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[edit] Podcasts?

Would they count under our project? DrWho42 19:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Since we include internet radio, I don't see why podcasts couldn't be. --PhantomS 20:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WEGO at AfD

An article that you have been involved in editing, WEGO, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WEGO. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --Eastmain 06:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Which is preferred?

In the event that a set of callsigns are assigned to both an FM and AM station, which article title style is preferred -- WXXX-FM or WXXX (FM)? I'm working on Michigan radio stations, and have found that there is no consistency at all, and am curious if there is a consensus as to which is preferred so I may proceed. Thanks! JPG-GR 07:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The preferred format is WXXX (FM). --PhantomS 08:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JPG-GR (talk • contribs) 17:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

First of all, if you look up the FCC query for WKFR-FM in Kalamazoo, Michigan -- it reads WKFR-FM not WKFR... It is only fair that you use the official call letters with the suffix!!! Wouldn't you agree??? --WIKISCRIPPS 07 THU JAN 18 2007 9:24 PM EST

Oh and by the way I oppose the move!!! --WIKISCRIPPS 07 THU JAN 18 2007 9:32 PM EST

The Radio Stations Wikiproject established the conventions for station titles. If you disagree with the formatting of radio station article titles, I would post the complaint to their project's talk page as well. --PhantomS 02:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Since the radio station wikiproject's page was less than clear on the whole matter, I rewrote it. It should now, hopefully, be entirely comprehensible. --PhantomS 20:36, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, with the rewrite, I have to retract my previous blanket statement and actually say that the suffix depends upon whether the -FM is included in the official call sign. --PhantomS 06:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration of the Week-1/21/07 to 1/27/07

I nominate the Radio article. We should be able to get it up to at least good article status within a week. --PhantomS 20:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible article for inclusion on its talkpage for your banner (Mark Simone)

Hello, I am a member of several other projects and recently came across Mark Simone's article because of changes made to another article I watch that his links to. Normally I would follow Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages and be bold in adding your banner to this radio announcer/DJ but wanted your okay first. I do not belong to your project (meaning I don't watch your page (as I have over 620 pages I currently watch) but will see your change if you approve on his talkpage. Cheers, Ronbo76 06:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I should join your project too. I remember some of the golden old radio days listening to Roy Rogers, Gene Autry along with personalities like Steve Allen, Vin Scully, Don Drysdale etal. Those just some old radio names from the gone by L.A. days. Please consider those personalities too who don't have your project tag.

And, if your project wants to be bold and put its banner on my userpage, I would not object (if one is available). Otherwise I will do it in about a week or so. Ronbo76 07:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Please sign the participants list on the project page and place {{User WikiProject Radio}} on your user page if you are interested in joining the project. --PhantomS 07:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, this project has only been around since about December. Therefore, there are many radio articles that still need to be tagged with {{WikiProject Radio}}. In addition, there are many that are tagged, which need to be classified. --PhantomS 07:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
OOOhhh, can I do it like they used to do on What's My Line? Man, oh man that was a hard one on radio. Let's see, Dick Enberg, Jerry Doggett, . . . more baseball radio greats will come to me. What's My Line has no tag? Horrors! Ronbo76 07:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi ho, Silver, away!

Oh Cisco, I think man with smart friend wants to see you. I'm in. Jerry Doggett is too. This one's one is for you, Dad! Thanks for the Memories you gave me as a kid. Ronbo76 09:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Add California radio stations

After I run an errand, I will begin to add California radio stations like KFI to our project. I have rated articles before for another project I am part of. My normal standard is that I will not rate above a B class, Low importance to avoid overinflating the ratings.

I have reviewed the guidelines for rating. In some cases upon looking at an article, I agree with its present rating; in others I disagree but do not reassess unless I feel I am on certain ground. On an article that is no longer a Stub article, that is an easy upgrade to Start. I will review each article prior to putting the project tag on it and placing an assessment.

I will start with KFI and move up the Northern California valley. Cheers, Ronbo76 17:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Radio stations are handled by our descendant project WikiProject Radio Stations. Essentially, the radio wikiproject handles everything that doesn't deal with radio stations or amateur radio (another descendant project). --PhantomS 20:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that after I made the edit and waited for a reply before adding more stations. I will review and remove it if it is still there. I have added a small number of broadcasters from the Socal region. It is amazing that some of these bios do not have talkpage with any bio or project tags. Ronbo76 01:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Any one know the subject of this article (Bill Cherry)

I noticed this article because of some odd edits on another page I watch. I did a search on the person but cannot find any references. All the edits are coming from the creator and an anonymous IP who I believe is also the article creator. Ronbo76 03:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaii Calls radio program

I wanted to let this WikiProject know about a new article I created on the Hawaii Calls radio program which ran from 1935 through 1975 and supposedly was one of the most listened to radio shows in the world at some point in time. The article links to a few articles here and there but is mostly hidden away. If any of you can improve it, please do.-BiancaOfHell 12:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] February 11, 2007 additions to this project - gold mine in Monitor (NBC Radio)

I was going through Monitor (NBC Radio) and found a number of radio personalities who are not in this project. I should be done adding most of the names by later today. I wish I had thought to indicate which articles included a picture of the person speaking into a radio mike. It is kind of neat to see some of the old time photos of announcers/singers/etc addressing a radio mike. Might be nice to make a gallery of those pics. Ronbo76 22:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we don't have these photos to display. Hopefully, someone has these photos in a collection or knows how to find them, in order to solve that problem. --PhantomS 22:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Depending on where the photos are stored, they could be moved to a gallery on Wikimedia Commons. It is just a matter of setting up a category there and then creating/moving/adding photos (either as links or the picture itself). I have an account there but not too sure on all the mechanics. Here is a great example of an article already in our project. I just read Clifton Fadiman who has a pic at the mike. Fadiman's picture is stored here on Wikimedia. The best place is to copy this picture to Wiki Commons. Surely (Don't call me Shirley), someone smarter than me knows how to do this. If the photos are already on Wiki Commons, it is just a matter of adding the category to the picture and then it links to our gallery.
Here is one gallery Marin County gallery that I am familiar with from another project. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ronbo76 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
I don't think that the images are on any of the Wikipedia servers. In addition, I think most of them would probably be fair use, which would prevent them from being uploaded to commons. --PhantomS 23:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Howard Stern Show assessment

An assessment of the Howard Stern Show has been requested on the assessment page. --PhantomS 04:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I would rate it, B, Mid which is my highest grade. Ronbo76 04:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I would as well. There are some copyedit problems, missing references, and the structure needs some work. --PhantomS 06:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation. If the suggested improvements are implemented, it should easily rise to A Status. Maybe, even High. Ronbo76 21:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] todo list updated

The todo list has been update. Project members please add it to your watchlist. By the way, there is a new peer review department. --PhantomS 06:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I wonder how many articles in the Category:American radio personalities have our tag

Just got to thinking that as I stroked along adding radio personalities. I should check for the radio. Looking at Bob Hope, who I just added to our project, he has this category. I bet some of the articles in the Category:American radio personalities do not have our project tag. Ronbo76 05:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frequency of optimum transmission

In reviewing a batch of articles for Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Articles, I came across the above article which needs improvement. I noticed it is in Category:Radio frequency propagation and that you have put this cat into your project, so I bring the matter to your attention. I'll do what I can but it is subject I know little of. I also checked a few of the articles in that cat and found a lot that are in the Physics Project but not in your Project. --Bduke 02:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clear Channel Question

There are some of Clear Channel radio stations that are now under "BT Triple Crown Merger Co." (a private company that is pretty much still Clear Channel), should I put the merger company name in small italics under Clear Channel or just put Clear Channel and leave it at that? Many thanks...SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 03:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eddie Cantor as an addition to this project

Eddie Cantor had a substantial radio career. But, to some, he is controversial for his blackface appearances. Still, since he has article here on Wikipedia, and since Wikipedia is not censored, I would like consensus before adding him to this project. Ronbo76

We don't censor on wikipedia. If he was involved with radio, he should be tagged as a radio bio. Controversies with black face, etc. do not prevent a subject from falling into the project's scope; I even think Olivier wore black face at one time. --PhantomS 23:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Must have missed your reply. I will add him if no one else has. Ronbo76 15:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Dog gone it! Someone beat me to him! ;-) I would rated him B Class, Priority Low. Ronbo76
None of the sections look developed. --PhantomS 16:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Podcasting

While searching through categories, I noticed there was a WikiProject Podcasting. I do not know how active the project is, but I guess they should be handling podcasts instead of us. --PhantomS 15:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leonard Lopate

Hello. I recently uploaded a free use image of radio host Leonard Lopate to the Wikimedia Commons and I placed it in his article. I'm using the Celebrity Infobox. Is there a more appropriate one? I thought I would alert you guys and maybe you could spiff it up.-BillDeanCarter 19:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I added an {{Infobox Radio presenter}} to the article on March 21. --PhantomS 04:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General problem with sourcing of talk show articles

I've been noticing that many articles about tlak shows, even long ones, have few or no sources. For example: List of Ron and Fez Show characters, Ron and Fez, John and Ken, etc. While these shows occasionally make the news, they otherwise receive little 3rd party coverage. Aside from deleting 99% of the material as unverifiable, what else can we do? -Will Beback · † · 03:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Basic information about the hosts and their show can typically be found on the show's official website. The news and radio station's website can be used as sources as well. --PhantomS 04:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but those sources seem to only cover about 1% of the material in the articles, such as the names of the hosts, the airtimes, and maybe a few other details. Some of these articles run into thousands of words. -Will Beback · † · 05:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I would probably cite what can be cited and put {{fact}} tags on information that you can't find sources for. --PhantomS 02:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old-time radio task force

Any editors interested in starting an old-time radio task force? It is a badly neglected part of wikipedia. --PhantomS 02:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arlington Time Signal

I was surprised to find that there was no article about the Arlington Time Signal. It may not be a very broad topic, but it is one of the earliest wide-reaching and well-known radio services. Is there enough information to create an entry?--Drvanthorp 05:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

The only information I've been able to find about it is in United States Naval Observatory. If you have more information than that, perhaps you can either add to that article or create a separate article. --PhantomS 00:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: UK radio and radio stations task force

I originally started a debate at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#Proposal: UK Radio stations task force regarding starting a task force for UK radio stations. I have since changed the idea and instead of basing the proposal at Wikiproject Radio Stations, I wish to expand it into covering the radio industry of the UK as well as radio stations, which operates differently to the American model and base it as part of WikiProject Radio instead. Discussion on this topic is currently here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#New proposal: UK radio and radio stations task force. --tgheretford (talk) 16:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You might want to try posting to the user talk pages of ISD, DoctorWho42, AxG, and Marbles. --PhantomS 00:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I've already said I'm for it. ISD 06:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

The UK radio task force (also covering radio stations in the UK) is now live at Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio/UK Radio --tgheretford (talk) 13:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Radio Article Names

In looking over the names of radio series that have been disambiguated, the choice of tag varies widely, depending on the contributor. I've seen (Radio), (Radio series), (Radio show), and (Radio program). IMHO, we need to standardize this. I propose just using the (Radio) tag. If there is more than one radio show by that name, maybe the year of the first air date can be used to differentiate. Ex: (1945 Radio) (1953 Radio). Anyone have any objections to standardizing radio show names this way? By the way, I think the (Radio) tag should be used for radio personalities as well. --PhantomS 00:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appeal for help from interested parties

On my watchlist I have over 1100 pages to which I have contributed--from a single comma to full articles. During the past two years I have uploaded hundreds of popular culture images, making daily uploads at times. Some of these pictures are the result of hours of searching in order to find the perfect and relevant image.

Over 700 of these images have been designated as needing fair use rationale and will vanish from Wikipedia in a few days simply because there's no way I can add rationales to that many pages in a week's time. What is needed is a team of people dedicated to saving this material from banishment by adding fair use rationales. Please help if you can. Thanks. Here is a link that shows what is about to vanish from Wikipedia. Pepso 05:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of U.S. radio programs

I have now completed providing images and copy for all shows listed under the letter "A" in the List of U.S. radio programs. Does anyone want to do the letter "B"? Pepso2 13:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of old-time radio programs

I have now completed providing images and copy for all shows listed under the letter "A" in the List of old-time radio programs. Does anyone want to do the letter "B"? Pepso2 20:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have much time during the summer to work on creating articles. In addition, I know very little about many of the shows listed. However, I can probably help improve articles with corrections/appropriate external links. --PhantomS 21:33, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US radio templates

I was looking at the templates that show radio stations across the US, and was considering trying to make them uniform. I already did most of the NY radio templates, and was looking for some feedback before I continue. Any thoughts? Smokizzy (talk) 03:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Someone has been making changes and those changes have been leaving the templates listed in all of the station categories. Please use the 'includeonly' tag. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updates (Rush Limbaugh)

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Updates (Rush Limbaugh), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Important warning: fair use rationales for radio logos

Be warned that fair use rationales with have got be full, complete and watertight. I have had a contribution speedily deleted under CSD#I6 under WP:NFCC#10c, even though it had this rationale, which I thought would cover it. I have also had an official warning for the text below on the aforementioned contribution:

  1. It is a logo of a pay television service which cannot be described in prose;
  2. There is no free alternative available;
  3. The logos inclusion to the article is paramount as it was the subject of a major advertising campaign;
  4. It is a low resolution image of the logo;
  5. It is a historically significant episode and logo of British Sky Broadcasting.

I have not come across a radio logo image which has as much as this, and it is likely that all of these are likely for deletion. If you have updated anything, make sure it is watertight and complete, and add as much information as you can. Seems paranoia about copyright is creeping in. --tgheretford (talk) 10:28, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I fixed that rationale see [1] you had the wrong page listed in the rationale. βcommand 14:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question [about public radio]

I thought I'd pop by here and ask this, 'cause I expect it's the best place for it. Is there (I couldn't find it) a WikiProject for Public Radio? I'm just sort of castin' out a line to see if I can snag anyone that would be interested in it. Perhaps a task force . . . something along those lines? Into The Fray T/C 01:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] [year] in radio articles

While looking at the problematic KTLK-FM article, I noticed that it is using internal Wikipedia article links to things like 2006_in_radio, creating an implication that the other article is source for the factual statement being presented. However, the article pointed to has *no* sources at all (except for the deaths section), and therefore is not a reliable source. You can't create a reliable source by pointing to another wikipedia article that has no source. The lack of sources implies that this is either original research or material being taken from another published source (possibly a copyright issue).

This needs to be stopped in its tracks before it becomes pervasive in the radio articles. Each item in the Year in Review article should have an inline source that meets Wikipedia's verifiable reliable source standard, and the the radio station articles should directly cite the actual source, not the other wikipedia article. (see the 2006 article on Deaths for the correct way to do this). Wikipedia is not a radio "fan site".

Also, Wikipedia is intended for a global audience. It appears that all of the entries in these pages are events in radio in the United States, which is not appropriate. The article should be Year in Radio in the United States, or a more concerted effort to recruit information about radio in all countries. Whether a global article of all events in radio in all countries will be useful is something that should be discussed - frankly, these pages look appropriate to an almanac, not an encyclopedia.StreamingRadioGuide 00:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Programming Commissioning

I think (though I might be wrong) that I've found a significant gap in Wikipedia's coverage of media organizations. I'm just sampling opinion at relevant WikiProjects to see if someone more informed has any ideas. The process of commissioning content for television and radio networks is an important one, with commissioning editors being notable media figures. The process affects the people who write and produce media content, as well as the commercial fortunes of the networks. Balances have to be made between artistic and commercial considerations, audience demographics (e.g. commissioning shows designed to attract younger or more affluent viewers), and in some circumstances, public service commitments. Should there be an article on this subject that explains details like how a show gets commissioned (who has to persuade whom? Are formats prepared to a brief specified by the network? What sort of test-screening or pilot schemes can be used to test a show's viability?), what the role of a commissioning editor is (I'm guessing they aren't in charge of scheduling a show... in multi-channel companies, can they even decide which channel it should be broadcast on? Is the tendency for different channels to have separate commissioning editors? Are commissioning editors' roles generally field-specific e.g. "Controller of Drama Commissioning", "Commissioning Editor for Factual Entertainment"? Presumably they have to work within the budget allocated to their area by their network, but do they have leeway to negotiate prices when trying to secure content or does that have to be authorized from higher up the company? Who becomes a commissioning editor anyway, and what is it the stepping stone to?), and what are the differences in the process between organizations with their own production facilities and those that rely on external independent producers - I presume the pitching process works differently? How do networks decide on when to re-commission a series? (In the middle of its run or at its end? Is it tied in to the advertising cycle that exists in some countries? In a first season of a show, are only the first few episodes commissioned in case it bombs, with an expectation that the rest of the season will be commissioned if they fare well?) Are there any particularly notable re-commissioning decisions? (I know that the re-commissioning of the original Star Trek for its final season, after an initial cancellation, only came after a major fan campaign - I'm sure such fan campaigns aren't unusual, but how is such a success rare?) As a general rule, how long after an original show is commissioned is that show actually ready to air? These are all questions I don't know the answers to, but I think Wikipedia should address them somewhere. Should there be an article at programming commissioning, commissioning editor or commissioning director that covers this sort of thing? So that replies gather in a central place, it's probably a good idea to post any thoughts at Talk:Commission where I wrote at first. I hope my query makes sense! TheGrappler 08:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shortwave listening

I did a bit of needed restructuring and content development. Drop by shortwave listening and add comments or improvements. - LuckyLouie 01:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Radio logo

Lots of radio station logs lack fair use rationales. They have therefore been tagged for deletion. They are included in this list User:East718/DFUI/Logos, usually under the station call letters. Please help out by writing rationales for those images that are appropriate for inclusion. MBisanz talk 19:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mistress Carrie prodded

The article Mistress Carrie (about a Boston radio announcer) has been prodded, and I'm uncertain whether it meets the notability standards for radio personalities, even though an award is mentioned. I would be grateful if an expert could look at the article and either improve it or confirm that it ought to be prodded by adding a {{Prod-2}}. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 05:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Stephanie Miller Show

Hi, I was adding some cleanup tags to The Stephanie Miller Show and I noticed that it's not included in any radio projects. Shinerunner (talk) 03:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion sorting

Wikiproject Deletion sorting now has a new subpage for radio related deletions - Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Radio. the wub "?!" 19:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject Radio: Articles of unclear notability

Hello,

there are currently 11 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 12 March 2008 and may be slightly outdated.)

I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability.

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting a page to be added to the project

How does one do that, as I would like to suggest Student Radio Awards is added to the project

Barry Carlyon (talk) 19:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ripple Windmill, Ringwould

I've added Ripple Windmill, Ringwould to the radio project as it was used for some years as a TV relay station. I expect it would have relayed radio waves too. If this is incorect, please remove. Please check the categories for this article ad adjust as necessary - this is outside ny area of expertise. Mjroots (talk) 15:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)