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Contents 1 Suburbs 1.1 Suburb Infoboxes 1.2 Winthrop 1.3 Expansion of suburb articles 1.4 Suburb for Perth Airport and Newburn 1.5 Completed Suburbs 1.6 Naming conventions of Perth suburbs and Perth LGAs 2 Transport 2.1 Freeways, Highways & Major Roads 2.2 Stations 2.2.1 Stations order 2.2.2 Gonna to be rush 2.2.3 Dash or Slash 2.2.4 Depot boxes 2.2.5 More about stations... 2.3 About Train Station succession boxes 2.4 Train Infoboxes 2.5 SmartRider Student Card 2.6 Bus services 2.7 Past public transport proposal details 2.8 William Street works photos 2.9 Train stations platforms 2.10 Line Naming 2.11 New Line Templates 2.12 Garden City Bus Station!?? 3 General discussion 3.1 Stub templates 3.1.1 Update 3.2 Landmarks 3.2.1 Central City Streets 3.3 Culture 3.4 Parks & Gardens 3.5 Photo source 3.6 Train station sucession boxes 3.7 Adventure World 3.8 schools list 3.9 Disambiguation link repair: Perth 3.10 Photo request for South Perth 3.11 Title of the WikiProject 3.12 Government House, Perth 3.13 A wikiperth meet 3.14 Yagan 3.15 Langley Park 3.16 Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation 3.17 Congrats! 3.18 Hillarys Boat Harbour 3.19 Photo Requests 3.20 Black Swan Theatre Company 3.21 1929, 1979, 2004 Information needed 3.22 Dome 3.23 Confusing Train Station Navigation Boxes 3.24 Wildflower pictures

Suburbs

First off, nice work on the suburb categories Shinjiman.

I'd like to help you out with WikiProject Perth. You might have noticed that I started the list of Perth suburbs and created stubs for a lot of those suburbs, I just haven't had a chance (or the motivation) to create the rest. For information about the suburbs I've found DOLA, REIWA and the local councils websites have been useful, although I've still got to read the copyright info for DOLA. If you need assistance with anything please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue adding suburbs. Meesham 09:42, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Is there anyone have the comments about the Article naming for the suburbs? Seems some names are names as [Suburb A, Western Australia], but some of them are named [Suburb B, Australia] or [Suburb C]. Is that we need to unite them to a uniform naming conveetions?? :) Shinjiman 16:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

When I started adding some I only added Australia or Western Australia to disambig with other articles. Other editors have been changing some of them over to [Suburb, Western Australia], and for ones that I've been working on recently I've been changing them over to that format too. I think [Suburb, Western Australia] would be the best format, so that would be my vote. Meesham 16:38, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Support. :D Shinjiman 03:42, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

If we don't get any other responses in the next couple of days we should probably just go ahead with changing them, I've already been changing a couple as I go along.

I think South Perth is now a good example of what we should try to aim for for atleast the local council pages, maybe all of the suburb pages. This is thanks mainly to an anonymous user (203.59.82.69) who added a lot of the history, although finding history for the other suburbs will probably be difficult. The only thing that page is missing now in my opinion is a map of the area, showing the boundaries of the suburb and/or the local council. It could probably also do with a bit more information about the current state of South Perth, like popular areas etc (I'm not too sure, as I'm a northerner :) ) Meesham 10:32, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi guys, I've finally worked out how to contribute (I think I've got it right!) to this page. I only recently discovered the Wikipages and more as an experiment than deliberate intent, I decided to add some material to the South Perth page. Mainly this was because my Wife works for the City and I pick up lots of useful history and information. The COSP webpage has a lot of information about suburb and street name history; I know because I did a lot of web research for her at home. The pages are buried very deep in the website but are worth searching for. The REIWA website is singularly unhelpful. I've also done a bit on Waterford, for the same reasons as above, and also added some stuff about Dianella. --Robert Fraser 07:49, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Suburb Infoboxes

Like the infoboxes for the train/bus stations, should there be one for suburbs? Such contents could be name, a picture with the dot on where the suburb is, public transport in the suburb, parks, gardens, lakes, attractions etc?

EDIT: Found one that exists, tried an example with Innaloo, Western Australia Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:38, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

You may want to move this to the bottom of the page; it's hard to find up here mixed with discussion from six months ago. The Innaloo box isn't bad, but we've already spent quite a bit of time working on a suburb box for Canberra (c.f. Yarralumla). Ambi 09:55, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I suggested the template can use in different colours, representing the local government respectively. Like Stirling can use blue/green, Bayswater can use yellow/green, Perth can use red/yellow/black, Victoria Park can use yellow/green/blue can Canning use red/white, etc, etc... --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 11:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I edited the info for Innaloo especially surrounding suburbs as they where to in accurate also calculated the approx area. [1] Whereis site is great for accuirate locating surrounding burbs. Gnangarra 10:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes looks good and this would be a useful addition. Personally I'm not a big fan of those dot maps, but thats just my opinion. The REIWA site [2] also has some figures for population, median house price, distance from GPO etc. Cheers Nachoman-au 12:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Added and changed parts to suggestions. It is also set so that the dot map is based on the name of the council. Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:22, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

No Dot Map - Find a free alternative to this? Maybe a similar picture of the zoomed out metro area? Boochan 11:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

How about a representative picture instead of the dot? I tried for characteristic images for Mt Lawley, Inglewood and, to a lesser extent, Cottesloe. More informative than a dot, and once the Kvaleberg extension (the {{coor d||N/S||E/W|}}-Template that gives locations such as 31.952° S 115.859° E) is implemented fully (like in the German wikipedia; see the top of this page for example), the dots may well be irrelevant - Gobeirne 18:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Great Idea. We got pictures of all the train/bus stations, so why not try and get indivdual pictures of places in suburbs that are well known? Boochan 23:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

• Good suggestion Boochan, Perth suburb photo requests section will be add to the info box pageUser:Gnangarra/Suburbs. For those dont know me I drive school buses SOR so I spend a lot time moving around the burbs with plenty of breaks between jobs. If you leave a request on the page When the opportunity arises i'll get some photos Gnangarra 09:56, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Gnangarra/Suburbs is a page that Gnangarra and myself have been using. Please make use of it to allow those preforming tasks to know whats been done, and what hasn't. --Spook ^{(my talk | my contribs)} 05:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking we should move that page to a subpage of this project... thoughts anyone? --Spook ^{(my talk | my contribs)} 06:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Winthrop

Better than studying :D. I wrote this up, took the photos, hope it helps. --Sclozza 04:31, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Expansion of suburb articles

I have expanded quite a few articles, including: Shenton Park, Western Australia Floreat, Western Australia Jolimont, Western Australia Daglish, Western Australia Highgate, Western Australia Karrakatta, Western Australia Wembley Downs, Western Australia. I was just wondering if the way i have done these is alright and if not, please feel free to add/change them. Thanks --Ali K 08:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

They're not a bad start, but doing articles in list form is generally frowned upon. Would it be possible to write them in prose? The information about traffic lights and roundabouts probably isn't particularly encylopedic, but the rest of it is good. If you want an example to go by, you may want to have a look at some of those already started, whether they be shortish (such as Phillip, Australian Capital Territory) or already finished (such as Waterfall Gully, South Australia. Ambi 09:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the info. Do you think it would be ok to keep the bold subjects, for example education, but then instead of having dot points write the information in prose? Thanks--Ali K 11:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

They're usually done with headings (which you can add by typing, say, ==Education==), rather than bold subjects, but sure. I'm not sure whether you'd have quite enough information to warrant it (maybe a paragraph might be enough), but you're the author, so it's your call entirely. :) Ambi 11:48, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Like Ferndale, it's a good point to start a suburb article in a paragraph form instead of the list. It's also a good idea to put a infobox to those suburbs. :) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:41, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

With the infobox, how do i find the information for median house price and area?? Also, maybe someone wouldn't mind helping me add tables and changing the information into paragraph form?--Ali K 07:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, how would I find out the information about the population, size, telephone exchange, schools, and Suburb establishment (it is not the same as establishment of local government)? --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 04:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The first three: reiwa.com.au; schools: street directory and establishment is listed in various places. If you go onto Google Earth, placemarks are at all the exchanges, the one the suburb is closest to would be the one it is Trisreed <small>[[User_talk:Trisreed|my talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Trisreed|my contribs</small>]] 08:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps the template could be modified to use the IF conditional thingy so unpopulated parameters don't show up (if you know what I mean) ? Nachoman-au 09:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

It's now done using the CSS class "hiddenStructure" to hide non used parameters. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 13:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Seems some facilities can be found in Transperth map, which is in the website, a Java software is required. (To Trisreed: seems your signature is broken :D) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 14:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Coincidently, I was just about to do that since I did it to Template:Infobox_Network. Also, I just fixed the signature yesterday. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 06:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Suburb for Perth Airport and Newburn

I've found out there's a suburb called Perth Airport, and its postcode is 6105. Is that really exist at this moment? and also, I also cannot find the suburb called Newburn (its postcode is 6104), but I've found out this suburb exists in the old version of Perth map (around 1990s version), is that really exists nowadays?--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Perth Airport is a suburb, I've never seen a recent map with Newburn on it: I tried to change links to Perth Airport from Newburn but they were changed back. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 01:38, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

• This is what I knew, when I worked out at a customs agency(1986-1988) near the Int air port the area was known as Newburn all businesses on Horrie Miller drive had the address as Newburn. Businesses on the Domestic side where in Redcliffe. South Guildford encompassed the Eastern side of the airport along the City of Swan boundary. Gnangarra
• Now according to the 2005 Street Smart directory Perth airport encompasses the industrial area east of tonkin hwy and north of Abernethy road West of Kalamunda road except the High Wycombe residentual area and the Cemetery the zigzags south great eastern hwy. The change would have occured when the Airport was leased to Federal Airports Corporation. Looking at the maps the boundaries appear to be the same. There is no referrence to Newburn in the directory. Gnangarra
• From this I say we use PERTH AIRPORT as the BURB and Facility combined. Gnangarra 03:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Completed Suburbs

The project page for WP:PERTH shows a progress bar with 94 of 350 suburb articles being listed as complete. Where is the list of complete suburb articles, and how do we add one or increase the counter if we have completed another? I have just expanded Ballajura quite a bit. -- Renesis13 09:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Naming conventions of Perth suburbs and Perth LGAs

It's quite common that one of the Perth suburb is the name of LGAs. Is that needed to disambig (split) the articles that explaining the suburb itself, and the other explaining the LGA? And also some LGAs is not containing the suburb itself, is that better to change the article name to the LGA name (like [City of ..., Western Australia], [Town of ... Western Australia] and [Shire of ..., Western Australia])?--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 04:58, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

For example, if the article is named Cockburn, Western Australia, it's heard that this is the suburb of Western Australia. However if the name is City of Cockburn, Western Australia, it is more clear that this is the LGA in Western Australia.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 05:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Definitely I think use suburb, WA for suburbs and City/Town/Municipality of ... If the suburb is also and LGA, I think they should be separate articles as they are separate entities as is done in WP:SYD, WP:ADEL, WP:MELB, etc.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 00:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Transport

Freeways, Highways & Major Roads

Newcomer here... Just letting you guys know I just completed a detailed article of the Mitchell Freeway & Kwinana Freeway and I will probably do many more articles on the major Perth Highways & Roads. Either Clean them up or create new ones? Anyone wishing to help or supply pictures? Boochan 13:44, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I say clean up & add when it exists, and new ones when there are not any. I am willing to help content such as lists of interchanges. Also think dont just ones with routes allocated. Trisreed my talk my contribs 09:49, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll supply pictures if you want, just tell me what you want and I'll see what I can do. Spook 06:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Stations

For currently, I have doing about the Train Stations and Bus Stations in Perth, which are provided by Transperth. Also, I have done about 3 Train Stations in Perth, but proposed to adding a infobox on the top right hand corner. The box at the bottom are created similar as WikiProject Melbourne. Hopfully can finished them soon. :-) --Shinjiman 12:57, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think these articles (for basic ones, anyway) are shaping up really well - nice work! Ambi 13:06, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The infobox that're proposed should be like this (that will be created later):

For Train Stations station_name=Name of ststion code=Station 3 digit code image=Station photo if available servicearea=Major Servicing Area (Train Line Serviced) servicearea_textcolor=Text Colour of Train Line [Black/White] servicearea_color=Colour of Train Line [name/RRGGBB] street=Location of Street, Road, or Highway suburb=Location of Suburb zone=Fare Zone distance=Distance from Perth Train Station patterns=Patterns stops at this station platforms=Total number of Platforms platform_arch=Architecture of Platform [Island|Side] station_struct=Station Structure [Open|Closed] access=Accessed by [Footbridge/Maze/Underground Pass] tgbooth=Transit Guard Booth trainconnect=Train Connections busconnect=Bus Connections stands=Total number of bus stands (if available) routes=Total number of bus routes (if available) pnr=Park 'n' Ride lnr=Lock 'n' Ride lifts=Lifts escalators=Escalators avm=Add Value Machines phones=Public Phones toilets=Public Toilets

For Bus Stations station_name=Name of ststion image=Station photo if available servicearea=Major Servicing Area servicearea_textcolor=Text Colour of Major Servicing Area [Black/White] servicearea_color=Colour of Major Servicing Area [name/RRGGBB] street=Location of Street, Road, or Highway suburb=Location of Suburb zone=Fare Zone stands=Total number of bus stands routes=Total number of bus routes trainconnect=Train Connections pnr=Park 'n' Ride security=Transit Security exists avm=Add Value Machines phones=Public Phones toilets=Public Toilets

(users can edit the table above to include the information that should have for the train/bus station.) --Shinjiman 13:13, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just updated Perth Train Station for the trial of this kind of template. --Shinjiman 17:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Changed a variablle from platform_style to platform_arch for better meaning. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 02:30, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just added a new attribute: street --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 03:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Change a attribute from esclators to escalators. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:44, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Just added a attribute security into the Bus Station template. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)

I just noticed that the midland and fremantle line stations are not showing up in the transperth catrgoy. Trisreed

Changed a variable from faregates into station_struct to stat more clearly that is a open station or closed station.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 08:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Stations order

As the stations names are shown, which way to shown the direction from/to Perth is better?

Using Perth at the center station order (Perth station at the top)

• Perth - Armadale
• Perth - Fremantle
• Perth - Joondalup
• Perth - Mandurah
• Perth - Midland

Using track up-down order (Track-up station on the left and Track-down station on the right)

• Perth - Armadale
• Fremantle - Perth
• Perth - Joondalup
• Perth - Mandurah
• Perth - Midland

also, which way to shown the Thornlie Spur Line is better?

• Cannington - Thornlie (Logically connected adjecent stations, bypassing Beckenham)
• Beckenham - Thornlie (Physically connected adjacent stations)

I would have Perth-Thornlie Gnangarra 11:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 11:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Use perth as the centre station, that's where it all starts. and i prefer cannington-thornlie since that is how the train is going to stop.

Sandstorm6299 13:08, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I take that back, i think revert to beckenham-thornlie (my bad, sorry), since that is the physical connection, but in the armadale line page, use the patterns to indicate no stopping at beckenham Sandstorm6299 15:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

~ Depot boxes is moved to below. ~

Also, the new station is opening sunday, so we can hopefully get a picture for it

Good job on the WikiProject, Shinjiman Trisreed 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Gonna to be rush

I will gonna to be rushing about those articles except Mandurah Line, and hopfully finishes in these one to two weeks. The progress becomes lots faster than before. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)

Dash or Slash

According to the Armadale Line Timetable, the title used is [Armadale / Thornlie Line]; also in the Stopping Pattern in the Armadale Line Timetable, the word [Armadale - Thornlie Line] is used, also this is used on the display in the Perth Station platforms. So which form of display is more correct, a / or a - ??? --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 01:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Right now, I think they are being treated as 2 separate lines: Armadale Line and Thornlie Line... it's just that they share the same stations all the way to Cannington, and they share the same colour code. I think it would be best to put Armadale/Thornlie Line, as that is what is printed on the front of the timetable, and also the Transperth website. But I think it might be best to wait until something official comes out. Oh and were you there at the Thornlie station opening ceremony this morning? Just wondering... Sandstorm6299 12:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not at the Thornlie Station opening ceremony at this morning, but I think I may take a photograph of Thornlie Station in next morning, and upload that into here. :) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 12:36, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Depot boxes

~ Moved from above ~

Also, as the bus depots are mentioned in Path Transit and the train depots in Transperth Trains, maybe there could be a depot box? Trisreed 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

~ end moving ~

We can do the infoboxes about the train/bus depots, seems the location of the train/bus depots are not very convinent for public transport routes, it's harder to take a photograph as like the stations. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

More about stations...

Maybe you could add whether it is level, underground, or above ground station? Trisreed 05:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, at the moment, Subiaco is the only underground station (I think), and the new Mandurah rail line will be adding only 2 more (Esplanade and the Perth station's William Street underground platforms). The rest of the stations are ground-level so I don't think there is any point to it. Sandstorm6299 16:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Sandstorm's opinion. The underground station can be told in the contents of the page, no idea is that Joondalup Station is also a underground station? (remember sign your name using four tides after discussion) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 01:32, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I've got a large number of images detailing the construction work for the William St and Esplanade stations up until April this year, when I left Perth. If anyone wants me to upload some or all of these for inclusion on the as yet unwritten pages for these two stations, let me know! - Gobeirne 00:02, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

That'd be excellent. Perhaps you could create a bit of a stub page for each station while you're there? Ambi 07:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I've just created a stub for the Esplanade station - it'd be great if people could expand this and fill in the correct details in the "TP Train Station" sidebox - Gobeirne 21:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

About Train Station succession boxes

A 0 234 U

This is the sample train lines milestone which appears throughout the electric poles in Perth railway lines. The first row indicates the train section. The second and the third rows are indicates the distance from Perth Station. and the fourth row indicates the direction of the line.

According those information on the pole, we can determine the information for the train lines, which includes:

	Up track direction	Down track direction
Armadale / Thornlie Line	to Perth	to Armadale or Thornlie
Clarkson Line	to Perth	to Clarkson
Fremantle Line	to Fremantle	to Perth
Midland Line	to Perth	to Midland

In general, up direction are towards Fremantle, and vice versa for down direction. In original, I've created the train station articles according to the train lines track directions order. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Melbourne/Railway_stations#Up_and_Down for reference about in Melbourne. But however, which way to express the train succession boxes are better? Better need to know the others opinion... --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Train Infoboxes

I noticed in the train infoboxes there is a new section called 'SmartRider Format'. Is this needed? Most of the articles have no details for this and 'Fare Gates' has the same purpose ie if there is not fare gates, it is a mobile processor. Trisreed my talk my contribs 08:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Will be fairly important as the Smartrider is released January 2006. Fairly big difference between the two. Boochan 11:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree... this should definitley be kept. It is much more important than some of the other info on there like phone etc. --Djone2121 11:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I think there's may have a duplicate between [Fare Gates] and [Smartrider Format] attribute. A closed station have a fare gates, and a open station doesn't have fare gates; I think it's more important to telling it's a open or closed station rather than there's have fare gates or not. Also I think there's may have some better name rather than [Samrtrider Format], like [Station Architecture] maybe more better than that. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 06:13, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I've implemented the changes for the train station, better saying the [Station structure]. It is because the open/closed station not only applies on the SmartRider holder, also it applies on the other tickets holders including cash tickets and MultiRiders.--Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 08:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Just remembered that something are need to add into the infobox, is that to be suggested to add the new attribute avm (Add Value Machine) [Yes|No] to distinguish the stations have Add Value Machine or not? --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 14:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I have implemented the value [avm] in the infoboxes to indicate the station have Add Value Machines or not. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 04:53, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

SmartRider Student Card

I have one of the new student SmartRider cards as issued by Perth schools. If you need any information about it just ask me. I would scan it in, but I am not sure if that would break copyright law. Deganom 11:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

So do I. I am using mine at the moment as a member of the Control Group. Let me know if you need info. fyi. the smartcard chip is located on the top left corner - put it up to an optical mouse and you can see it --Djone2121 11:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Control Group? Deganom 11:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

See this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartRider#Control_Group_Rollout --Djone2121 13:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't need to scan pictures.. PTA has sufficient pictures of the smartrider cards on there websites. Information is also very plentiful. Boochan 13:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

before put the information on to there, make sure the copyright status from their website, and make references when it is required. :) --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 06:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Bus services

just a few issues to address

1. should we put all connecting bus services for all stations.. example: Oats Street is considered a station with connecting bus services (with bus stands) but Shinjiman has also put other routes which don't have an allocated official stand i.e. 282 and 283.. so should this be the case for all other stations? e.g. Kenwick is not officially a station with connecting bus services, but 220 passes by the station along Albany Highway

2. the Esplanade Busport page is in a mess, maybe putting all the bus stands in order, then showing which company owns which service by colour? like all sWAn Transit can be in orange, then Southern Coast Transit in red and Path Transit in green? Sandstorm6299 08:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

1. It can put all bus connections in the page, But the stand listing is more clear in the article. And also we can put the connection in sentence for other connections. (mostly the stand details are obtained from online PDF timetables.)

2. I agree with this opinion, see here for the contract areas between each contractors. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 09:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Past public transport proposal details

Just found out about the past public transport details in 1997, and it's the 10 year plan proposed system for the public transport, I've seen there's much information are included at there.... [3] --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 17:00, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Interesting - Like 1 Week after you put this on Wiki, the DPI took it off the site. Guess they forgot that the Court Liberal Governments proposals were still lurking online... lol... Boochan 17:32, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what was in the plans, Shinjiman? Ambi 00:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Some parts of the proposal are including the details like the new bus fleets, new train sets, CircleRoute, System 21, inter-suburan bus services, minilink service, the improved ferry services. And also including the original Mandurah railway plan from Perth City to Mandurah via Thornlie. Now the System 21 route becomes the high frequency buses route, however some parts like using GPS locater to locate the arrival time on this are only applies on the present CAT routes. The CircleRoute implemented does not serve the Domestic Airport. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 01:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

FYI from Boochan, just checked the DPI website, the contents of website is actually token off. However, the contents of these sre still here, it's only achieved into a zip file. [4] --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 01:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

According to the Perth Airport Master Plan, the CircleRoute does not go past the Airport due to increased travel time for non-airport uses and increased costs. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 01:40, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

William Street works photos

For those who are interested, I've added 20 photos of the William St demolition works for the New MetroRail project to Wikimedia Commons. Gobeirne 08:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Train stations platforms

Several stations have been changed into tables, however, some tables are broken (table goes to bottom). And a sample article are running in trail expressing the platforms in table. (Broken table: Perth Station by M Johnson, fixed table: Armadale Station by me, and the original text version Midland Station). By comparing these versions, we've got the main difference including:

Text version

• Flexable width: suitable browsers for any resolutions.

Table version

• Fixed width: when browsers with large resolutions, the table width will not extended.

It needs to know others comments about the opinions to having a proposed change to stations articles. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe % width tables? ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 00:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Line Naming

I was just looking at Innaloo and Hillarys articles the train line is referred to the joondalup lime on innaloo and the northern line on hillarys what should the train lines be referred to as. i've always thought they are midland, armadale, freo, joondalup and now mandurah. Can someone confirm the names and then we need to ensure the suburbs are consistant with what ever format Gnangarra 10:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The lines are indeed the Joondalup, Midland, Fremantle, Armadale, Thornlie, and Mandurah lines. These are the official names. Sandstorm6299 10:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

New Line Templates

Arnzy has recently introduced a new template to the Perth station page. I have readily accepted this change, and I have even contributed to it by adding several things to it. But now I have found that I may have added more additions than necessary. I would like to know what is truly necessary? Obviously, we need the line, previous and next stations, and the colours. Will it be necessary to fit in the patterns and zones as well? (see Claisebrook to see what I am referring to.)

I have found the previous template more than adequate, but Arnzy may have changed to this template to make all rail line templates in wikipedia the same. Sandstorm6299 10:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

At previously as I've created those pages, I used the box without including/using any templates, and this will add the flexability to including the zonal information for the station and the neighbour stations. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 02:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice job Trisreed on adjusting the template. I guess I'm not very good at creating a good one. I'll get back to my usual updating and editing. Thanks again for clearing the terrible attempt I made! Sandstorm6299 13:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice job Trisreed to having a nicer template that including the zonal information for the current station and adjacent stations, as per Sandstorm6299, I am just only adding the information, however the new template used (as of Arnzy's revision) makes too cluttered. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 00:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi guys, a short intro, I'm Arnzy, and in general I'm a railfan that has travelled on Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and Perth systems. Getting onto things, as you all know, I was the one to implement this style of template to keep it to consistency with most other rail systems. However, the improvements to the template have been good ones as it does suit the Transperth rail system perfectly with the many running patterns and so on. Good work. --Arnzy ^{(whats up?)} 11:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I applied the template to all stations on the Joondalup Line. --Arnzy ^{(whats up?)} 12:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Applied template to all stations on Armadale/Thornlie Line. Sandstorm6299 17:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Applied template to Fremantle Line, Mandurah Line and Midland Line as well. Sandstorm6299 20:42, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I have adapted the new Transperth template and made one for the Transwa services (see the Transwa template). Hope this keeps a bit more uniformity between the metro and regional rail services in the Perth pages. Now only the Indian Pacific is left, but it would be pretty weird to change only the WA pages (East Perth and Kalgoorlie) since the rest of the stations are in SA and NSW. Sandstorm6299 05:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Garden City Bus Station!??

I've seen this article, seems the name has been changed into Garden City Bus Station by Bergoine, is that the name of the station has been changed? Seems these changes is not verifiable, and cannot found in the Transperth website, which is in official. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 17:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

According to the official website, it is Booragoon Bus Station. Would Bergoine like to have a say to whether the change is right? (It could be possible that the change has not yet been reflected in the website). I would change it back to Booragoon Bus Station, and if there is proof that it is changed, then I will gladly change it back.

I have reverted the following: Booragoon bus station, Perth, Cannington railway station, Perth, Esplanade Busport, Perth, Canning Bridge bus station, Perth, Curtin University bus station, Perth, Murdoch Park 'n' Ride, Perth, Rockingham bus station, Success Park 'n' Ride, Perth and List of Perth bus stations Sandstorm6299 11:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Although located at Garden City, even when I lived there in the mid-80s it was always just Booragoon Bus Station. I've checked a few timetables on Transperth's website and they all use the same terminology. I think it's safe to change back, but perhaps put a divert at Garden City Bus Station (for whatever reason) so those who go there get sent to Booragoon. Orderinchaos78 14:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

General discussion

Stub templates

Discussion on the naming of stub templates relating to this and other Australian city wikiprojects is in progress at WP:WSS/P#Australian cities. Feel free to comment. Grutness...wha? 01:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Update

The changeover to the new stub types for Perth hs been done. There are only two minor changes:

• {{Perth-stub}} now leads into Cat:Perth stubs, not Cat:Perth-related stubs;
• the redirect {{Perthstub}} has been deleted.

This brings Perth into line with all other cities that have separate stubs. there is also now a separate {{WesternAustralia-geo-stub}} for locations in the state (including places in and around Perth).

A couple of other minor points:

• Buildings in Perth should be double-stubbed with {{Perth-stub}} and {{Struct-stub}} (there should soon be an {{Australia-struct-stub}} for these);
• Streets in Perth should be double-stubbed with {{Perth-stub}} and {{Australia-road-stub}};
• Railway-related stubs in Perth should be double-stubbed with {{Perth-stub}} and {{Australia-rail-stub}}

We at WP:WSS hope these changes aren't inconvenient, and will help your project! Grutness...wha? 00:38, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Landmarks

Just an idea, that some comment should be made about the landmarks, as otherwise outsiders might not have the faintest the barracks arch or bell tower might really mean? vcxlor 07:32, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

list of city area Landmarks

1. Bell Tower / Barracks St Jetty
2. Barracks Arch
3. Perth Town Hall / St Georges Cathederal
4. Supreme Court & Gardens
5. Horse Shoe Bridge
6. WACA Ground
7. Kings Park
8. Royal Perth Hospital / St Mary's Cathederal
9. His Majestiey Theatre
10. The Old Melbourne Hotel
11. Cloisters House
12. Convention Centre / Busport
13. Wellington Square
14. Narrows Bridge
15. The Causeway
16. Government House
17. The Perth Mint

anyone think of any others, each would need a photo, location, and brief description then linked to a main article if it has sufficient details Gnangarra 11:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Have requested a speedy rename for Category:Landmarks in Perth to Category:Landmarks in Perth, Western Australia as per naming conventions to bring it in line with other articles. --frendy 02:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Central City Streets

I created a tiny sub-stub for Murray St a few weeks back, but if anyone wants to get started on some others, here are some pictures which may be useful. Gobeirne 06:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Hay Street, Perth

Barrack Street, Perth

Forrest Place, Perth

Culture

I've just added a Culture section to the Perth WikiProject page, following discussions with vcxlor about the need to discuss and document Perth's cultural history, such as the evolution of the Perth music scene, and Perth-related aspects of other cultural phenomena, such as the fact that Bodgies and Widgies used to congregate around the Snake Pit in Scarborough... even Post-office goths and Gogans... that sort of thing.... what do you all think? - Gobeirne 03:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, well, some suggestions folks! (aka Harry Secombe goons voice)

• 'High or Ruling Class Culture' - Government House and 'Officially sanctioned' stuff -predominant 1800's (snottygobble whereare you?)

Really tied in with ruling class things like art gallery things

• WWII Culture - the presence of American servicemen did a lot..

• Popular Culture - 1950 +
  • Music -
    • Local Radio stations, DJ's, groups etc
    • Rock Music scene
      • Newspaper/Broadsheets

• • • Folk and Blues
      • Singers and Groups
      • Clubs

• • Pubs and Clubs -
    • Night Clubs
  • Amateur Theatre

• Youth Culture -
  • Beach-side - Scarborough
  • Surfing

• Youth Sub Culture
  • Grogans
  • etc

• Gay Culture
  • Connections
  • Newspaper/Broasheets

Does anyone think they can expand this one? Is it the way to go? vcxlor 03:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

All sounds like ancient history to anyone I guess unless you grew up Pre-1980s. afaik from then on youth culture is generally similar to the rest of the country. To be honest, I think maybe 1/50 people will know what a Grogan is, and these will be the ones that obviously were this subculture in whatever time it was around (I'm guessing late 70s/Early 80s). Insufficent Gay culture in Perth to do any articles, and generally all youth culture in Australia is not city based. Pubs and Clubs are generally not interesting except for maybe history (Perth & Fremantle generally I guess). The local music scene is quite large at the moment, so that would probably be a good one to go with. Radio Station details also would be very useful. Sorry Gobeirne, but the last few suggestions are groups that are probably are remebered by maybe a handful of people in the area. [snip]

Overall, I would personally just stick to music. All the rest of the ideas listed are either [snip] Boochan 13:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I initially posted in agreement with Boochan, as he'd mentioned that much above sounded dated, and it was also potentially original research/not NPOV. However, he then edited his post to add some arguments which are just nonsense. None of the suggestions above would be seperate articles, and thus having them being "stubs" is a non-issue; rather, they would form a culture of Perth, Western Australia article. While, as Boochan mentions, there's plenty of room for a good article on the city's music scene, there's also plenty of room for a broader culture article covering not only the music, but the arts, media, and the nightlife. Furthermore, things like the city's gay culture could at least make a good paragraph or too; just because it doesn't interest you doesn't mean it won't interest anyone. Ambi 16:31, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

I will refrain from anything but assert Ambi's last sentence,

and consider "Not needed on Wikipedia" a gross misunderstanding on what it is.vcxlor 00:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Well it was a little stupid, and I guess as one article it would be fine. However a lot of it except for generally recent culture (within the last 30 years) will be very hard to come up with unless books can be found, especially sub 1950s. btw, did I say it didn't interest me? No I didn't... I was just suggesting that as single articles they would be stuck as stubs... and generally that is how it is portrated on the main article. btw, the main article also needs fixing. -_- - Anyway, no hard feelings generally - guess it was just misworded how it was edited, thus I get flamed to the shit... sorry it didn't come through like it was ment to. I also agree on a greater presence of articles on the arts & media (Defunct Newspapers, Magazines, etc and Current should be done e.g Daily Mail), but that was not mentioned previously in suggestions, or only briefly with focus on some of the things not NPOV. Plus adding to another thought (though it seems it will probably be irrelevant after reading the above comments =\ ) the presence of american servicemen did major things to everywhere not US-minded they were... lets just get back on the right foot again - Sorry if it was misworded and/or offensive (which I see it seemed to be...) Boochan 10:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

The right foot is to realise, whether it's just one art or otherwise, we need to get on with it folks!vcxlor 11:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Agreed - Shame I only know little, little bits about Perth culture to help with any articles... think i'll stick to my area of expertise (roads and such) Boochan 17:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Parks & Gardens

A Good start to this category would be grabbing an up to date street directory. This lists all Parks and Gardens in the Perth Metropolitan Area. I will try and get a list done at some time or another. Boochan 08:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Photo source

The Fremantle Port Authority website [5] has a great collection of old photos of freo and ships etc. Don't forget to tag any pre 1955 uploads with {{PD-Australia}}. -- Ian ≡ talk 18:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Train station sucession boxes

Some changes to the succession boxes for the station made by yours truly make the Joondalup line head in the same direction of Fremantle, as they do in real life. So the revised track direction looks like this;

	Up track direction	Down track direction
Armadale / Thornlie Line	to Perth	to Armadale or Thornlie
Clarkson Line	to Clarkson	to Perth
Fremantle Line	to Fremantle	to Perth
Midland Line	to Perth	to Midland

This doesn't have appeared to have caused any conflicts, so it will stay like this hopefully.

Also, regarding the Mandurah line, when it does come into service we should have the track direction the same way as Armadale/Thornlie and Midland, since it heads in that direction, and the Clarkson line will carry on to Mandurah--M W Johnson 06:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, which way is better way to represent the succession boxes? By train lines accuracy (my box mentioned in above discussion, ordered in track up/down terminology) or by real life represents (your table above)? --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 07:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Adventure World

Hi! I created the Adventure World article and don't know which category it should go in and even if it should go in a WikiProject category? Any suggestions?

dont know about a catagory but it needs a little more history to balance the article away from an advertisement.Gnangarra 22:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

schools list

This list has been created by d3j4vu I think the format needs to be adjusted to something simpler and have created a discussion on the articles talk page. Before it grows can we get some feed back as to what would be the appropriate format thanks Gnangarra 14:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm quite intersted in this area and would like to do some work on it. Before I get started though, there is a lot of overlap between 'Education in Perth' and 'Education in WA'. A lot of what appears in the Perth categories actually also exists in the WA categories. I'm particularly concerned about List_of_schools_in_Western_Australia and List of schools in Perth, Western Australia as everything in Perth is also in WA (and personally I prefer the WA list as it has a lot more info/links in it).

Personally, I don't think we need a seperate list for Perth, I think we could eliminate the Perth categories alltogether, but then it would become something outside the scope of WikiProject_Perth. --frendy 04:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Given that Perth is 74% of the state and I would say nearly all of the covered schools will be in the metro (and I agree with your WA suggestion btw) I don't see why it would not come under the WikiProject. Orderinchaos78 21:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation link repair: Perth

I guess here is as good a place as any to bring attention to the page Perth. It's a disambigaution page (which is fine), but that means that if someone accidentally uses "[[Perth]]" when they want to link to Perth, Western Australia then the reader has to make an unnessessary vist to the dab page. This can be fixed by performing disambiguation link reapir on Perth, using its What links here. I thought it might be a simple job for someone who's interested, a minor way to help this WikiProject.--Commander Keane 19:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I've done a few articles and user pages left messages where I made bigger than reasonable assumptions. Hey i even fixed a wikiproject Perth member, guys we shouldn't be making this kind of error Gnangarra 14:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

The list is now down to one page, please be careful on suburb pages when linking back Thanks Gnangarra 16:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

As you can see I spent a fair amount of my time going from page to page to fix the disambiguation of Perth. But I have now stopped because there are editors following in footsteps reverting this back Gnangarra 14:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

How do you mean reveting back? They are making umambiguous links ambiguous?--Commander Keane

That was exactly the problem one even went to the extent of creating another ambiguous link on their talk page but hey I've had a break done something else And will start agian shortly so I let you know if the issue arises again. Gnangarra 05:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Photo request for South Perth

Hi - I wonder if anyone could help with a photo of St Mary the Virgin Anglican Church, apparently in Ridge Street, South Perth? It is regarded as a good example of Australian architectural styles#Post-War Period c. 1940 - 1960. The church was designed by G H Parry. Thanks--A Y Arktos 00:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

also St Lawrence's Anglican Church in Dalkeith, thanks--A Y Arktos 00:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I live near South Perth, I'll try and get a few shots of St Mary's. Can't help on the Dalkeith one, though, I'll let you know if I get a decent one. Anyone else is welcome to get a photo, more the merrier. Riff 02:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• • I had some success with St Mary's the pictures are on my commons:User:Gnangarra account. No Joy with Dalkeith the church is obscured by trees and shrubs. Gnangarra 12:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I took Image:St Lawrence's church in Dalkeith1.jpg. It has a terrible sun spot (is that what it's called?) and shadows (if you want a good shot go in the afternoon). --Commander Keane 12:59, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Title of the WikiProject

Is that necessary to change from Perth into Perth, Australia? seems Duncharris moved that into Perth, Australia to disambig between Perth, Scotland and other cities. It needs to know others opinion regarding the title of this WikiProject. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 15:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

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Government House, Perth

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Government House, Perth, which User:Ianbrown recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Congratulations Ian!! - Gobeirne 08:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

A wikiperth meet

The Sydney wikiproject editors are planning to meet on 5th feb. What I was wondering was there sufficient interest to arrange a similar meet here in Perth. What does everybody think, leave your thoughts here. Gnangarra 05:18, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I know locality-based communities on other web sites do that (like DeviantArt, for example) I'd be up for it, I wouldn't say there's really a lot of cross-talk between wikiPerth peeps, but I'm always up for meeting new faces, could be good for future projects, etc., to at least have a general idea of who people are. I say yes. Riff 13:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, im like only 14 so i dont know... Do we all have msn or something we can use to communicate in easier formats? Nhoj1991

Nhoj1991, I know a couple of Wikipedians in Perth that use MSN (me for one). Probably the best way to find the others is to look at the user and/or talk pages of everyone in the members list to see if they have their MSN details listed. IRC is also popular with Australian Wikipedians, and there are a couple of Perth Wikipedians on IRC regularly. --Commander Keane 00:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

What network and channel? I'd be interested in meeting with internet randoms. Spook 12:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

As WP:IRC explains it's the freenode network: irc.freenode.net. You can find me in #wikipedia-bootcamp, and other Australians are scattered throughout various channels.--Commander Keane 12:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yagan

Yagan appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on February 17, 2006.

Congratulations to Snottygobble, Ian, and everyone else involved in getting this piece of Perth's history to the main page - Gobeirne 04:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Langley Park

Langley Park, Western Australia has just been created, and I nominated a Did you know for it. It would be great to get a photo. I couldn't find one in the commons.--Commander Keane 21:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 18:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats people! Perth, Western Australia is now a good article! Alvin6226 00:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

A Job Well done. Good to see the article finally up to scratch, as it has gone through a lot of crap in the past years. - Boochan 16:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Hillarys Boat Harbour

Hey, I really think that Hillarys Boat Harbour/ Sorrento Quay should have an article by now, it perths second most popular tourist attraction, second to only kings park, and there are alot of other articles that would/could link to it. Anyone up for it? Nhoj 16:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Photo Requests

Recent changes have taken place to the request for photos article, geographical location have been seperated out into categories.

For Western Australia-related articles needing a photograph, use {{reqphoto|in=Western Australia}} in the talk page, which adds the article to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Western Australia. You can help Wikipedia by uploading freely licensed photographs for these articles to Wikimedia Commons.

Use this method where the request is not an immediate necessity, and on the talk if you have a specific requirement for the photograph then leave a message.

If your request has more immediate need do above and also add a wiki link to the article on the category page as this will cause the page to appear on watchlists thus alerting everybody. Gnangarra 13:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Also remember to add this category to your watch list if can help with providing photographs Gnangarra

Black Swan Theatre Company

On the project page, under 'Tasks' there is a link to Black Swan Theatre. I made a stub at Black Swan Theatre Company because this is the official name. I am not sure how to change this on the project page and i dont want to somebody to create it under Black Swan Theatre when i have already done so at the other name. Cheers, --Ali K 05:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Sandstorm6299 :). Maybe I had a temporary lapse in vision and couldnt see the 'edit' link ;) --Ali K 09:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

1929, 1979, 2004 Information needed

These three years have celebrations to mark number of years since settlement, 1929 - 100 years, 1979 - 150 years and 2004 - 175 years. Each of these had numerous events including various buildings, plaques etc being dedicated. can everybody please keep an eye for any of these and leave a note here so that articles can be constructed. The WAY 1979 article already has a number of events listed but its not all of them. Gnangarra 11:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

A good example of 1929 is the Centennial Pavilion at the RAS (which they want to push down), and there are plaques at some sites around Perth with the RWAHS brass plaquea commemorating the people or things considered "historic" by them in 1927/29 - such as the round house, and chippers leap. hows that for a start? SatuSuro 02:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Dome

Does anyone want to have a go at fixing my Dome Coffee stub? I created it so I'd have a link for another article I was working on, but if you have more info than I, feel free to add. Orderinchaos78 14:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Confusing Train Station Navigation Boxes

For someone who is not from Perth, I find the new railway station navigation boxes confusing - for someone unfamiliar with the railway line stop categorisations, even if you can go to the Line page and look at it, it is very confusing if all you want to know is what the adjacent stations are Every other railway system with pages on Wikipedia does it this way and it is a lot easier to navigate. I suggest you put them back to just show the next station on each page or find a way to put the letter codes and the next stations on the navigation table. (JROBBO 01:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC))

Well, we tried making it as simple and yet as comprehensive as possible so that we would cover every bit of information on the routes. I don't seem to see anyway to improve it, but maybe that's because I'm from Perth, so that's why I can't pick out the bad points. Maybe you could suggest what could be done to improve it. I'm sure people here will be willing to discuss.

Here is the current template being used at Perth railway station for reference:

Preceding station (inbound)	Transperth Trains network			Following station (outbound)
to Fremantle Line		Midland Line All, A, B, E		McIver Free Transit Zone
to Midland Line		Fremantle Line All, A, B, K, L, S		City West Free Transit Zone
terminus		Armadale / Thornlie Line All, C, E, T		McIver Free Transit Zone
to Mandurah Line		Joondalup Line All, W		Leederville Zone 1
to Mandurah Line		Joondalup Line C		Warwick Zone 2
to Joondalup Line		Mandurah Line		Esplanade Free Transit Zone

Sandstorm6299 11:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

If I was a random user of Wikipedia, what I would want to find is the next station along the line geographically, not just the next station for each train. That's what isn't shown there, and I think that should be made clear. (JROBBO 02:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC))

It's been programmed in the best way for Perth's system, wouldn't the word ALL give it away? ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 12:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Wildflower pictures

Hi a new user has created an article on Wild Flower Festival with links to Kings Park, Western Australia. I looked for some wild flower pictures and couldn't find any. This is no doubt in part to incompetent searching but maybe we also need additions in this area.--A Y Arktos\^talk 22:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Try Banksia menziesii, Kangaroo Paw I also have Banksia prionote but the article isnt ready for wikipedia, try

Wikimedia Commons has media related to:

Western Australia

. Gnangarra 01:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)