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The is the discussion page for WikiProject Powderfinger This page is for any general discussion relating to project goals and targets, improvements of articles within the scope of the project, and the project's articles and collaborative work discussion. The goal of this WikiProject is to improve the coverage of Powderfinger on Wikipedia. This page serves to allow the WikiProject's participants to discuss general improvements. Shortcut: WT:FING To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Powderfinger: edit · history · watch · refresh Create: "Automatic (Powderfinger song)" Expand: Steven Bishop, Powderfinger's Oi Song Trilogy Bring to GA: Tea & Sympathy, Far Out Corporation, The Predators (band) Priority 1 (top)			WikiProject Powderfinger Project discussion (Archives) Recent article changes Project notices Portal Project participants Templates Copyright and fair use Article assessment Outreach department Fanclub Newsletter Archives Edit this template · Recent project changes
What's happening... Jan 2: Odyssey Number Five is the latest FAC, the first Powderfinger FAC of 2008! Dec 23: Internationalist (album) has been promoted to featured article status! Dec 21: A portal for Powderfinger has been created – Check it out!		Archives May 2007 - July 2007 August 2007 - October 2007

Contents 1 Transfusion (EP) = GA 2 Roll call 3 Paul Piticco 4 Belter and other dead pages 5 GA Flurry! 6 Side projects list deleted 7 Album reviews 8 "Automatic" 9 These Days 10 Musical style on Powderfinger 11 Nick DiDia 12 Nobody Sees announced! 13 Powderfinger at FAC 14 Dream Days FA 15 Featured Group 16 Singles from Vulture Street 17 Powderfinger portal 18 Mr Kneebone 19 Lost and Running 20 New online archive 21 I Don't Remember 22 WP:HMM

[edit] Transfusion (EP) = GA

Another GA, guys! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 07:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how I missed it, but how cool is this? Yeah!! WOOOT! LOL. --lincalinca 04:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it was a few days ago :) Party time. I actually think some of those DYKs could also be passed... Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 07:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

So now we need to get Powderfinger and Dream Days to FA and Bernie to GA and we're right to submit for FT? That's how I see it. --lincalinca 08:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Good work to you guys! I had nothing to do with this one this time :-) You got it to GA fairly quick once the edits started happening. Keep up the good work! Slabba 08:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I Don't Remember just passed too - That's 4 now! You can help on the next one Slab; Passenger (Powderfinger song) is in quite good shape, it just needs track times I think... — H₂O —  09:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, the track times are done, so it's been nommed now too. We're really developing a lot of momentum now. I reckon we should start trying to get Bernie up after this. BLP articles are a LOT harder than song and album articles, but I think it's quite achievable. --lincalinca 10:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Certainly is a lot more info on "Passenger" now! I won't have much time to contribute until at least another week, then I'll try and help out some more tidying up the articles and adding some info where I can. Slabba 04:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't feel pressured to do anything you don'e have the time for. Wikipedia will still bere here when you get back. In the meantime, we'll just remove you from our project list... Just kidding. Do what you have to do. Wikipedia comes second. --lincalinca 05:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:There is no deadline...Wikipedia:There is no deadline, unless you're Slabba. Hmm... :P — H₂O —  07:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

LOL! :-) Had to laugh at those comments! Slabba 05:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roll call

This sounds like a pretty obvious answer, since the active participants are often active, but I want to list them as bold on the project page. --lincalinca 06:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

1. lincalinca
2. ~ Sebi
3. Slabba
4.  — H₂O
5. jmfarquhar

[edit] Paul Piticco

Hi guys, I've just recently joined Wikipedia and your wonderful project for an awesome band, and I thought I'd try my hand at creating the Paul Piticco article listed as needed. Any comments, criticisms, suggestions, tips, or improvements to the article are welcomed and appreciated. jmfarquhar 03:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Dude, you rock. It just needs a bit of copyediting etc., but great work nonetheless. I've nominated it at T:TDYK too :) — H₂O —  04:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, welcome aboard! Generally, there's been four "main" members of our clan, with occasional input from other editors, and so to add a fifth is fantastic! The job you did creating the PP article's definitely getting you off on the right foot. --lincalinca 04:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) Hope I can be of help in the future. jmfarquhar 05:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belter and other dead pages

I was just checking out the list of Stub articles from the link on the project page and I saw that the talk page for "Talk:Belter (song)" is still active. So I just deleted the references to wikiprojects, dunno if we need to formally delete the talk page. Also I'm sure there's probably other dead pages that need cleaning up. Slabba 07:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

On a side note, what's the go with Tiddas, it's got the Powderfinger wikiproject banner. I don't know what its connection is. Anyone know? Slabba 07:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

See Passenger (Powderfinger song), among others. --lincalinca 09:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Mystery solved! Thanks linca. Slabba 21:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Flurry!

Ok, we've got Passenger up to GA now, so what onto now? Should we all unite and put all of our efforts towards improving the Powderfinger article to get it to FA? Sebi has started a Musical style scratchpad for anybody who wants to contribute there (use the talk page there to discuss it too). As it looks like the Side Projects page will be deleted, not for due reason, but because consensus seems to point that way, I'm going to keep the code for the page on one of my subpages and implement it on the Powderfinger page if it's deleted. Sebi and H2O have given heaps of work towards improving the referencing on the Powderfinger article, and so now we're looking very good to make this a reality. Who's in for this? It'll prepare us to easily get Bernie up to GA (and perhaps up to FA). --lincalinca 04:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Stuff that needs to be done for Powderfinger can be found here and here. The styles thing is the big one. — H₂O —  08:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Side projects list deleted

Discussion moved to appropriate place, Talk:Powderfinger.

[edit] Album reviews

I've just been adding some reviews to Double Allergic, Internationalist, and Odyssey Number Five to expand the articles a bit. Let me know what you think, there is still room for improvement I reckon, but it's a start. Slabba 06:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice work slabster! From these we can get under the fingernails of the albums and expand them accordingly. --lincalinca 08:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Automatic"

Whilst it says on the ARIA site that Tom Whitten of Powderfinger was nominated for Engineer of the Year for "Automatic" in 1996 [1], there is a discussion on this forum that it doesn't exist and may in fact supposed to be Double Allergic [2]. I don't reckon we need to create a page, as a nomination for Engineer of the Year for a song no one seems to have heard of doesn't seem very notable :-) Slabba 07:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think creating the Tim Whitten page would be a good idea, but we should do some checking to see why DA was referred to with that name in the ARIAs. Plus, DA received most of its nominations the next year, so it's a bit funny? --lincalinca 08:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

DA means...? By the way - "All i can tell ya is in 96 they toured with the BAND Automatic." ([3]) - I'm with Slabba on not creating, but we should mention the Engineer award somewhere. Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

DA=Double Allergic. Makes a bit more sense if there's a band called "Automatic". Slabba 21:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Automatic was the working title of Double Allergic, apparently. I was talking to a guy from church about it this morning. Unfortunately he's not exactly an encyclopedically "reliable source" as it were, but it's at least a direction to look into to try to get some answers. It's strange, though, that ARIA would award it based on the wrong title. But if the band they toured with (which from memory is made up on members of Tumbleweed and Custard) recorded with Tim Whitten, then that would explain it, but it doesn't explain why they're being given the credit on the official ARIA website. It's all quite strange. --lincalinca 00:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps ARIA never updated after Double Allergic Automatic won? I'm confused too... Dihydrogen Monoxide 02:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] These Days

I like what's been done to the "These Days" page, amazing what happens when you add a little extra info to the page :-) I reckon it could almost get upgraded from Start class. It must be close to B class at least. Slabba 05:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm thinking we GAC it soon. Internationalist will also be there shortly ;) Oh, and Dream Days is going to FAC some time in the near future. Dihydrogen Monoxide 08:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Musical style on Powderfinger

I'd really like to get an "Influences" section up and running before the article goes to FAC. Below I've compiled a list of a few interviews with members of the band which discuss influences, so if anyone would like to try their hand at adding to what I've proposed further below.

• Interview with Jon Coghill
• Yahoo! interview with Darren and Bernard
• Some news article that talks about Bourbon Street influences
• And most of the sources provided on this sandbox

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On different occasions, Powderfinger have cited their influences as <influences here>...

Spebi 06:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nick DiDia

Sooo...... Nick DiDia now is articled. Quite an impressive resume he has, might I say! The article needs a LOT of expansion, but it's created now. Go sick! --lincalinca 09:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Groovy, nice work. He's got quite a resume, so I figure there'd be a few more sources out there. Time to google it! Dihydrogen Monoxide 22:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nobody Sees announced!

It's official! Music video available here. Release date: December 1 (my birthday!). Hopefully, some other RS will make mention of it, and we can get an article up soon. Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice one. It was somewhat obvious, though I was half expecting it to be "Who Really Cares?" but this is just as good. --lincalinca 06:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Powderfinger at FAC

... here :) Spebi 09:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dream Days FA

I don't understand why no one has created a comment about Dream Days becoming a featured article. Anyway, well done to you guys who did some great work on the article in bringing it to FA status. Slabba (talk) 06:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Ha, thanks Slab. By the way, for everyone, there's a makeshift to-do list for the article at User_talk:Dihydrogen_Monoxide/Archive/November_2007#Dream_Days. Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 06:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Group

Okay, so now we have a Featured Powderfinger article. Woot! How about we now get all of the albums and members up to B class (and maybe even put a couple up for GA just for kicks to see what we can do to improve them) and once everything's considerably stabler and better than now, we launch into making Powderfinger a featured group? --lincalinca 03:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's Featured Topic ;) Internationalist (album) is currently at GAC, and the other ones shouldn't be much harder (PCentral has heaps on DA and O#5). I'm mostly worried about Parables - there isn't that much that I can find that's of a decent quality. Time to start listing some websites down here, if we can... Dihydrogen Monoxide ^♫ 05:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

All albums at least great GA (not just another "only just passed", crappy GA) or FA (and not crappy FA, either), then we take them to featured topic candidates. :) Spebi 05:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Either way, it'll take a while. And I don't see what you mean by "only just passed GA" - I'm sure we could go to GAR or something if there was a concern with the reviewer... Dihydrogen Monoxide ^♫ 05:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I really don't think it's that long off, but I think the albums only need to be upper B class, likewise the members pages. To me, those are the greater areas of concern, since almost all of them are very short stubs. --lincalinca 11:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Back on this topic, I think it's time we finally got off our arses and improved the member pages. I've created an invitation, so I'll be inviting everybody who's a member of the Project to participate. I've started the ball rolling by bringing Cogsy's article from a barebones stub (it almost could have not been there and the result would have been the same) to what I now consider to be an upper end start class article, completely referenced and its prose is adequate now. --lincalinca 10:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singles from Vulture Street

Hi all. I'm having a bit of trouble working out the order these were released in. I could only find a source saying "Since You've Been Gone" was released in March 2004, and I know Sunsets was released in June (it's a GA, etc.). At the same time, IIRC SYBG came after Sunsets. Any thoughts/ideas? — Dihydrogen Monoxide 06:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... I can't remember (don't)... but On My Mind was definitely first and I'm pretty sure Love Your Way was the second single. After that, all I remember them playing on the radio was Stumblin' and Sunsets, though Stumblin' wasn't a proper single, so it doesn't count. I don't think I ever heard SYBG on the radio, and I didn't get the cd single either. Sorry mate, I don't think I can help you there. --lincalinca 07:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I remember hearing SYGB now - in fairly early (May or earlier) 2004...I dunno - try some googling? — Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Powderfinger portal

... has been created :) Portal:Powderfinger. Help required – start by filling in some of the gaps in the Selected content, making sure to keep the selected picture and article different. If you can dig up some old DYKs, feel free to add them to the DYK talk page. Spebi 20:09, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mr Kneebone

I've done some work on Mr Kneebone, but can't find track times. If anybody can find them, please post them, because I think it's ready to go to GA pretty soon. A review or two would be of a lot of help too, though. --lincalinca 03:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lost and Running

Okay, I've just done some work over here, but I still feel it needs some more TLC before I put it up for GA. Anybody? --rm 'w avu 11:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Seems you put it up. Also seems OK to me. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 02:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New online archive

As of November 1, PF newsletters are hosted online at http://www.powderfinger.com/12all/index.php?action=archive&mode=archive&nl_search=1 Wikipedia:WikiProject Powderfinger/Fanclub will no longer be updated (unless someone wants to make a backup). Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I Don't Remember

"I Don't Remember", one of our first GAs for a song, is now at Peer Review, because we want to see if we can pop this up as a Featured article. Then, we only need to get "Black Tears" and "Nobody Sees" up to GA (both are on that trajectory now), and we can submit Dream Days as a Featured Topic. Not much work, huh? Okay, it is a bit of work, but it should be fine. Just a bit of time. Can't hurt us, can it? Anyway, everybody spam tap the shoulder of people who know how to peer review and point them in IDR's direction. The more peer review, the better, because more improvement only consolidates the chances of passing the FAC successfully. --rm 'w avu 08:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

So far, the peer review's going really well. Anybody willing to lend a hand, feel free to head over there and look at the suggestions and see what you can do to implement them. Of course, anything else you see needing work at IDR would be great! --rm 'w avu 08:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HMM

Why is Parables for Wooden Ears under the scope of WP:HMM, yet no other PF articles are? —Burningclean _{[Speak the truth!]} 05:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Because Parables was considered to be Metal, but after releasing it, Powderfinger's style softened, such that Double Allergic wouldn't fall under HMM's scope. At least, in my opinion. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay. —Burningclean _{[Speak the truth!]} 08:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd say DA is borderline, though is the group's best "rock" album... hell, I still think it's their best, and one of the best Australian rock almbums of all time, alongside Woodface and Back in Black. --rm 'w avu 11:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)