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[edit] Proposal: SEPTA Article Naming Standards

[edit] (Proposed) SEPTA Aritcle Naming Conventions

"Station Name" is the official name used on SEPTA maps. Line names are the names used below.

• SEPTA Regional Rail stations follow the form "Station Name (SEPTA station)"
• Broad Street Line mainline stations follow the form "Station Name (BSL station)"

• Broad-Ridge Spur stations follow the form "Station Name (BRS station)"; to follow existing naming and avoid confusion between the exisiting Spring Garden (BSL station) and the defunct Spring Garden (BRS station).

• Norristown High Speed Line stops follow the form "Station Name (NHSL station)"
• Market-Frankford Line stations follow the form "Station Name (MFL station)"
• SEPTA Subway-Surface Trolley Lines should follow the form "Station Name (Subway-Surface Station)
• The following major stations, because they are major intermodal transportation centers or have more than one line, should retain there current article names, and will not have line-specific disambiguating parentheticals: 69th Street Terminal, Frankford Transportation Center, Fern Rock Transportation Center, Suburban Station (Philadelphia), 30th Street Station (Philadelphia), Market East Station (Philadelphia), Norristown Transportation Center, City Hall (SEPTA station), 15th Street (SEPTA station).

[edit] Discussion

I have just proposed this as a formalization of the discussion I initiated here. Please note the standardize of MFL and Subway-Surface articles would be complicated, as they currently exist under a variety of titles. I welcome any comments.-- danntm ^T _C 20:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• If no one wishes to discuss or object to these standards, I will promulgate them on the project page in a couple of weeks.-- danntm ^T _C 14:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• I'd like to make a note that I object to some of these conventions, but will raise them in full at a later time (I'm sort of on an involunary wikibreak right now). --CComMack (t•c) 15:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• I await your comments, and I hope you get back soon.-- danntm ^T _C 16:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Rats, I completely let this hang, didn't I? Sorry about that. Anyway, my counterproposal was going to be that we want to minimize the amount of disambiguating parentheticals we use. North Philadelphia station is a good example of a station that doesn't have and doesn't need a parenthetical at all; there are plenty of these, with the notable exceptions of where SEPTA used the same station name in two different places (Haverford, Byrn Mawr, Villanova, Manayunk, Olney, Spring Garden, etc.) I'd like it if the default station name was Foo station or Foo (SEPTA station)' for Regional Rail, with Foo ([NHSL/BSS/MFSE] station for the Norristown, Broad Street (including the Ridge Spur), and Market Frankford lines respectively. We can really get away with having a single article for both Spring Garden subway stations, which is the only name collision on the Ridge spur, which avoids the clunky (BRS station) constuction (which I find opaque and grating). Anyways, sorry about dropping the ball on this, and I hope I haven't mucked things up too badly by doing so. Cheers, CComMack (t–c) 20:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

• Addendum: light rail and street car routs. Should the title be SEPTA rout #, or rout # (SEPTA)? I recently came across the page rout 23(SEPTA) for the bus rout/former street car line and moved it to SEPTA rout 23 so that it would match with routs 15, 100, 101, and 102 and so propose that SEPTA rout # be the standard format. Sbacle 12:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)