. Slave was written out. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)

[edit] Butters

While I took alot of time to cleanup and condense Butters' main article, could some of you help me cite the sources so we can get this article a good rating. Thrawny 17:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] replacing Infobox South Park episode

In the process of attempting to limit the amount of Series-specific episode infoboxes, I have now landed at South Park :D. Replacing all usages of this template by hand is just an enormous task. I'm considering replacing the current contents with the template with User:TheDJ/SandboxTemplate3. On article pages you will then end up with this (see box at the bottom). After this a bot can subst: all the transclusions of the template without breaking the box. You will end up with a less then optimal subst: result See this diff, but it doesn't interfere with the functionality of the infobox, and it saves a whole lot of work. Opinions please ? --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 12:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I like it, it's very clean and looks easy to edit if necessary. Captain Infinity 14:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

Should most of the characters be merged with the various lists? After looking at most of the articles, the bulk of them are stubs or would be stubs after the removal of trivial information. Only the main characters and the major secondary characters should need pages. Nemu 19:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, but it depends on who you mean. We made an agreement along time ago that if they've been in about 4 or more episodes with an important role they deserve an article. While people waste time deleting we could actually work on fixing an article for once....no offence to anyone but we don't seem to ever fix stubs. Some of us fixed up a few character articles maybe it would be good for everyone to do... Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
I really would say most of them. All of the ones under the "Townsfolk" section, most of the ones under the "South Park Elementary" section, and probably like half of the family members are stubs (many have pointless lists). Instead of taking the time to mention every single slight role, it would seem better to have most of them on the lists. The description of their character and a couple of really important roles they have can be talked about (the bulk really shouldn't need mention). Four episodes really isn't a very good method of determining importance. Nemu 19:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
We can't just delete a whole load of articles because they lack quality. Come on people this in an encyclopedia! We're meant to add more things and write, not delete stuff just because it doesn't seem important. These characters have a lot of important history. The only ones I can think of worth merging are Kyle Schwartz and Mr. Adler. People visiting the site won't care about if the pages are meaningless to a few people, they care about finding out the facts - quickly and in good detail. All I see on this project is merge/delete/speedy delete. I founded this project to ensure one thing - all stubs etc. are fixed.....not deleted. If you don't believe I created the page check history and go to the beginning. I should be listed first. I didn't want it to end up as another useless talk page with people just wanting to merge and delete stuff, I made it so we can discuss how to improve, not delete.... Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
The problem is that not enough people actively work in this project. The stubs won't be fixed unless plenty of people are willing to work on them. If they are merged, all of the core information will be placed there. That way, all of the junk will be gone, and it can be expanded. After being worked on enough, the character could be brought back. Nemu 17:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm really against that. Would you be able to post some article titles that seem unsufficient, I'd be happy to work on them. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
Well, you really aren't the deciding force or anything. The fact that you're the only one that has replied sort of proves my point. Pretty much all of the articles need major work. That is why most should be merged. Nemu 22:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Dude calm down I'm just saying my point of view ..... besides, why can't we just improve articles for once, actually merge them all I'm more bothered about the South Park Wikia site. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
I think you're the one that probably needs to calm down if you see that previous comment as anything other than calm. I guess I'll merge some in the next few days. Nemu 15:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that I got a bit mad. Anyway, I'm fixing some of the articles could you tell me some of the pages you wanna merge so we can all voice an opinion here? Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
At this point I was thinking of merging pretty much all of the stubs. For example, Jimmy is a pretty notable character, but his article is pretty much a stub (after cutting some of the repetitive and pointless stuff). He should be merged for now. He may warrant a page in the future, but at this point it's rather pointless. Nemu 20:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
True, but is it okay to merge it with South Park Elementary students. These seemingly unusual pages help to prevent those long lists that can add barely anymore info to. They also make the page easier to load up and all. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
but now Jimbo Kern has an article, as does Shelly Marsh, but Jimmy, Token and all the others do not. why remove all the students but keep family members?· Lygophile has spoken 02:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm just lazy. I'll get the rest eventually. TTN 02:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Whoa-Whoa-Whoa! What are you talking about? Bebe Stevens' article was not a stub! Neither was Clyde Donovan's! Or Wendy Testaburger's! As I said elsewhere, if the character has enough information to fill at least seven paragraphs, (granted, these paragraphs are about ten lines each), give them their own, private article! It's only fair to the character! Geesh! Wilhelmina Will June 24th, 2007.

[edit] Character images

Well, a consensus must be reached to use specific images on the 4 main characters articles.

  • Image:Stan.svg should be used over Image:StanMarsh.PNG
  • Image:Kyle.svg should be used over Image:Kyle normal appearence.jpg
  • Image:Eric.svg should be used over Image:Cartman opened mouth.jpg
  • Image:Kenny.svg should be used over Image:Kenny normal appearence.jpg

Resons: For the Stan image, check here. About the others, all of those images descriptions (on their description pages) say: "released to the public for any wanted use". NOOO, all of those images are copyrighted. If it really were released to the public for any wanted use, anyone would create a program called North Park and use this images for the main characters.

Another thing is that SVG images should be used over PNG and other formats. Check Wikipedia:Use SVG over PNG. Armando.Otalk • Ev 02:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I uploaded them, if comedy central releases something to the public, then they intend it for public use. Frankly, the SVG images are............I cannot stand them since the incorrect details and fact that they are unnofficial designs. By the way, next time don't so be goddamn rude because I cannot stand people who are rude to me on here. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
  • I happen to like the SVGs. The ability to fix incorrect details is one of the great things about them; anybody can do it, and pretty easily. I'm more concerned about whether they're legal; the fair use template says that it's for "low-resolution images", and I don't know exactly whether SVGs qualify as low-resolution. Assuming they are legal, I absolutely believe they should be used. Playstationman 19:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
  • The character images are copyrighted images and only allowed per the wikipedia policy on Fair Use. Your SVG image is a copyright violation, because it's a derivative of an original copyrighted item. In general, derivatives are more frowned upon by the copyright holders then what they release themselves as images. I think the usage of the promotional images here is definetly preferred. --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 20:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Provided of course proper fair use rationales are provided. The current explenations there are rather ehm, insufficient. {{character-artwork}} should be used for one. --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Can we just use screenshots for all of them? Please would someone agree with me for once. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
If you want to use that images, first use a correct source and a correct status. released to the public for any wanted use??? That's totally false. Armando.Otalk • Ev 02:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I've checked the new images that FictionH has uploaded and I think it's ok. Maybe the best thing we can use, except for the Kyle image. Please upload (replace the actual) a better one. Armando.Otalk • Ev 03:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I just read this. So FictionH CLAIMS that he works at South Park Studios and that he created the pictures. That's nice and all, but 1 we have no proof of his employment and identity, 2 it's not HIS work, all work that he does falls under the copyright of the company he works for (99,5% of the cases), so he cannot decide to license this artwork in the way that he has stated, only the company can do that. This makes BOTH sets of images unsuited for inclusion in wikipedia in my opinion. If South Park Studios really wants to release the work to wikipedia and all GFDL derivatives, then there are wikipedia processes that allow for this. But a claim by a supposed employee will not suffice. Website promo material, or screenshots from the show, with a proper Fair Use rationale is still the preferred way to do this atm. --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 14:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
If I upload screenshots then I'll add that I screenshotted it from my OWN season whatever boxset but I know you lot will still find something wrong with it so actually I probably won't bother. Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)
I'd just like to point out that there's an undercurrent of dislike between people here, I annoy I put the wrong copyright status up but gimme a break, and please do not reply with CAPITAL LETTERS and bold text since it is found rather rude. We all like South Park so lets all work as a team, I know we will do a good job guys so please lets stop arguing. :) Mr. Garrison (talk · contribs)

(unindent) They are also used to show emphasis to certain points. IF I TYPE LIKE THSI THEN I'M SHOUTING, BUT I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. I just care very much about good quality articles, and making images, that are simply not free and never will be free, be proper content in wikipedia is just a difficult proces that is not fully understood by all people; and with reason, because the law is very annoying in this respect. The law is written for professional book editors, not for casual webeditors, and that causes a lot of confusion within wikipedia. I'm just trying to show what the best way is to include these images, without others having cause to remove them in the future. See also WP:IDP#Fair_use_rationale --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 15:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, the only solution is:

  • If we can't use SVG cuz that's a copyright violation (the high resolution), then we won't.
  • If we can't use images created by others who are not the creators of South Park (like the Stan Marsh created by Fiction), then we won't.
  • The only thing we can use are screenshoots, but good screenshoots. And a clear fair-use rationable must be added. And the uploader can't claim that the images have been created by him/her (like the Image:StanMarsh.PNG. Armando.Otalk • Ev 21:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly unfamiliar with the Fair Use policies and Copyright laws, so forgive me if I'm completely off base here... Would it be possible to use pictures and screencaps that are posted on www.southparkstudios.com since that is the official site of the studio? They have a vast collection of images there, I don't think we'd have much problem finding decent pictures over there. Tweeks Coffee 21:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

If this is "promotional" material, then that would be fine. However, if you take stuff that is an "element" of the website, something that for instance was created specifically for the website, then South Park studios might not appreciate that and ask us to remove it (it would still be a proper Fair Use, but note that material used under Fair Use, can be demanded to be take offline/removed by the copyright holder at any time). So that's why I explicitly said "promotional images". The other case is a frame from the actual series and that would always be a proper Fair Use, because it shows the character in the way it was part of it's original fictional work. --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 18:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


Yes, they host a large image index on the site. The pictures are mostly screencaps from episodes posted as individual pictures in an index. You can see this index here. It's broken down by season there, but you can also go to individual characters. That area is even called "Downloads", so I'd say they intend for people to use them as images. An image like this onecould be used for Kyle's page. I'm not sure on the rules about altering an image by cropping out other characters or backgrounds. It would be significantly easier to find acceptable pics there if we could remove excess stuff. Tweeks Coffee 20:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, i think this is the best bet. I'm not 100% sure about the cropping either, but i think it should be ok... Just as a related point "so i'd say the intend for people to use". people are private individuals here. Note that wikipedia as a movement does not have the same "personal use" rights as an individual has :D --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 22:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One-off character page has been nominated for deletion

The List of one-off characters on South Park page has been nominated for deletion. The nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination. If you have an opinion on this issue, please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of one-off characters on South Park and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Captain Infinity 00:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Eh it survived, as I assumed it would. Thanks for the heads up, even those this is a month late. Jmlk17 07:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that we should redo the list. I don't see why it was even deleted in the first place.--Cartman005 04:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Kenny's deaths has been nominated for deletion

This article has been nominated for deletion. Come participating and giving your opinion about this article here. DeansFA 13:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dirka dirka up for deletion

Hey guys. The article Dirka dirka is up for deletion. [1]. Could you guys go over there make a convincing argument to save it? It's a popular enough phrase to be included. --Candy-Panda 09:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it is popular, nay, notable enough to be an article. Jmlk17 08:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Russian Music" in Free Willzyx and The Snuke

This seems like the best place to raise this issue, which I feel silly to make a big deal about but I feel like it shouldn't be ignored. In both Free Willzyx and The Snuke, there is a brief music cue when the boys are dealing with Russians. Someone is chanting, presumably in Russian, but it's very short and indistinct. The inspiration is obvious - any number of Cold War thrillers and action films include similar, vague music when showing scenes of Russia, the Soviet Union or Eastern Europe. Just of the top of my head, The Hunt for Red October, The Peacemaker are good examples.

The problem, as I see it, is that one user in particular insists that this music is actually from Darkstalkers, specifically related to the character of Jedah Dohma. When he levitates onto the screen, there is similar, indistinct chanting in the background. But there is no way to definitively identify that music with this music used in South Park. It's far too brief. The fact that the music sounds the same is an opinion, not a fact, so it cannot be confirmed simply by ear.

I have tried to remove these points from the articles and voiced my concerns on their respective talk pages, but this user doesn't want to hear me. His "evidence" is a link to videos containing the Darkstalkers music, which is irrelevant. Just because two pieces of music sound alike (which I would not even agree with in this case) I don't think it's encyclopedic to include it. South Park episode articles are already choked with "trivia" and "cultural references" as it is. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 14:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...I've tried listening, and I can't discern what language it is. Jmlk17 07:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Then again, my knowledge of Russian is exceedingly limited, Da? Jmlk17 05:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bigger, Longer & Uncut importend scale

the "top-importence" catagory contains bigger longer and uncut, yet the talkpage of bigger longer & uncut says it is midimportence. isnt htat automated in some way?· Lygophile has spoken 22:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode coverage

The WikiProject Television episode coverage taskforce have recently been working on a review process for episode articles. There are a rash of articles about individual episodes which fail notability, and are unlikely to ever reach such requirements. Many contributors are unaware of the specific guidelines to assess notability in episode pages: Wikipedia:Television episodes. We have expanded these guidelines to make them more helpful and explanatory, and we invite you to read the guidelines, and make any comments on its talk page. After much discussion, we have created a proposed review process for dealing with problem articles. See: Wikipedia:Television article review process. We invite discussion of this process on its talk page. General comments about this whole process are welcome at the episode coverage taskforce talkpage. Thanks! Gwinva 10:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Giant Monsters Attack Japan!

I've created an article for Matt and Trey's upcoming film, Giant Monsters Attack Japan!. It is in need of expert editing. If you want to help improve the article, you can discuss it on the talk page. Thank you.--Swellman 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title for Spooky Fish

Hello. I have moved the article for the episode from its previous title "Spookyfish" under the "Spooky Fish". The latest is the title that TV.com refers to. I have also corrected the references in the text and in the episode list for Season 2, as used in the infobox. I understand that this maybe is a change that will affect a lot of things, so I thought that it would be appropriate to notify you. --Dead3y3 Talk page 08:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. Don't trust tv.com. It's one word acccording to both the official website and the dvd set.--Swellman 15:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the inconvenience. I will correct all back to the one-worded title. --Dead3y3 Talk page 18:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Generally, the rule of thumb is to go by what the official website says. -- Scorpion0422 07:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inactive

This project DOES seem to be a little inactive. We should start doing some stuff to avoid a mfd. -- Scorpion0422 07:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Probably because there hasn't been anything recent going on. Once the second half of season 11 comes back on, we should be expiriencing more traffic. MITB LS 07:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Goofs"

As some of you may or may not have noticed, I have been through each episode of South Park, trying to eliminate a lot of useless Trivia which could be considered Original Research, speculation, or just plain irrelevant. However, one thing that has annoyed the crap out of me is the "goofs" bit. Unlike the Trivia bit, where some of it could be relevant, or be integrated into other things, I move to state that the goofs part is entirely irrelevant, and in no way worthy of an encyclopedia. Can mistakes of and episode be considered encyclopedic in any way? I highly doubt this, and put forward the idea of removing all "goofs" bits - if these is agreed, I will personally do it myself.

Whether or not this will include the inconsistencies with other episodes, I hope to discuss here, what I want to definitely be removed is the nonsense like "Cartman was seeing getting in the left side of the car, but he is later seen on the right", etc. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

  • I agree, there isn't any need for goofs. I think we should come up with a new guideline for episode pages that eliminates goofs and merges pop culture into trivia. Mr. GaRRiSoN 08:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Garrison (talk • contribs)

[edit] Featured Article candidate

[edit] Imaginationland

Imaginationland is going to require quite a bit of watching. Anonymous users keep added a list of every inhabitant that was in Imaginationland, blatantly ignoring WP:NOT#INFO Dlong 16:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK: South Park and Philosophy: You Know, I Learned Something Today

Updated DYK query On 21 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article South Park and Philosophy: You Know, I Learned Something Today, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai 03:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Did you know?" statistics on this WikiProject?

I was just checking to see if you all keep tracking of the "Did you know?" statistics on this WikiProject, or not, or if not, if you want to start doing that? Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 05:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Tsst is up for deletion

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tsst. 96T 21:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging of all 3 Imaginationland articles

This is a large ongoing debate: should the three episodes be merged together into one single article, or not? The discussion is located HERE. Just thought the WikiProject should know. The Chronic 02:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As I've already said, they should be merged. For my reasoning see the talk page. Go God Go and Cartoon Wars have both been merged and look at how much better they look now. I also propose merging for Do the Handicapped Go to Hell?/Probably (South Park).--Swellman 13:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Can we do something about the inhabitants of Imaginationland list? Perhaps a separate article as I have already tried to do?--Cartman005 21:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I hardly think that's necessary. Even the current list is rather unnecessary and littered with repeats. I think we need to focus on cleaning up the main article and making it more relevant before we worry about the list too much. Tweeks Coffee 22:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Numbering in lead section

I'm proposing a new way of numbering all episodes. Instead of using the chronological number or the prod code (which are shown in the infobox anyway), we should list the season number and which season it came from. For examples of articles in which this system is being used, see episode articles of the simpsons or futurama.

The problem with using chronological numbering or prod codes is that they can confuse casual readers, and can also cause arguments as to which one should be used. For examples of south park articles where his is already being used, see Trapped in the Closet (South Park).

“ "Trapped in the Closet", is the 137th episode of the Comedy Central series South Park, which originally aired on November 16, 2005. ”

—How lead sections shouldn't start.
“ "Trapped in the Closet", is episode 912 of the Comedy Central series South Park, which originally aired on November 16, 2005. ”

—How lead sections shouldn't start.
“ "Trapped in the Closet", the twelfth episode of the ninth season of the Comedy Central series South Park, originally aired on November 16, 2005. ”

—How all lead sections should start.

So, what do you all think? For or against?--Swellman 22:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parentage to Comedy WikiProject?

I was wondering if the Comedy WikiProject is a parent to this WikiProject? Is it so and it should be noted on the WikiProject? ISD 12:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of places in South Park is up for deletion

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of places in South Park 96T 19:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South Park opening sequence is up for deletion

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Park credits 96T 21:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Kenny's Deaths is up for deletion (again)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Kenny's deaths (2nd nomination) 96T (talk) 18:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

I understand that trivia is discouraged in the wikipedia standards but trivia is a big part of this show. Not everyone gets all the references and trivia helps. Is there a way to get trivia about south park back in, in a way that complies with the wiki standards.

I agree, however this issue is adressed above...and I believe that the discussion came to the right conclusion, which is that there is so much trivia that it can fill up the entire site. You understand that we would be opening up the door to trivia on over 150 episodes, the personal lives of Matt and Tray, every suptle joke, "spoting the alien", etc.

That beeing said, I believe that the realy relevent "trivia" can easily be incorperated into the page as relivent information on the show, and we can leave it to the audiance to discover the rest... you can also provide a link to a trivia site as a for more information link. you may also see if you can create pages for the realy hard hitting shows, and incorperate the facts...however I am not shure how successfull that will be.Coffeepusher 07:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to reopen this issue to discussion because I've recently been embroiled in a dispute over how to categorize the cultural references that make South Park great, see: Talk:Super Fun Time for the discussion. I can see both sides of the argument but what really aggravates me is the extremists at each end of the spectrum. On one end you've got the content Nazis who delete anything that doesn't jive with their pristine librarian mentality. On the other end you have those who bring a new meaning to the word 'trivial' with their posts to this section. I feel that the solution lies somewhere in between. I understand why Trivia sections are discouraged and South Park should be no exception, true 'trivia' should not be part of the articles. But to say that the numerous cultural references made in the show are not important to document is ridiculous. How often have you watched an episode and recognized a reference but couldn't put your finger on where it was from. Like take the epic fight scene in the Cripple Fight episode, I knew it was from a film I'd seen but couldn't place it, thankfully the wiki article had the answer because it would have driven me crazy. Are these not important details to document?
I propose defining a sub section for these kind of references that is agreeable to all. I personally prefer 'Cultural References' much more than 'Trivia' but I'm open to other suggestions. Also, some have suggested incorporating these references into the main Plot section. I disagree with this for two reasons: 1)the reference really has nothing to do with the plot...whether you get the reference or not is seldom critical to understanding the plot, and 2)if I know I'm searching for a reference I'd much rather skim a bulleted list in its own section than read a whole article. Obviously the content should be reviewed with the same scrutiny as any other piece of the article, and invalid entries, speculation and fluff should be removed. Snafu7x7 (talk) 22:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Imaginationland and Multiple Part Episodes

The South Park Project has to decide on how we want to handle multiple part episodes like Imaginationland. They should either all be seperate or merged. This is a huge debate that has been going on on the Imaginationland page. We also need to decide what to do with the list of imaginary characters in Imaginationland. There is a lot of support to keep the list though it is mostly useless trivia. I made a separate page for the list which was deleted in favor of having separate lists on each of the episodes' pages. They now go back and forth on deleting and reverting these lists.--Cartman005 15:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

my vote is to have the episodes stand on their own. they each have enough substance to fill a whole page, and we can link them together as a 1,2,3 link. imagine taking the whole series page, and just breaking it apart, and having it read as such.Coffeepusher 18:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion about multiple episodes on WT:EPISODE

Hi. A discussion on the episodes MoS is here. As an article under the project's scope is used as an example, you are encouraged to contribute. Will (talk) 15:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Cartman, Re-assessing

Can Eric_Cartman be re-assessed please as a lot of changes have been made, and I need to see if my changes are in the scope of the project. Philbuck222 (talk) 22:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indicating seperate runs within a season

Hi,

I'd like to make a new proposal. I know that South Park episodes (as episodes of any TV show) are seperated into seasons, and that's perfectly logical and nice. However, I think that there should be some indication of seperate runs within a season.

The system in which seasons of South Park are structured is basically the same since season 4, that is, there's a run of around 7-9 episodes in the interval of around March-June, and another run around October-December. The episodes within one run are created from week to week, however there is a big gap between two runs. If you notice, Matt and Trey always think about the runs differently (listen to the DVD commentaries for example); the clips shown in the background during the theme are updated with clips from the last run, etc.

I'm not saying that we should break episodes into other subsections. However, I do suggest that there should be a slight indication of the "run-break":

  • In the List of South Park episodes article, possible with a simple physical gap within the table of a season.
  • And in the season infoboxes shown at every episode. For example, on the Le Petit Tourette article, I advise that in the infobox instead of
South Park - Season 11
March 7, 2007 – November 14, 2007

it should say

South Park - Season 11
March 7, 2007 – April 18, 2007
October 3, 2007 – November 14, 2007

...because, frankly, the frequency of the episodes is really not even in an interval that big, when there is actually a six month gap between two episodes.

Please post your comments/opinions.

--Szajd (talk) 20:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can I join to?

I've loved South Park for years, so is it alright if I become a member? Goldfishsoldier (talk) 00:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [2]. --Maniwar (talk) 00:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guidelines

[edit] WP:FICT has been revised

WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live [3] Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Notability (serial works)

There is a proposal to split WP:EPISODE into a more general notability guideline, Wikipedia:Notability (serial works), and make the rest of WP:EPISODE just a MOS guideline. Please join in at WT:EPISODE#Proposed split of EPISODE and/or Wikipedia talk:Notability (serial works). -- Ned Scott 22:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Writers Block!

I'm trying to characterize cartmans relationship with Stan Kyle and Kenny, but, as I said, I have writers block. Can someone help me out? Goldfishsoldier (talk) 07:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] space or no space?

is it South Park or Southpark?♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 03:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

It is "South Park" - with the space. The Chronic 04:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The giant taco that craps ice cream & Lemmiwinks

Both of these characters satisfy the requirements for the minor character list, as stated on the South Park characters page: they have appeared in at least one episode. However, they are not on there, nor are they on the List of One-off characters, which seems to have disappeared. I notice that Lemmiwinks once had his own article, but it got redirected to The Death Camp of Tolerance. Similarly, the giant taco that craps ice cream is a redirect to Cancelled (South Park). I feel that these characters should either appear in a list or in their own articles. Either of them is easily more popular than, say, Bradley, and yet he appears in a list while they do not. Is there a good reason for this? I could add them in, if the reason is simple laziness. Thanks! Cerebellum (talk) 14:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] South Park articles for deletion

Two SP articles are currently nominated for deletion:

96T (talk) 16:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kenny Dies

Looks like the ongoing WP:AfD for this article has been withdrawn by nominator - I added some sources and a Reception section, could use a bit more expansion from coverage in other secondary sources, and also some copyediting to the plot section, but wouldn't take much for this to be a WP:GAC-worthy article. Cirt (talk) 00:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

Are there any copyright restrictions necessary for South Park episodes and pictures. I mean, the producers said they have nothing against people copying their work. diego_pmc (talk) 19:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Note, however, that at their official site the following copyright notice is displayed: SOUTH PARK ©2008 Comedy Partners. All Rights Reserved. Comedy Central, South Park and all related titles, logos and characters are trademarks of Comedy Partners. So I think this stuff is fair use. L'Aquatique[talk] 04:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RFC on WP:FICT

A request for comment has been made to determine if the Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) proposal has consensus. Since this project deals with many fictional topics, I am commenting here. Input on the proposal is welcome here. --Pixelface (talk) 01:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)