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[edit] Reminder from USRD

In response to a few issues that came up, we are giving a reminder to all state highway wikiprojects and task forces:

  1. Each project needs to remain aware of developments at WT:USRD and subpages to ensure that each project is aware of decisions / discussions that affect that project. It is impossible to notify every single project about every single discussion that may affect it. Therefore, it is the state highway wikiproject's responsiblity to monitor discussions.
  2. If a project does not remain aware of such developments and complains later, then there is most likely nothing USRD can do about it.
  3. USRD, in most to nearly all cases, will not interfere with a properly functioning state highway wikiproject. All projects currently existing are "properly functioning" for the purposes mentioned here. All task forces currently existing are not "properly functioning" (that is why they are task forces). Departments of USRD (for example, MTF, shields, assessment, INNA) may have specific requirements for the state highway wikiprojects, but complaints regarding those need to be taken up with those departments.
  4. However, this is a reminder that USRD standards need to be followed by the state highway wikiprojects, regardless of the age of the wikiproject.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 05:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey guys

Hey, we need to really put some strength into the project again. Out of all 50 states, Pennsylvania is near or at the top of most articles on Wikipedia. Thanks to the efforts of some editors, a large number of stub articles were created. While doing so is helpful to any reader trying to find the basic information on a road, the project has pretty much maintained a large number of stubs - 410, approximately. I believe only Texas has more. I was pulled over to WP:NYSR to discuss turning stubs into starts. We, at the very least, need to do the same here.

Here's what we're looking for in a start-class:

  • Good lead
  • Complete route description
  • Full junction list

In a B-class, we're also looking for:

  • referenced mileposts in the junction list (using the traffic counts)
  • history

GA-class and FA-class go up for Wikipedia-wide review and A-class articles go to the A-class review within WP:USRD

So let's try to get to work, and get some of our stubs up to starts! --Son (talk) 19:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] View from the bridge

I'm not a member of this project, but I'm currently reviewing Pennsylvania Route 73 for GA. I noticed that your intersection tables used coloured rows which are read by hovering. I can't say that I'm totally happy about the table - I'm a very experienced user, and I didn't think to hover, and hovering is a facility which I don't think is available to non-registered users anyway.

Since this appears to be the current de facto or agreed project style, I haven't yet made it a GA issue, but it seems to me that a "good article" should be more transparent to non-project members, perhaps through a key or footnoting? Jimfbleak (talk) 08:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

There used to be a legend box that followed the table; however, it was removed in favor of the hover method. Personally, I'd rather abolish the shading system altogether (as I've said elsewhere) and make heavier usage of the notes column, but that decision ultimately has to be made at WP:USRD due to the national nature of the table template ({{PAint}} is little more than {{Jctint}} with state=PA coded in). --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 09:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] State of Pennsylvania project

Hey guys, with the time flying by lately, I haven't had much time to work on PA road articles. Needless to say, this project has found itself in the well of inactivity.

One thing I had done, which was several weeks ago, was move the project from WikiProject Pennsylvania State Highways to WikiProject Pennsylvania Roads. In a bold step, this better reflects what the project is.

As it stands, this project covers state routes, tollways, freeways, quadrant routes, former routes, historic turnpikes, beltways, scenic byways, and I think even Bicycle PA routes (and if I'm leaving any out, feel free to add them). I think that the coverage I just listed is what this project should cover. But if we're going to work on these articles, we need to do it in an organized manner. I have no problem trying to find out history of roads, because I'm in Harrisburg, and I can find some resources on that.

That having been said, we need people to get working on articles. While the project has worked well in the past, because of its inactivity, it's not working so well now. We need to change it. So, if you have any ideas, put them on here and we'll discuss. I also think there are two good essays to read... User:Rschen7754/Manifesto and User:Jeff02/The purpose of WikiProjects.

--Son (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Resources for PA roads articles

I'm thinking of writing some articles for roads in Pennsylvania (specifically PA 981 and PA 982), and was wondering if PennDOT publishes any resources for finding mileage, road lengths, etc. Basically, something like the Highway Location Reference published by MDSHA. Thanks for any help. - Algorerhythms (talk) 04:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

PennDOT does not provide anything of the like, but there are maps. 哦，是吗？(висчвын) 01:05, 08 April 2008 (GMT)

[edit] PA Route 940

This is definately not a minor route in PA and I think it really needs some history added to the article. I really don't have time to add it and find sources myself, but I'd appreciate it if someone would find some history on this route as the article is very short and almost unsourced. Timmeh! 23:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)