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I would note the following:

  • A company's business model is a major source of criticism (e.g. importing from China → criticism about wages in China) so the criticism section should be just below the "business model" section.
  • The philanthropy section should immediately follow, and should not need to be the same size. NPOV &neq; equal time for each POV. Criticism responses should be in the criticism section - for example "(criticism about wages in China → claims that the wages are actually quite good for the Chinese)" - which clearly does not belong in the philanthropy section.
  • As is standard on Wikipedia, External links is seperate from Further Reading.

Yours, r3m0t talk 09:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I have made changes based off of what you have suggested. The External links vs. Further reading thing I got from WP:CITE#Further reading/external links, which suggests that it doesn't matter since you can read both printed and online material anyways. I suppose it would only matter depending on how many non-referenced works are listed in the article, and the personal style preference of the editor. Tuxide 23:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Newsletter just a little over the top

I think that the newsletter to the user talk pages is just a tad over the top. Here's why: most people who are involved in the project will have the page watchlisted, and therefore will be able to follow a newsletter posted to the project's talk page. Thoughts? SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

If we were to do another newsletter, should we make the user talk page thing opt-in, I suppose? I had no intention of doing another one unless we really want it or it was absolutely necessary, since bored people leave quickly. I got the idea from User:Caldorwards4's talk page, since he's the one that's subscribed to such a service. If you really want to know, I pulled off a September one primarily because I needed a quick and dirty way to streamline information for the first time, and it was easy for me to send it without using a bot since I was only messaging four people, excluding myself. What I am interested in knowing is, do we really want to keep it? This is open to feedback. Regards, Tuxide 04:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Opt-in, or just ditch it entirely for posting to user talk pages. I have no problem with the newsletter. I just think that here is a better place for it than in the user talk page. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Now that I think about it, opt-out might be better since anonymous users don't have watchlists. You can't take advantage of something that you don't know about, but then again that is the justification that all other spam uses. Oh well, for whoever it bothers (if any), you have my permission to remove the one I posted yesterday from your own talk page. Tuxide 04:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I've just noticed that WP:WPTC has an option that allows users to either be notified when a newsletter becomes available, or to have the whole newsletter be sent to them. There is also a mailing list. Tuxide 00:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
On a similar note, have you thought about making a template in the Wikipedia namespace (like as a subpage for the project) for users to place in their user space? This could be similar to what The Wikipedia Signpost does with their {{signpost-subscription}} template. This would allow users who subscribe to see it right on their userpages, and would probably be a lot less cumbersome to update. SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Like User:Tuxide/Sandbox/retailing-subscription or would rationale instead of a list of links be more useful? Tuxide 20:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
What you came up with seems to work. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Done, all I have to do is move it into another namespace and put some instructions for posting. I've also created another page called Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Noticeboard so other members can post their own notices as they wish (for example, links to discussions concerning major edits that need attention, etc.). As far as User:Tuxide/Sandbox/retailing-subscription, I am planning on moving it into the Template namespace unless anyone objects. Tuxide 16:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
{{retailing-subscription}} is now available. Tuxide 05:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRC

Any of you use IRC (particularly freenode)? I don't know if any of you are interested, but you can usually find me on the #wikipedia channel. We could have a channel for our WikiProject Retailing, too. Tuxide 05:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] October 2006 newsletter

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061001 newsletter for October, although something needs to be put into it! Hrm... Now is your opportunity to put something in here and make your voice heard to the rest of the WikiProject. Feel free to edit it as you see fit, for real life is keeping me busy (university studies). When it's done, a link to it should go onto Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Noticeboard. Regards, Tuxide 06:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Last call for additions/edits made to Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061001 newsletter. If nothing else, I will post it tonight.

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061101 newsletter for November, just as before. Again, its content is open for anyone to decide upon. I am quite busy in college, and I don't know if I'll have the time I need to add to this before the start of November. Regards, Tuxide 19:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061201 newsletter for December, like the other two. If somebody could, please fill the newsletter with content for the time being. It is dead week in my university, so I probably won't be able to write one until after my finals next week. Regards, Tuxide 02:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shopping malls

Should shopping malls be covered under this project? They are covered under WikiProject Architecture, but most malls are composed of a group of retailers in the same area for convenience. Plus articles on individual shopping malls wikilink to articles under this project such as Macy's. --Geopgeop 08:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think so, some of the more interesting shopping malls (such as Southdale Center) were started by retailing companies. Also, Category:Shopping malls is a subcategory of Category:Retailers. Tuxide 00:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Geisse

Dear Tuxide, Thank you for your article on John F. Geisse. I updated it a bit. Rowley's book is fairly good on Target but she failed to get the inside true story on Dad. I've sent her the corrections but no update as yet. Discount Store News Markowitz (the late) was very accurate in his history of discount stores......look for 25th anniversay material circa 1987. His work was encyclopedic and Dad said very accurate. Thomas Geisse —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tjgtjg (talk • contribs).

Thought I would add that Thomas Geisse is still editing his father's article. Tuxide (talk) 12:09, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New WikiProject Retailing template

I have designed a new boilerplate for WikiProject Retailing based on what is usually found on talk pages. This one is the same size as the other boilerplates. New features include a warning when not placed on talk pages or the Wikipedia namespace, and a small parameter, when set to yes it makes a smaller version of itself suitable for talk pages with a plethora of templates on them. Some also have this small feature, like {{FACfailed}}. The sec parameter is still there also. The reason I made this is to make it more standardized and to make it easily expandable in case this WikiProject gets called upon to do that assessment thing. This isn't our official boilerplate yet, so feel free to comment on it. Regards, Tuxide 08:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit: Removed redlink, the template is now our official one. Tuxide 05:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] So busy/newsletter

Sorry I've been terribly busy in college this semester. Spring break is next week; I'll try to write a newsletter to catch up from the beginning of the year. Much has happened in this WikiProject since this year started. Tuxide 01:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Myer

Anyone else feel the list of stores is unnecessary Nil Einne 16:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've started discussion on Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Listings of former locations a couple days ago. In my opinion it's more like a style problem opposed to whether it's notable; WP:CORP states that a list of Wal-Marts in China could be informative. Tuxide 18:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page

As of today, Wikipedia's main page has this on it:

Picture of the day
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Aisles of packaged food in a Fred Meyer hypermarket in Portland, Oregon. A hypermarket is a combination of a supermarket and a department store, and the Fred Meyer chain is one of the pioneers of the hypermarket format in the United States. Kroger, which owns Fred Meyer, is the top grocery retailer and the third largest general retailer in the country.

Photo credit: Lyza Danger
Archive – More featured pictures...

Tuxide 06:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New page

I just created this page for any Retailing articles that need expert attention. If you think a page needs attention, please add it. TenPoundHammer 01:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Fashion

A new WikiProject, called WikiProject Fashion was created last month and I was asked by them to introduce it here. Many articles within our scope about retailers and private label brands also fit within their scope: I view the difference between the two projects being that our approach is to illustrate the impact of these retailers from a business perspective, while their approach is to illustrate the impact of these retailers from a social perspective. You might've seen articles about department stores become categorized under Category:Clothing retailers, Category:Fashion (which became too big of a category), etc. Much discussion exists on their talk page about further categorizing articles about retailers, and suggests our involvement/comment. Regards, Tuxide 21:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Tuxide asked me to explain here what this project could do to help ours. Well, right now, just look at any article that's tagged for both projects (clothing retailers and major US department store chains, mainly, at the moment) and make sure that it's good from a retailing perspective (i.e., good discussion of the chain from a business perspective) while we'll try to get something in there about the impact on fashion (A good example of a chain where there's something to write from both perspectives: The Gap, which I just moved to this project).

We've also got some articles on influential single boutiques like Biba where, if someone has some knowledge from the retail side that could be added, should be. Daniel Case 05:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Another area of overlap is with biographical articles about people like Stanley Marcus, the late CEO of Neiman Marcus, who was a pioneer in fashion retailing. Lawikitejana 01:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need an infobox?

It would be good if there were an infobox template for biographies of retailing CEOs. (See Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography for info on similar infoboxes.) Lawikitejana 01:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

I've created a userbox for WP:RETAIL at Template:User WikiProject Retailing. Cheers! WODUP 03:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shopping centre anchors

Over at Wikiproject Shopping Centres, there has been some discussion on tenant and anchor lists. Thoughts and comments would be most appreciated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shopping Centers#Anchors and tenants. Thanks. Skeezix1000 18:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fisher's Big Wheel

Just letting y'all know about a newly created page on Fisher's Big Wheel. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 05:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletions

  • 27 September 2007 - expires 2 October
Food Pyramid (grocery store) (via WP:PROD)
History of House of Fraser (via WP:PROD)
--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 20:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • 26 September 2007 - expires 1 October
Walter Wilson (via WP:PROD)

[edit] Resolved

Frank Westwood (via WP:PROD on 2007-09-30) Deleted


[edit] RSS feed

I just realized that an RSS feed existed for Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Retailing/Articles now, for those who like to watch pages related to WP:RETAIL without actually having to go to this website or populating your watchlist. I don't know when they made that addition to MediaWiki, but it's about time. Tuxide (talk) 02:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article nominee: Stanley Marcus

I have two requests:

    1. editors to further improve the article
    2. editors to review the article

Stanley Marcus is a major figure in the history of retail, and it would be appropriate for the article on him to reach Good Article status — on the way to Featured, of course. Please note that to date I have been unable to find a noncopyrighted photo of Marcus to use, though in the section about one of his books, I was able to make fair use of a book jacket that has his photo on the cover. I want to make sure we don't use an image that will get pulled, as that can drag an article down. Thanks for your assistance! Lawikitejana (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)