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[edit] RP-1

Copy question from RP-1: the article states that RP-1 is both considerably less powerful than liquid hydrogen, and significantly more powerful! Could somebody please make this more comprehensible to the lay wiki-crawler who knows nothing about rocket science? Thank you! (^o^)V

Less powerful per unit of mass (specific impulse), more powerful per unit of volume (higher density). That's why they use kerosene for first stages and hydrogen for upper stages. Night Gyr 23:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub?

is {{rocket-stub}} linked to this Project? If it is not, it will probably be deleted. --Circeus 18:10, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Hi, I have an infobox for Launch Vehicles which I am using for PSLV and hopefully GSLV. Please have a look and provide your inputs for improving it. --IMpbt 23:35, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Inactive - vote for merger?

Since this WikiProject seems to be inactive, I would like to suggest that it be merged with WP:Air. I for one have been making edits to many articles that are ostensibly part of this project, without even noticing its existence. The two projects are of related and overlapping scope anyhow, and really should not have been separate. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 02:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

They're not that closely related; I know the project seems to have gone "thump" recently, but I oppose merging. They really are different fields, and people who are expert in one aren't experts in the other without separate training. Georgewilliamherbert 02:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that a merger is necessary; see my parentage proposal below. Ingoolemo talk 23:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Parentage

Because of this WikiProject's inactivity, I propose changing its parentage from WP:Transport to WP:Aircraft, and encouraging members of WP:Aircraft to take part. Comments? See also the discussion of infoboxes, specs, and naming conventions below. Ingoolemo talk 01:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Launch vehicles/Standards discussion

[edit] New standards

Having given nearly three weeks for comments and received none, and done everything I could to solicit comments, I have decided that action must be taken because of the deficiencies in this project's standards, and have updated the project page with the new format. Ingoolemo talk 18:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

An example of the updated standards in action can be found at MGM-1 Matador. Ingoolemo talk 04:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Space exploration

I've started the Space exploration WikiProject, but there's nothing there right now. My hope is that we will be able impliment the article assessment that's going on at the 1.0 editoral team, as they are trying to Work via Wikiprojects. Over 100 other wikiprojects are already following suit; the articles within the scope of this project could greatly benefit from being apart of this.. thoughts? (discuss here) Mlm42 17:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article assessments

as some of you will have noticed, i've been tagging many article, under the broad topic of Space exploration, with the tag {{WP Space exploration}}. this banner has a built in assessment feature.. you can rate the articles quality (out of Stub/Start/B/GA/A/FA), and the importance (Low/Mid/High/Top). The quality has a pretty clear grading scheme, but the importance is much more subjective.

anyway, to do this, for example, add {{WP Space exploration|class=B|importance=Mid}} to the Talk page. the banner also has a link to a pretty bot generated list (update once a day, around 10am UTC) of all articles with the Space exploration tag. so feel free to help out, and tag and assess some articles. :) also, when rating an article, you may feel a desire to justify your rating; if so, a comment on the Talk page with the heading "Assessment" seems appropriate. Mlm42 09:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What goes into the {{WP Space exploration}}

Launch vehicles, telescopes, NGO's that help with space exploration? A breif summary of what goes in this wikiproject.

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 23:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Volna & Shtil'

Shtil' and Volna are different designations for the same rocket. One should be merged into the other. Please could some input be given to the discussion I have started at Talk:Volna. Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this project still active?

Is this project still active? I made the suggestion at WP:ASTRO that this project be merged into Space exploration in attempt to consolidate the inactive and duplicative projects. What does everyone think? Lunokhod 13:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I would be tempted to move it to Wikipedia:WikiProject rockets. This could cover all types of rockets - Sounding rockets, LVs, missiles, Carrier rockets (British/Russian/German LVs), etc. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Major Orbital-Launch Rocket Families

I would like to do some work organizing the articles that relate to "major orbital-launch rocket families", defined as:

  • the family has at least two major versions sharing a common ancestry (e.g. manufacturer) and name (or part of name)

and:

  • the family has had 10 or more successful launches, with at least one of them a launch to orbit

and:

  • the family has at least one vehicle being planned or prepared for a future launch

Examples of families included: Delta, Titan, Atlas, Proton, Ariane, Soyuz, Saturn, Long March, H-II, Zenit, etc.

Examples of families excluded: Falcon, Space Shuttle, Redstone, R-7, etc.

Currently, the lead article often covers the entire family (e.g. Ariane rocket) but sometimes the name of the first member of the family is somewhat misleading (e.g. Atlas (missile)). The work I want to do involves renaming lead articles for each of these to some consistent form, e.g. following the example of Titan (rocket family). Specific instances would thus include Ariane (rocket family) and Long March (rocket family).

Another approach would be to create a new article, e.g. , leaving Atlas (missile) as the article covering the first version(s), and moving much of the material there to a newly created Atlas (rocket family) article.

The scope of this work is fairly large, but it will hopefully give the collection of articles covering these launch vehicles a more encyclopedic (not to mention consistent) feel.

Comments, anyone? Sdsds 00:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Why exclude R-7? Meus Nomen 11:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The proposal has already been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Space/Reorganisation#Rocketry. The basic proposal is to move this project to Wikipedia:WikiProject Rocketry to increase and clarify its scope. Please post comments and support/oppose votes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Space/Reorganisation. Thanks --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Implemented --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 18:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Delta-v (physics) for deletion

Delta-v (physics) has been nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delta-v (physics). A suggestion has been made to perhaps merge with Delta-v, the orbital dynamics article. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 22:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redo this project?

Is this still an inactive project? I'm wondering if there is enough interest to have this project re-done as a aviation project task force. To take a sampling of articles that link to {{Infobox Missile}}, V-2 rocket and AGM-65 Maverick are currently tagged under the Military history project (just like (B-17 Flying Fortress). Perhaps is should be a shared task force with them, just like the Military aviation task force. Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 19:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that if we have to move this to a task force, it would be better to remain as part of WP:SPACE. Perhaps some form of sharing would be a good idea, though, with WP:SPACE being the main parent. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems that WP:AVIATION would also be a likely parent project... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.85.177 (talk) 05:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rocket name cleanup

I have proposed a large number of moves and other changes to clean up the mess that is caused by the lack of any accepted disambiguation standard for rocket articles. The proposal is located at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rocketry/Titles --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 08:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)