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Capitalization

There has been some discussion regarding changing the recommendations for common-name capitalization to better match what some users feel is the style found in the scientific literature and other sources. You may wish to view the discussion or participate at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (fauna). — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. However, WP:PRIM will continue to capitalize. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Naming of populations

Should the article name of a population be the species name with the population name in parenthese, for example Horse (American population), or should they get their own unique name, for example American horse? KimvdLinde 08:14, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Guyanan Red Howler

While trying to find information about this howler in order to create a stub for it I discoverd that its existence as a seperate species seems controversial. The best overview [1] of the howler controversy I can find doesn't even mention A. Macconnelli KalevTait 03:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

That ref is dated 1999. Groves separated macconelli from seniculus in 2001 (Primate Taxonomy, pags 178-184 for the genus). Also, insulanus is a synonym for macconelli. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Greater Bamboo Lemur

I've added a stub for it, but it still needs a binomial_authority, a picture and a wikispecies link, none of which I'm sure how to go about. KalevTait 17:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Again, Groves split it off from Hapalemur to be monotypic in Prolemur. I've updated the taxobox accordingly, adding the authorities. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:58, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Ack! Maybe I should get myself a copy of the book :p KalevTait 20:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Neanderthal at WP:AID

I have nominated the Neanderthal article at WP:AID, and invite everyone of you, to improve this article (not just vote for it). It would be a great feature article. I would like to make it clear, due to some controversies at WP:AID that I believe that there is nothing wrong in advertising this nomination here, being this the WikiProject Primates, it seems the best place to solicite help and not just votes. Thank you. --Francisco Valverde 13:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

References

It seems like a natural standard reference to add is this definitive work on lemurs: Russell Mittermeier et al., Lemurs of Madagascar, Conservation International (1994) Anlace 23:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Sure, as long as you note that it is over ten years old and don't use it as a taxonomic reference. Lots of changes since then. Mammal Species of the World 3rd ed (2005) is the most recent taxonomy. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Phylogeny images

If people need images of a phylogeny based on articles that they have found, but can not copy due to copyright issues, I can make them on request. Kim van der Linde at venus 04:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you give an example? - UtherSRG (talk) 09:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Sure, Image:Cockatoos.jpg or Image:Psittacula.jpg. I could also use all kind of different forms. Kim van der Linde at venus 09:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


Taxonomical splitting

Awful lot of former subspecies was split. How it is substaniated? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.152.84.114 (talk • contribs) .

By various different processes and authors and scientists over many years. See (2005-11-16) in Wilson, D. E., and Reeder, D. M. (eds): Mammal Species of the World, 3rd edition, Johns Hopkins University Press. ISBN 0-801-88221-4. 

. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

List of apes

As mentioned in the above project talk page, currently the list only appears to include great apes. IMHO either it needs to be expanded or at least the opening paragraph re-worked (I appreciate there may not be many famous lesser apes but we should at least mention that it is intended to include all apes so people trying to add to it don't get confused). Or alternatively, we should rename it. Nil Einne 21:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I would say that there should be a very brief explanation that gibbons don't tend to get famous. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I recently expanded the article on Sam (orangutan) who was in the film Dunston Checks In. He and his mate and son now live in a wonderful non-proft habitat. Perhaps other members could generate an article on the non-proft? ThanksLiPollis 06:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for another wikiproject

I was thinking of starting a wikiproject for anthropology. Is anyone interested? Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 11:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I just made a proposal on the "list of proposed wikiprojects" page. If you're interested, you can sign up at our entry and on the temporary project page. Thanks. Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 21:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Descendant wikiproject: human evolution

I floated the idea of another wikiproject over at the Evolutionary Biology project, but there has been no response. Here might be a better fit as I recognize more of the names. I have been working on creating some consistency in the early hominid category, mainly between articles about fossils and articles about species. As you can imagine with several species only known by 1 fossil it can be quite confused. Rhodesian man is a prime example. Do you guys think we need another wikiproject or could I work it out in the structure of this project? Nowimnthing 21:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason you couldn't do it under these auspices. Good for you! - UtherSRG (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorting work for Human evolution articles

Lucy

Picture of Lucy Remains, Museo Nacional de Antropología, Mexico City
Catalog number: AL 288-1
Species: Australopithecus afarensis
Age: 3.2 mya
Place discovered: Ethiopia
Date discovered: 1974
Discovered by: Donald Johanson

Pages not on Human evolution template

Some of these may need to be added to the template, others either need to be merged/cleaned up to indicate their status as controversial or deprecated.

All of these already have the Cat on them. H. cepranensis is on the template. Tc. uxoris and Te. capensis should be merged to H. erectus and either H. ergaster or H. erectus respectively. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

to do list

  1. add [[Category:Early hominids]] to any pages dealing with species or fossils of species. Looks to be done already...
  2. rename all (early hominid) species pages to binomial or trinomial where needed
  3. seperate fossil finds from species pages where appropriate
  4. add notable fossils section to link to fossil pages for each species
  5. rename all fossil pages to catalog number
  6. seperate fossil finds from locations where appropriate

individual items

  • possible infobox template for fossil pages:

finished?

please strike off any tasks that are finished Nowimnthing 16:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Homo floresiensis

Homo floresiensis is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 21:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Individual primates

Are articles about individual primates, e.g. Koko (gorilla), within the scope of this project? Elliskev 16:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. Why? - UtherSRG (talk) 16:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Just curious if adding the Wikiproject template to those talk pages would be appropriate... Elliskev 16:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok. What do you hope to accomplish by using that tag? Improved visibility from this WikiProject? I ask not to say no, but to help suss out what the problem is and how it might be best addressed. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Basically. If it's within the project's scope, adding the tag would increase visibility both ways: to the article and to the project. I'm not involved with the project, so I wanted to get some feedback from those who are before making a presumptive edit. Either way is fine by me. Elliskev 19:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 23:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wildlife Barnstar

There is currently a barnstar proposal at Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals#Wildlife Barnstar for a barnstar which would be available for use for this project. Please feel free to visit the page and make any comments you see fit. Badbilltucker 15:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Stablepedia

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See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 03:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Taxo-boxes and/or harmonizing Hominid date ranges in the intro of articles

Forgive me if someone has already raised this issue. I noticed that the Homo neanderthalensis article has detailed date ranges for its origins and extinctions in the first paragraph of the article, but the Homo erectus article doesn't begin to give that information until much later in the text. I realize the chronology a complex and evolving issue, but it would be great to give a simple date range in Homo erectus in the first paragraph. I think there is some Wiki-guideline about presenting summarical info in the first paragraph.

Additionally, perhaps the taxo-box for Hominids and other extinct primates could contain dates ranges. It would be good for giving the reader a quick idea of the chronological place of extinct primates and Hominids. Mumun 20:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Veterinary medicine project

There is now a proposed project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Veterinary Medicine to deal with matters of veterinary medicine, a subject which currently has disproportionately low content in wikipedia. Any wikipedia editors who have an interest in working on content related to the subject are encouraged to indicate as much there. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)