Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oz

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[edit] Early Cinematic Versions

I propose, as I have elsewhere, that we band together as a community and make out first project the documenting of the early film versions and then we need to talk about dramatic adaptations (plays and musicals). Zephyrprince 05:10, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Sure. Can you propose how to do this? [[User:JonMoore|— —Jo nMo ore 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 23:02, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

This will actually be a bit easier by the end of October when the new 3-DVD set will include the silent movies. Also, consider including (or involving?) John Fricke somehow, he's probably the best living historian on Judy Garland/Oz. --JohnDBuell | Talk 19:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I've added a page on The Magic Cloak of Oz and added to The Fairylogue and Radio-Plays, His Majesty, the Scarecrow of Oz and The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (1910 film). I've added a little bit to Wizard of Oz (1925 film). I should be doing The Patchwork Girl of Oz (1914 film) within the next week or so, as well as a page on The Oz Film Manufacturing Company. I also added a page on Louis F. Gottschalk. Scottandrewhutchins 03:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Scottandrewhutchins

[edit] New Oz categories

I (along with User:The stuart) have created some new Oz categories, to help better sort Oz articles. I am also currently trying to get approval for Oz stub categories. Thanks for all the help. [[User:JonMoore|— —Jo nMo ore 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 02:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Roger S. Baum

I've started a page on Roger S. Baum. Include/expand as you see fit. --JohnDBuell | Talk 19:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured article The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

This article was nominated on Featured article removal candidates on November 6th. *Exeunt* Ganymead ^Dialogue? 19:01, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-Class and good B-Class articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles on the The Wizard of Oz? Obvoiusly, a featured article like The Wonderful Wizard of Oz would be suitable. Please post your suggestions here. Cheers!--Shanel 04:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please vote

I've set forth a proposal for splitting much of the content currently on The Wonderful Wizard of Oz into a seperate article, The Wizard of Oz as allegory. I'd appreciate your votes and input on this matter. See: Talk:The Wonderful Wizard of Oz --Woggly 08:41, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Wicked"

I've started adding different articles about the actors/actresses associated with Wicked. Any help would be appreciated! --Conor 22:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Return to Oz disambiguation

I added the 1964 Return to Oz (television special) and Return to Oz (disambiguation). Return to Oz was left defaulted to the 1985 movie. Dl2000 01:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where did the scarecrow, tinman and lion come from?

I am quite interested where I missed the transformation of the humans into the scarecrow and tinman. I was under the impression that Fiero was changed into the scarecrow from Elphaba.

The musical is very unfaithful to its many sources. The tin man was orginally a man named Nick Chopper. The wicked book and the orginal oz books confirm this. also the the other two were always what they are now. A scarecrow and a lion. They were never human. Also Never use Wicked to explain the orginal books or any of the movies. The book is more faithfull to the orginal works, but it should be considerd carfully.Lego3400: The Sage of Time 18:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject tag and book articles

I noticed that only a few of the Oz book articles actually had the OzWikiproject tag included, so I've taken the liberty of adding it to all of them. I also added the tag for Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels since it had already been added to a few of the early books and my attitude is you might as well include all of them. The Novels Wikiproject incidentally has developed an infobox for books that might be useful if added to the various Oz book articles. 23skidoo 17:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Video game

If i recall correctly (which i do) there was a side scrolling Video game based of THE wizard of oz movie. The game was for SNES. just wanted to note that. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 18:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

Just so you guys know, I'm working on adding your {{Oz-project}} to all the articles found in Category:Oz using AWB because they are all within your scope. Cbrown1023 15:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I added the {{Oz-project}} tag to about 100 articles. I also created Cat:WikiProject Oz articles and made it so any article in which your banner is added to automatically gets added to the category also. Cbrown1023 21:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The {{Oz-project}} has been added to Lost Girls (the new Alan Moore graphic novel -- mature content) but I'm not sure if this should really be included - does anyone from this project want to pop over and have a look? Curiousbadger 21:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically, it belongs in the project since it is a book about an Oz character (Dorothy Gale is in it)... It was added because it was an Cat:Oz books. Don't know what to say, it should probably stay because it does relate to the scope of the project as identified by the project banner. Cbrown1023 22:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look - keeping the tag is fine by me but I just wanted to run it past people at this end incase it was a bot edit, just because the contents of the book are, ah, somewhat different from the rest of the Oz canon! Curiousbadger 22:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Complaints

If I'm totally out of order writing this complaint here, please let me know. I'm complaining that I added data on the Tik-Tok and Humpty Dumpty pages the other day and they've been edited. The editing itself is by and by, but that the discussion pages on those articles have no-one say "I deleted these paragraphs because..." is what bugs me. Isn't there an etiquette about these things...? *grrr*. [User: Stripey].

[edit] Sherwood Smith books

How do these books fit into the Oz canon: The Emerald Wand of Oz and Trouble Under Oz. The books themselves make it quite clear (through a sticker on the cover) that they are fully authorized by the Baum Trust and that Sherwood Smith is a "Royal Historian". However, apart from the stub articles that I have created, there doesn't seem to be much mention of her an an Oz author. She has been commissioned to write four Oz stories so far and I assume they are canonical. Jonks 10:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] General Jinjur/Jinjur

Hello- I've been working on the disambig for Oz and I noticed there are two existing pages for the character Jinjur :General Jinjur and Jinjur. Since I am not that fluent in the world of Oz, I'll leave someone here to decide which is the more appropriate page and fix the double. Hope this helps. Thanks! --Cabiria 05:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

It's been some time, and nobody's done anything about this, so I added a sentence about Matilda Joslyn Gage to Jinjur and turned General Jinjur into a redirect. Hope that's OK. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 00:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Todd McFarlane "Twisted Land of Oz"

The articles for the major characters from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz contain descriptions of the horrifically distorted versions created for a toy line by Todd McFarlane. Unlike adaptations such as Wicked, or even Lost Girls, this toy line has no particular cultural impact as far as I can tell. I can't see why these versions of the characters would be considered encyclopedic. Would anyone object if they were removed? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Right, in the absence of any objection (here or at Talk:McFarlane Toys, where I also mentioned it) I'm going to remove them. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

So you're like "Mr. Censorship" now?! Who cares if it has a cultural impact? It is pop culture! Or art! Or whatever! In a pedia that has articles about almost everything under the sun, why remove something because you apparently don't like it. The figurines each come with a chapter in the twisted story that was created as a backdrop for the toy line. This story version is no worse than Wicked - so why would you remove it?Phx Johnny 00:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed it because I couldn't find any indication that these toys were notable. I know that Todd McFarlane is noteworthy, but was there any discussion of these toys in major media? Even in comics media? If there was, please provide it and the content can be restored, with citations to whatever reliable sources discuss them and their versions of the Oz characters. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexual significance of Oz?

(Cross-posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies)

I've just read Gregory Maguire's introduction to A Wonderful Welcome to Oz, a compendium of three of Baum's Oz novels. In it, he says in passing (while talking about the gender change of the boy Tip to the girl Ozma), "...nor do I interest myself, here, in the reasons why Oz has become a metaphor for the safe and welcoming home for which gay men have long longed." This made me wonder whether there are sources which have discussed the significance of Oz for gay men in the 20th century. It's certainly entered the language — we all know what a "friend of Dorothy" signifies — but I've never seen an explanation of why Oz is so commonly connected with gay culture. (It probably has something to do with Judy Garland.) Now, obviously we can't engage in original research on this subject; so I was wondering whether there are reliable sources which have addressed this connection, and if so, what articles could or should incorporate mention of this appropriation. If Batman can sustain an entire section on Batman#Homosexual interpretations, surely there's some Oz article which has room for "the gay". —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 00:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinks

An awful lot of redlinks and a very listy "Music" section have been added to The Wizard of Oz (1902 stage play). Would some project members take a look? Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oz comics

There are a number of comics listed under Oz books including Dorothy (comic book), Oz (comic book series), Oz Squad, Lost Girls and The Enchanted Apples of Oz (as well as a number of other red links) and I was wondering if, "Category: Oz comics," a child of Oz book might be a more suitable place to collect them (or even something under the Oz category parallel to the books) and also under Category: Comics based on fiction (and possibly Category: Fantasy comics). I thought it best to check with you first to make sure you are OK with this. (Emperor (talk) 16:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC))