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This is the talk page for WikiProject Redirect. Please feel free to create a sub-page in order to branch out from this page if you wish to create a new proposal. If you do so, please leave a comment here so that other editors know of its existence!

[edit] New proposals

I have made two new proposals and will put them on the following sub-page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect/Format and categorization proposals. Please drop a line there and let me know what you think! \sim Lenoxus " * " 17:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] New meta-template(s) idea

Lately, I've become involved with the notion of a "standard" redirect template. The latest mix of ideas I've hit upon, while possibly workable, are just a little beyond my proficiency with wikicode.

Basically, here's what I've got in mind: Imagine two templates, hypothetically called {{R reasons}} and {{R also}}, into which other R templates, plus user-input text, can be included as parameters. (If it's possible for those templates to contain "alternate versions", then this could remove the redundancy of seeing "This is a redirect" over and over, and reduce the number of typed braces.) I'm imagining that such templates would be collapsible, like {{WikiProjectBanners}} and {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}. They would be used in addition to a header template perhaps called RDR.

A hypothetical example of what I'm talking about: typing {{rdr}} {{r reasons|(target title)|abbreviation|tense|also='''Custom reason''': Custom.}} {{r also|disambiguation|also='''Custom''': Custom.}} would produce something like:

This is a redirect from (page title) (the redirecting page) to (target title) (the target page).
This redirect exists for the following reasons:

Abbreviation: The name of the target page can be abbreviated with the name of the redirecting page.

Tense: The name of the target page is in a different tense from that of the redirecting page — for example, it is a gerund.

Custom reason: Custom.
Things to note about this redirect:

Disambiguation: The target is a disambiguation page. Links to this redirect should specifically refer to a disambiguation page; any other links should be de-linked, removed, or tagged with {{Disambiguation needed}}

Custom: Custom.

Does anyone feel up to the task of producing such a template? Are there any suggestions to tweak what I've put forth? Feel free to display any potential versions of this template here… thanks! \sim Lenoxus " * " 19:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks to be an excellent idea, although the first template [rdr] seems unnecessary on the main redirect page, as the arrow already there makes it obvious that it is a redirect. The second & third templates look excellent, however, and would certainly help [standardisation = Good ThingTM]. The current set of redirect templates is growing out of control, and this would also allow multiple reasons to be appended to one redirect. I think this deserves more eyeballs, so I'll put it on the Proposals pump [hope you don't mind] to gain wider consensus. Oh, and I will make that template as an example for the proposal, and I am also willing to add them to redirects using my slave AWB account if this gains momentum. RichardΩ612 Ɣ ɸ 19:56, May 18, 2008 (UTC)

I have created a prototype template here. It contains options for the three reasons here [abbrev, tense & other] using {{ambox}} [as all mainspace templates should, really]. It can easily be expanded to fit other reasons but has only these three for testing purposes. RichardΩ612 Ɣ ɸ 21:02, May 18, 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion - change "This page is ..." to "The title of this page is ..." throughout the template. --Russ (talk) 20:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I have made a few changes to my prototype and incorporated the 'this is a redirect' section. Comments? RichardΩ612 Ɣ ɸ 14:11, May 24, 2008 (UTC)