Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ottawa/Archive 1
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Naming Conventions
I disagree with some of the naming conventions. We should conform to general Wikipedia rules. There is no need for the article to be named "Sparks Street (Ottawa)" as there is o other Sparks Street in the world deserving of an encyclopedia article. The same goes for Cairine Wilson Secondary School. As to embassies I think it is always best to use their official names. The Russian embassy refers to itself as the "Embassy of the Russian Federation in Canada" not in Ottawa [1]. - SimonP 14:33, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
- We're discussing that over at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ottawa/General --Spinboy 17:09, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Ottawa Travel Guide?
I noticed in WikiBooks that there is an [Ottawa Travel Guide] page. Anybody on WikiProject Ottawa interested in making this slightly palatable? --RealGrouchy 20:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Sports
I've done some touching up to the Frank Clair Stadium (hope U of O and Carleton U Alumnus aren't upset with the Panda Bowl comments--I removed the "North Side Sucks" references) and Ottawa Civic Centre sites. Perhaps anyone with hockey background might want to describe the ECHL that played in the former arena in the early 1960s, and while just one concert at Lansdowne was mentioned (Rolling Stones 8/05), I'm surprised there's no reference to the Ottawa EX?? BTW, I might be interested in tackling a couple of the Church Histories, if anyone more local isn't interested
Bacl-presby 18:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
BTW, someone added the "Northside Sucks!/Southside Sucks!" to Frank Clair Stadium again--is that a real highlight of Ottawa Life?? I'm surprised the Jerry Springerish idea of the Renegade owners for women to take off their tops for a necklace at Renegade games wasn't included! Bacl-presby 22:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Just revised the entry to NHL Coaching wizard, Roger Neilson. When the "Roger's Place" opens at CHEO, I trust some revision can be made to CHEO's site. BTW, any local Ottawa feature apart from the Coaches Room at Scoatiabank Place and a AAA Peewee Hockey Division to be renamed after him?? (Park, Arena, Street?) Bacl-presby 23:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)23:36, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Max Keeping
Added an article on Max Keeping. Would appreciate comments/changes. -- Samir ∙ T C 06:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Added article on Carol Anne Meehan. Ardenn 05:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- But who has information to to write one on JJ clark? cmacd 18:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Ardeth Wood/Jennifer Teague
Also added an article on Ardeth Wood. Appreciate any comments. -- Samir ∙ T C 07:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Certainly notable for local Wikipedians - not sure if others outside will say so. Anyways, I've mentionned it also in the Barrhaven article mentionning that it was similar to the Jennifer Teague case which could also be subject for an article if anybody from Ottawa agrees that her case will be article worthy (forget those outside Ottawa (we will tag the Wikiproject Ottawa on the article if needed). --JForget 01:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Peacekeeping Monument
Just added this, being surprised that it did not previously exist; any additions would be appreciated... Radagast 20:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Ottawa neighborhoods
I'm uncertain what neighborhood of Ottawa I'm classified as living in. Is Bell/417 considered Centertown West or Hintonburg? (Not sure where to ask this so please forgive me) Thanks. - Image:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 09:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Ottawa has many neighbourhoods, but no neighborhoods. :-) Skeezix1000 14:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- I'd say you live in either Centretown West or Little Italy, not Hintonburg --Someones life 18:59, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
24 sussex
Hi there, not sure if this is the right place to ask or not, but it'd be great if someone in Ottawa could get a photo of 24 Sussex Drive from the front. cheers, Ouuplas 01:43, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation
Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Edinburgh News
New Edinburgh News, a community newspaper in Ottawa, has been nominated for deletion. Have your say, and if you can help improve the article to better demonstrate notability, please do? Thank you! Samaritan 23:30, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Parliamentary cats
Everybody's favourite Ottawa feature, the Parliamentary cats now have their own article! I'd appreciate any help with the article over the next while, bring it up to a respectable level. If any of you could get a nice shot of their houses, I got back to Welland and realised all the photos I'd taken looked like crap :\ Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 23:32, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Sparks street building
Hi, I need someone in Ottawa to do me a big favor. I would like some research done. I am currently working on a plan to expand Northwest Territories Legislative Building I would like to include the historical legislatures: ie: NWT Government House in Battleford the Territorial Legisalture in Regina. I also want to know which building the Territorial Government sat in, while in Ottawa. I know it is on Sparks Street. But I can't find anything relating to an address, or if the building still exists. I know there is still a government office on sparks street relating to the NWT, but I can't say for sure if it is the same one that the Legislative Council used. If someone in Ottawa could possibly use local resources to dig this information up I would be greatfull. --Cloveious 21:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
OC Transpo
Hello everyone, I'm new to this project but being an Ottawa native, I still am proud to be where I am from and continue to strive to help the community know more. That being said, I was reviewing many articles and had come up on the OC Transpo page and saw no mention of the 1999 incident. I've added some information of it and have tried to google more information but alas, an incident 7 years old is hard to come by information at this stage. If any of you have old articles saved up in regards to this, please post what you can. I will also be creating subpages of the victims once I am able to find pics that can be posted up for them as well. -- Eric B ( T • C • W ) 11:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Tulip Festival (Ottawa)
I've added some pics to the page that were taken this year. Saw this as a ToDo on the project page... hope more people can add some! -- Eric B ( T • C • W ) 03:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Feature on Ottawa Citizen
I'd just like to mention that there was an article about Wikiproject Ottawa on the Ottawa Citizen today (May 15, 2006) on the first page of the City section! --Dandin1 22:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Should I have warned everyone? :-D -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Here is a link if anyone is interested: [2] -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Bells Corners
I added to the article on the Bells Corners neighbourhood --ottawaowl
Rockcliffe Park
Is there any reason why Rockcliffe Park's page mentions that "[ma]ny ambassadors to Canada also live in Rockcliffe, including the ambassadors of Israel, Norway, the United States of America, and the Papal Nuncio."? There are dozens and dozens of residences of ambassadors here, so why were these chosen over all the others for enumeration? -- Lxl 20:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- It seems somewhat random. The United States is a prominent country and the Papal Nuncio has one of the most palatial estates, but Israel and Norway seem to be quite arbitrary choices. - SimonP 21:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree regarding the seeming randomness. Perhaps a list of ambassadors' residences could be included (even though this does sound like overkill)? As far as "prominent countr[ies]" go, of which the US is clearly one, we could add Japan, Russia, India, Germany, Spain,.... -- Lxl 07:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Canadian city naming convention
To try to get a good consensus, I am posting at all Canadian regional wikiprojects: Wikipedia talk:Canadian wikipedians' notice board#Canadian city naming convention. Thanks! -- Usgnus 21:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Neighbourhood question
Hello, does anyone know what the neighbourhood south of Hintonburg is? The one between the Queensway and Carling west of the O-Train line. Thanks, -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
That's known as Civic Hospital.
- Yep, I figured that. I just thought it was a weird name for a neighbourhood. -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Former resident
I currently live in Vancouver, but I spent the first 21 years of my life in Ottawa, and I'd be happy to contribute what I know.
Since I'm rather new to Wikipedia in general, I thought I should ask how best to go about that. Any suggestions?
-- Purplezart 08:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Sports and Recreation facilities
I was putting an Ottawan tag on the article on Donald jackson, when I noticed that his current occupation at the Minto Skating club was not mentioned. I did a dummy link in that article. And added the club under buildings.
I wonder if some of the other sports clubs and faciflites might be worthy. (Bell Sensplex, Kanata Rec center, various currling clubs? cmacd 13:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Terry Kilrea on Vfd
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Terry_Kilrea. It would be foolish to have this page deleted, no matter how much I detest his politics. -- Earl Andrew - talk 01:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Quite old but it goes beyond my mind that someone nominated this on AfD! Terry Kilrea is a candidate for the election, one of the top 3, he is an (libellous info removed by Joshuapaquin, see WP:BLP) member which makes him somewhat important in the race. It's his second try of being Chiarelli... Some people should do more research.. *Vote Munter.. Shameless plug :)* --Deenoe 02:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
move COM here to take it off main page
This is so far out of date, lets hide it here until someone brigs it up to date..
Collaboration of the Month
For the Ottawa Collaboration of the Month, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottawa/COTM.
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Since This is aperently now dead, I have "been Bold" and moved it here..
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The article being discussed here is a nominee for Ottawa collaboration of the month. If you wish to add your vote on it, please go to WP:OCOTM.
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Discussion on Canada notice board
Please see the discussion about deleting one of {{Ottawa-stub}} or {{Ottawa-area-stub}}. Thanks. Mindmatrix 21:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
OC transpo route articles.
I see that many of the OC transpo route articles have been proposed for deletion as being non-encylopedian.
I would say that I can see both sides of that issue, and do find the comment that someone made that they could not even determine where OC transpo was located as being a sign that the series is at the least in need of work.
On the other hand, if we are a city that is linked tith it's transit system, the transit links may be an important component of the overall package. I also personaly have the attitude that once an article is written leaving it around may allow someone to find a clue in whatever search they may have for information. That it the attitude that I would take.
Anyway, visit OC Transpo Route 118 and follow the link if you have any thought on the matter. cmacd 18:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Shopping Centres
Pretty soon, I'll possibly create articles for St. Laurent (article just started), Les Promenades de l'Outaouais and Carlingwood shopping centres as they are the major malls without articles so far. So far, Bayshore is very detailled (put will need to retrace the history of the mall), while Rideau Centre & Place d'Orleans have pages too.--JForget 23:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Could I also suggest the Kanata Centrum and Pinecrest Big Box plazas, that also represent some signifigance...on a recent visit to Kanata, found the "walk" reminisant of many a 1950s plaza that were covered over in the 1970s!! Bacl-presby 00:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I've put Kanata Centrum and Riocan Marketplace in the list of Ottawa buildings or should say shopping centres that could be fitted for an article notably because of its importance for suburban residents and also the indication of rapid growth in Kanata and Barrhaven and need for closer shopping areas.. I doubt Pinecrest, despite its anchor tenant IKEA will pass since there is a lot less stores and services then the previous two and the fact that they are mostly home-improvement type stores (IKEA, Linen-Chest, Corbeil, Sears (decoration?) store, Michael's, etc). so i've put only the Centrum and the Marketplace for now. Now since Carlingwood will be saved from deletion (likely as their is only one in favor of deletion with a least a dozen in favor to keep tje article), I will probably start an article for les Promenades de l'Outaouais soon as it is the second largest in total space in the region. I think they are close to 200 stores (although lots of vacant space). Plus they just acquired the new Costco store last spring. --JForget 23:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Just created Les Promenades de l'Outaouais with some history info, although there could be more to be added especially during the early years of its existence, although i've did the history regarding the closure of the former Eaton and K-Mart and the expension and the new Costco--JForget 01:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Save Carlingwood from deletion
Someone, most likely not from Ottawa wants to delete this page please go to this talk page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlingwood Mall to make this article stay as it is one of the most important malls. I've also put Wikiproject Ottawa tags in the talk, deletion and article pages. --JForget 21:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Vince Bevan
FYI : I created an article for Vince Bevan, but it's currently under Criteria for Speedy Deletion. The criteria is "Unremarkable person"... --Deenoe 14:02, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Saved the article from deletion ;) --Deenoe 14:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Mayoral milestone
As of today, there are now pages on every Bytown/Ottawa/new Ottawa mayor, including a string of succession boxes. Some mayor pages are stub-grade or could use extra detail, however. Then there are the former municipalities that could be filled in e.g. Nepean Township, Ontario Dl2000 18:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Pictures would be great too, for infoboxes. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Articles for people requests
I removed Barkley Pollock and Jane Scharf from the article request list. They are not really big candidates, so I don't really see the point. --Deenoe 16:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Dr. Shiv Chopra
Greetings fellow members of WP:Ottawa. I just created a new article on Dr. Shiv Chopra. Dr.Shiv Chopra was a whistle blower in Public Service and if anyone has input, they can add :) --Deenoe 23:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Userbox
I've created a userbox for Project members:
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If you look in the page history, there are three versions; a basic "beige" and three different combinations of red & white. I'm starting a discussion on the talk page to vote on which one we should use, or if we should have several to choose from.
— Editor at Large ( talk) 20:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
You have to move the userbox to your user namespace. --Deenoe 20:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Proposed Move of Gatineau
- Gatineau, Quebec → Gatineau … Rationale: Gatineau already redirects to Gatineau, Quebec, and the name is unique so there is no risk of confusion with another city or town. The proposed move is consistent with the Canadian naming convention ("Places which either have unique names or are unquestionably the most significant place sharing their name, such as Quebec City or Toronto, can have undisambiguated titles"), and is in line with recent moves of Canadian cities such as Lethbridge, Saskatoon, Edmonton, etc. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Gatineau, Quebec. Skeezix1000 11:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- It has been moved. Skeezix1000 19:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Recent updates, articles and photos added.
Greetings. I'm fairly new at the wikipedia thing, but have begun adding Ottawa content, as well as adding in photos. I just discovered this project, and I'm happy to be part of the effort.
Recent updates include: Canada Dance Festival (text and photo), Ottawa Chamber Music Festival (text and photos), Ottawa Bluesfest (photos), Ottawa Dragon Boat Race Festival (photo), Julian Armour (photo), Michaëlle Jean (photo), Tulip Festival (Ottawa) (photo), and RA Photo Club (new article - text and photos)
I'm still getting a feel for how to best add stuff, so feedback and coaching most welcome.
Cheers, Binary Rhyme
Proposed move
- Frank Clair Stadium at Lansdowne Park → Frank Clair Stadium. Discussion at Talk:Frank Clair Stadium at Lansdowne Park. Skeezix1000 12:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
The project template
I've just done 34 edits where I added the {{ottawaproject}}. A LOT of articles related to Ottawa aren't put under the project. --Deenoe 02:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
CfR - Category:Settlers of the National Capital Region of Canada
...has been proposed for renaming. Discussion is here, in case you're interested. --HKMarksTALKCONTRIBS 04:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 18:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OC Transpo Route 95
A user outside of Ottawa had nominated the articles of Routes 95, 96 and 97 for deletion. However, considering these are notable (which was not for the other previous deleted articles) due to service through a unique transit corridor the Transitway and serving various touristic areas across the National Capital Region, it is important to keep these three articles save or at least merged into the OC Transpo article.--JForget 21:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I've stored copies of the three articles in my User Page as well, so if it's deleted, these articles will still be accessible from there. Should have did the same for the rest before.--JForget 21:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Wow, 95, 96 and 97 ARE notable. If we follow this way of thinking, we should remove Montreal's Subway, Toronto Subway, etc... --Deenoe 21:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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- That's probably a signal that the articles on the 96 and the 97 will need expansion. I've did a massive expansion on the 95 before, but haven't done it with the two others. For the 96 and 97, I'll try to limit the description on the Lincoln Fields/Hurdman section for the two (as the 95 article covers it) while more concentrating on anything west of Bayshore for the 96 and the southeast transitway for the 97. I'll just wait for the results before proceeding to this expansion.--JForget 22:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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I've noted this on the project page, as well....don't let it happen, vote NOW!Bacl-presby 23:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Apparently, Proto just chopped a large section of the Route 95 section before the outcome.
Also, anyone had web sources on history of the route 95 maybe we should make it similar to this for exemple : [[3] --JForget 20:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Just rv; remove vandalism??
Bacl-presby 21:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I've just posted in the Canadian Public Transportation Forum (Ottawa area) [4], a group of transit fans to see if anyone has sites that can contain history about the Transit Routes 95, 96 and 97 (including an older version of route 96) When the info is out, the changes will be drastict. I'm think essentially the utility of the route along with its history and recent and future changes as well as key destinations along its way along with an infobox just like it was done with route 99 before it was canned The older versions would still exist in my user pages, but will add also new details there except the photos if any.--JForget 03:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- I've just completely wrote back the full OC Transpo Route 96 article concentrating more on history rather then description. It is much more encyclopedic now? --JForget 02:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
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- My oh my... Bloody hell yes! Good job! Deenoe 12:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The 95 and 97 articles also got the same faith, although early history will need some more extensive research though as it is mostly just recent history. Added also communities served by the three (including future ones)--JForget 20:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- AfD Decision.....Keep....(see discussion)Bacl-presby 18:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Ottawa Roads - delete request and missing sources
Not only is User:Proto (from Wales, UK) seeking to toast the route 95/96/97 articles, but also threw in a delete request on Trim Road. Perhaps more reasonable was Proto's sources tags on Riverside Drive and Airport Parkway - we should indeed drop some sources into the Ottawa roads/streets articles. Dl2000 00:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Definitely with the urban sprawl underaway routes such Trim, Limebank, Albion, the Airport Parkway and Earl Armstong will definitely be notable in the future due to high volume of traffic, urban development and in some cases used by the O-Train if they don't canned the projects. I've mentionned in the talk page that if deleted Trim will likely be re-created afterwards in a year or two.--JForget 20:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, I can do roads articles fairly well if you want any help people! --SunStar Net 20:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hugo Girard
I was amazed to see that despite being a World Champion in the Strongmen Competiton and is one of the major contributors to the development of this sport in Canada, he didn't have an article. Well no more, I've just launch a new article about him. Go take a look and do any additions or corrections if necessary. I will probably check afterwards about additionnal detail especially an update on his return and rehab situations. I know he had a serious foot injury in 2004 that force him to miss most of 2005 and 2006 --JForget 20:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Steve Desroches & Shad Qadri
With the newly created articles of the two new faces on council, every councillor for the next term has an article now.--JForget 15:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Gatineau councillors
Would it be appropriate if we have the chance to create pages for member of the Gatineau City Council? No councillors actually in office have a web page. Only former councillors Lawrence Cannon (a Conservative MP) and Marc Bureau (current mayor of Gatineau) have articles.--JForget 18:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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- All 17 current councillors now have articles, although will need some expension in many of them (maybe you can help me on that). A new category has been added (Category:Gatineau councillors). I have also added an article on former Gatineau mayor Robert Labine.--JForget 00:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Ottawa Roads
I also noticed that several semi-important roads have no articles yet. Since some may not be article-worthy, I've redirected some of them to articles of other routes (ex:Vanier Parkway & River Road with Riverside Drive, St. Patrick Street with Beechwood Avenue and Pinecresr Road with Greenbank Road. Some brief description of the roads that are redirected are mentionned in the article that it is redirected. I wondering if it's a good idea to do it that way.--JForget 19:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Schools in Gatineau
I have also noticed plenty of articles on schools (even primary ones) in Ottawa and I was wondering if it would be necessary to create articles about schools in Gatineau, at least the High schools (i.e Mont-Bleu, L'Erabliere, Nicolas-Gatineau, etc. Please feel free to comment about that here on my talk page Thanks!--JForget 01:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Certainly the high schools deserve articles. The elementary schools only deserve one if there is something special about them. - SimonP 14:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- All high-schools are notable, but the Wiki policy states that we add them if they have been established since more than a 100 years, or have a special concentration. For the primary schools, as far as I know, there's only Pierre Eliott Trudeau, first school in Ontario to be named after him. --Deenoe 14:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I haven't really plan on doing the elementary schools, that would be ridiculously long. No, I will just do the high schools. I've seen that St-Alexandre also had an article which I haven't detected until I've made my run with the Ottawa Templates. So it would be at least 7 articles on high schools to do. The CEGEP de l'Outaouais article would be in dire need of a major expansion. Although it won't be probably for at least a couple of weeks or not before I finish my exam week, that will be next week. I have possible major plans for new articles related to Gatineau. I have plans to do also articles on major neighborhoods such as downtown Hull (or Old Hull), Le Plateau, Mont-Bleu, Limbour, Wychwood, Pointe-Gatineau, etc since there have been a trend like this for the Ottawa neighborhoods. There would be at least a good 12-15 of them that would warrant an article. Then afterwards, there would be 17 articles on the councillors in Gatineau.I don't think there is a need for additionnal road articles except maybe one or two (probably Buckingham's main street would be one).--JForget 18:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created articles for Saint-Joseph, L'Erabliere, Le Carrefour, Du Versant, Nicolas-Gatineau, De l'Ile & Mont-Bleu. Hormidas-Gamelin doesn't seem to have a website just yet (maybe I can search more later). I've also created article for the Commission Scolaire des Portages-de-l'Outaouais & Commission Scolaire des Draveurs school boards. I'm just following the trend of Ottawa. Yep there will be some stuff to add in the future. Some of their websites are just having a lack of details.JForget 02:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Categorization
I've seen that Prescott-Russell template categorized the pages in a category, so I added this to the category. The talkpages, to appear, have to be edited and resaved. --Deenoe 03:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Improper CILV-FM edits
The page for LiVE 88.5 FM is being improperly and repeatedly edited by an anonymous IP - see Talk:CILV-FM for summary of the problems. The recent changes go as far to claim the page to be "edited by station representatives" (apparent WP:COI/NPOV violation). It's something of an edit war, but project members are encouraged to revert any out-of-WP-policy edits on the page. Dl2000 02:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
New template from Eva Avila
I recently created this new template in honor for our latest and hometown Canadian Idol.
See:User: JForget/Eva Avila --JForget 01:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- According to the photo image page, it's under a fair use licence and is currently under threat of deletion. You'll need to replace it with something that's free-licenced. Dl2000 18:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Capitol Cinema (Ottawa)
“ | was the largest and most impressive movie theatre | ” |
Any one care to cite the most impressive bit? -- Zanimum 16:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- As no citiation came forward, that part was deleted as POV. Dl2000 01:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Terry Kilrea's picture
Looks like the pricture of Terry that was on the page has been deleted for not being fully credited. The only one I have of him was from when he was about 8. anyone have a good replecement cmacd 18:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Google Earth#Wikipedia_and_Panoramio_mashup
I'd highly recommend starting to use these geotags on everything, like this {{coor title d|43.558509|N|79.712452|W|type:landmark}}. Literally everything, except people, should have a tag, so it shows up on the map. Historic events, malls, office buildings, whatever there's an article on. Even something "non-locational" like OC Transpo Route 95 should be marked, perhaps at Fallowfield Station. I've done all the article in Brampton and Mississauga, and it wasn't too too time consuming. -- Zanimum 20:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- After downloading Google Earth for the first time I was blown away at how great it looks to have Wikipedia articles showing up by default. I added coordinate tags to almost 50 different Ottawa articles, I think most Ottawa-related stuff will now show up in Google Earth. --Padraic 02:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
O-Train and its expansion project cancellation
Okay, I've visited most articles that have mentionned the O-Train and its project and modified verb tense and mentionned its cancellation. --Booyah! 21:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Micael Poters warplane collection
Their was a Spitfire as a featured picture today, and so I went though the article and did not find Mr. Potters plane listed as an "operational spitfire", Do we have anything on his collection? it is housed in gatineau, but he is an ottawa business person. The articles on all the planes in his collection should point back to the collection. cmacd 13:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Template for Ottawa Roads
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Does it some modifications before I proceed on putting it on all Ottawa roads articles? Thanks!--JForget 17:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- 1. Title should be more like "Ottawa, Ontario roads" as "arteries" may not make it clear to many readers this is about roads;
- 2. Title should embed a link to List of Ottawa, Ontario roads;
- 3. Template seems a bit "tall" with much space to the sides - would a 2-column approach look better?
- 4. Would a functional grouping by road class (provincial, city freeway, arterial road, major collector, federal road, etc) be better? (see List of Ottawa, Ontario roads) It seems more difficult and arbitrary to find particular roadways by "Avenue", "Drive", "Street" , etc.
- 5. Should include link to Ottawa, Ontario numbered roads.
- Dl2000 19:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I've Reclassified the roads in four categories. Probably the classification of certain roads may be disputed, but go to Template:Ottawa Roads if any want to change either the style or the classification of one particular road. I've also added links inside the template to the list of Ontario provinicial highways, the list of numbered roads in Ottawa and the NCC.--JForget 20:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikiproject Ottawa templates in Gatineau articles
User:GreenJoe has been proceeding on deleting the Wikiproject Ottawa template on Gatineau articles, but the template itself specifies that the project includes articles within the National Capital Region and that according to the article National Capital Region (Canada) it does includes Gatineau as well as Cantley, Chelsea and other surronding areas and the templates thus must be kept. I've sent him a message in regards to that.--JForget 19:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Does not. The project name says Ottawa, not Gatineau. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottawa/General. GreenJoe 19:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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- That's a somewhat unilateral move, GreenJoe. The template did refer both to Ottawa and the National Capital Region, so was in fact, correctly applied to those articles. If you have issues with the scope of the template or the wikiproject, the better approach would have been to have raised it here, because some editors might not agree with your proposed solution. Personally, I believe Ottawa and Gatineau are both in the same metropolitan region and both form the National Capital Region, so it seems logical to have them subject to the same template and Wikiproject. Perhaps the image on the template and/or the name of the Wikiproject need changing. That would be my approach, although others may disagree. That's why consensus should be achieved before making such significant edits. Skeezix1000 19:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- You never achieved consensus. You made a similar unilateral move. I went and checked. GreenJoe 19:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Besides, this change affects not just the stupid template, but the entire project and really, you should have discussed it here, not on some template talk page, and gave plenty of notice. GreenJoe 19:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- You never achieved consensus. You made a similar unilateral move. I went and checked. GreenJoe 19:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- That's a somewhat unilateral move, GreenJoe. The template did refer both to Ottawa and the National Capital Region, so was in fact, correctly applied to those articles. If you have issues with the scope of the template or the wikiproject, the better approach would have been to have raised it here, because some editors might not agree with your proposed solution. Personally, I believe Ottawa and Gatineau are both in the same metropolitan region and both form the National Capital Region, so it seems logical to have them subject to the same template and Wikiproject. Perhaps the image on the template and/or the name of the Wikiproject need changing. That would be my approach, although others may disagree. That's why consensus should be achieved before making such significant edits. Skeezix1000 19:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Your little change affects the entire WikiProject Ottawa, by changing the scope to include Gatineau and the NCR. You say it affects just the template. YOU ARE WRONG. It affects the project. You really should propose this to be re-named to WikiProject NCR if that is what you want. The founder himself told us that the scope was mean to just be Ottawa. GreenJoe 19:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- As for WP:CON, you too are guilty of ignoring it. You never got consensus to change that template. GreenJoe 19:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Not clear what you are talking about. Even if you have problems with other editors, that does not entitle you to ignore WP:CON. Please engage in discussion before you go making significant changes, as not everyone necessarily agrees with your wholesale edits today. Skeezix1000 19:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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- My last edit to the template conformed with WP:CON. Before making any unilateral edit, I raised the issue on the talk page, and posted notice of the issue on both Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/discussion and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ottawa/General. I waited two weeks, nobody objected, so I made the edit. In other words, I did not make a unilateral change, and I gave other editors the opporunity to comment or object.
In any event, what I may have done, or may not have done, is not relevant. What "the founder" may or may not have told you is irrelevant. What is relevant is WP:CON, and if you want to make significant changes, esp. when there are other editors who seem taken aback by them, then allow for there to be a discussion first.
Oh, and welcome back Spinboy. Skeezix1000 20:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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NOTICE IS GIVEN THAT the scope of WikiProject Ottawa is being [debated]. Your input is requested. Thank you. GreenJoe 20:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
The official "What is the scope" debate
The issue: Does this WikiProject include Gatineau and the other areas of the National Capital Region, or not? I vote no. GreenJoe 20:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- I would disagree with the proposed change to the template, and would suggest that the scope of the Project logically includes both Ottawa and Gatineau. The area is one metropolitan region, and forms the National Capital Region. It seems silly to have a project that includes the National Gallery of Canada, but ignores that Canadian Museum of Civilization that is barely a stone's throw away. It's one urban area - let's have one project. Skeezix1000 20:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- The debate is here because that is what is on users talk pages. GreenJoe 20:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
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My new toy of joy
Fellow Wikipedians, I am proud to announce that I am now an owner of a Digital Camera : Panasonic DSC-FZ7, close enough to a SLR. Which means, I can now take pictures for Wikipedia. When I get a second (weekends, March break, summer vacation), I will probably go throught the list of articles needing pictures and clear it. Enjoy! --Deenoe 14:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Awesome. Look forward to seeing the pictures. -Joshuapaquin 19:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
A bot?
I don't know if the interest is here.. but I was thinking.. would you guys like a bot to categorize and stick a template to Ottawa-related articles. (Instead of having to categorize the article, and add the temple to the talk page, just having to add the article name to a list) If the interest is here, I am willing to code it. (If you need any other bot, you still can ask for it.. I might be able to do it) --Deenoe 02:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Elgin Theatre (Ottawa) cited in Metro
For those with access to Ottawa's Metro free daily, today's issue (11 January 2007, Sir John A. Macdonald's birthday), on the top of page 3 has a factbite on the Elgin Theatre, source is credited to Wikipedia. The PDF of the online edition [5] might disappear tomorrow morning, though. Dl2000 23:48, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
should we have biographies!
I have worked on Paciocco an Ottawa prof., Should we allow people to be part of the category:WikiProject Ottawa? --CyclePat 18:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
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Wikimeet
How did it go? Did you take pictures? Sorry I couldn't come. --Deenoe 11:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Not bad. Only myself, Simon and User:Dl2000 showed up. We were looking for you! You missed your chance to meet Simon, he'll be gone as of Sunday.
And no, pictures weren't taken. I'm really getting frustrated with organizing meetups as not enough people ever show up. -- Earl Andrew - talk 07:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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Photos needed - Trip downtown tomorrow
I'm finishing school early tomorrow. As a result, I will be chilling downtown with ma homies. I intend taking a few pictures if needed. Question : Is the Canadian Police Memorium, behind Parliment Center block, accesible during winter? How? Thanks. *Please if there is really urgent pictures, ask them here, now, and give me a rough location* --Deenoe 21:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Vernon White
I am planning on writing a stub on him soon.. BUT.. There is already a Vernon White.. so what do I put in the parenthesis after his name? Police chief? --Deenoe 01:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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Brian West (Radio Announcer)
Since he was a former announcer for The Bear I though I could pass this message here as his article is under deletion here--JForget 01:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Bridlewood
Hi everyone! I am the project's newest member to sign up. I've done a little bit of copyediting work on some of the Ottawa road articles, and did a fair bit of fleshing out of Bridlewood. I'd appreciate it if someone could give it a look and let me know if there is anything problematic. Specifically, I think that some of the online sources I've included are rather weak, so I'm hoping someone has some stronger sources to include. In any case, I'm glad to be here and look forward to editing with you in the future!--Xnuala (talk) 01:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Parliament FAR
Parliament of Canada has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Marskell 08:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Doors Open event
Photographers take note - next weekend (2-3 June 2007) is the Doors Open Ottawa event [6]. This would be a good chance to get some inside images of various places. Toronto's Doors Open event this past weekend resulted in new material, such as the photos for the Lower Bay subway station. Dl2000 03:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe we could do a Wiki-meetup in conjunction with it? -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I would definitely be interested in participating!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Any other interest? If someone would like to meetup with me and take some photographs, just drop me a line on my talk page. -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I would definitely be interested in participating!--Xnuala (talk)(Review) 23:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
More 2007 events
A few more events coming up for possible article photo ops:
Westfest 8-10 June 2007
- Musicians
- Kathleen Edwards - already a photo, but stage scenes would be good
- Lily Frost
- Shanneyganock - potentially notable band
- Jason Collett already has photo, but the more the merrier
- The Golden Dogs currently a fair-use pic
- Hunter Valentine - ditto
- Writers
- Hosts/broadcasters
- Alan Neal
- Lucy van Oldenbarneveld
- Adrian Harewood
- Jerri Southcott
Canada Day
Artists appearing on Parliament Hill this year: [7]
- Corb Lund (currently fair use photo)
- Delhi2Dublin
- Eva Avila (currently album cover)
- Leslie Feist (photo exists, but more could help)
- Gregory Charles
- Jay Knutson
- Josée Lajoie
- National Circus School/École nationale de cirque
- Nikki Yanofsky
- Shaye (currently fair use photo)
- Sierra Noble
- Tanya Tagaq Gillis
- Tomi Swick
- Tribal Rhythm
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Belgium in Ottawa
While all users voted for keep, maybe I can still pass this message here to assure the article to be kept see: [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Belgium in Ottawa]--JForget 00:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
OC Transpo Routes
OC Transpo's site mentions that black routes runs all day, generally seven days a week. However, not all routes are running all day long like the 6, 123, 141, 165, 181. Maybe I though that we should add a section with regular off-peak routes that does not run 7 days a week or all day long. That would probably include routes 6, 101, 123, 127, 141, 164, 165, 178 and 186 (and probably a few more. The color would be gray just like the bus stops (although they have stripes on the flag as well)--JForget 16:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Lebreton or LeBreton?
What is the proper spelling of this area? Discussion at Talk:Lebreton Flats#Lebreton or LeBreton. Skeezix1000 17:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Sub-section for listing recently-created articles?
I was wondering if it would be good to add a sub-section in WP:OTT's main page which lists recently created articles related to our region, as I have seen this in other Wikiprojects, including the WP:METEO.--JForget 19:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Bluesfest/Mark Monahan merge
The Mark Monahan article is being proposed for merger into the Ottawa Bluesfest. Does Monahan have any notability beyond Bluesfest? Even so, his bio would need references and perhaps some NPOV cleanup. Dl2000 03:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Knoxdale Public School
I have nominated that article for Afd because it is just a local elementary school, but is there any elements that makes this school notable though?--JForget 02:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Designated heritage properties
In an effort to tally up all the properties in Ottawa which have been designated by the city, I've created List of designated heritage properties in Ottawa and a category. I can't seem to find a full list of said properties, so any help in adding would be appreciated. Padraic 18:02, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- The City is required by the Ontario Heritage Act to maintain an inventory of all of its designated properties. A quick check of the City website suggests that the inventory is, sadly, not online (unlike a number of other municipalities in Ontario). You might be able to review it in person, or maybe they'll email it to you. Immediately prior to amalgamation, the (former) City of Ottawa published a great book (Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee of Ottawa, Ottawa: A Guide to Heritage Structures, Ottawa: LACAC, City of Ottawa, 2000) that contained photos and descriptions of (then) every designated property within the boundaries of the (former) city. Obviously, the book is 7 years out of date, and it does not include other parts of the new city, but it would be helpful if you can get it at a library or something. Good luck. Skeezix1000 17:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just to add: I see here that the local LACAC has Council authority to pursue publishing an updated second edition of Ottawa: A Guide to Heritage Structures, encompassing all of the new city. It's anyone's guess as to when it will be released. Skeezix1000 17:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, I will definitely get that book. As I noted on Talk:List of designated heritage properties in Ottawa, I've emailed the City's general info address. If I don't get a response, I may trying calling the Planning department. Padraic 18:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Best of luck. Rather than making a cold call to planning, try calling heritage itself at:
- Thanks for the info, I will definitely get that book. As I noted on Talk:List of designated heritage properties in Ottawa, I've emailed the City's general info address. If I don't get a response, I may trying calling the Planning department. Padraic 18:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just to add: I see here that the local LACAC has Council authority to pursue publishing an updated second edition of Ottawa: A Guide to Heritage Structures, encompassing all of the new city. It's anyone's guess as to when it will be released. Skeezix1000 17:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Heritage Section
Planning, Transit and the Environment Department
Planning and Infrastructure Approvals Branch
4th Floor, 110 Laurier Avenue West
Ottawa, Ontario
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Fax: 613-580-2756 Skeezix1000 19:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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Ontario elections collaboration on Wikinews
There is urgent need to collaborate on the Ontario election coverage article (also see, Results of 2005 British Columbia, Canada General Election) on Wikinews. Any help is appreciated from editors on Wikipedia. FellowWikipedian 17:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Merge proposals for local candidates
There have been several articles on local candidates that have been created but most of them does not satisfy WP:BIO, so I've suggested to merge Will Murray, Ric Dagenais, John Pacheco, Danny Moran, John Ogilvie (Canada), Gordon Kubanek and Tristan Maack to the list of candidates of the appropriate/respective parties for this recent provincial elections. You can give your say in each of those talk pages.--JForget 23:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Infobox for city council wards
I recently started Template:Infobox Ottawa ward, and while it looks good in Alta Vista Ward, I think it requires some more advanced template syntax to work for the rest of the wards. Anybody with that knowledge please feel free to jump in.--Padraic 15:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
TV Personalities
Should we add a list of TV personalities (including reporters, anchors, hosts, etc) into the Ottawa TV Stations articles such as CHRO, CJOH, CBOT, CHOT and CBOFT - following the trend of numerous US TV Stations (i.e WHAM-TV, WHEC-TV, etc.)--JForget 16:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- I've added the current list of personalities for the five major stations CBOT, CBOFT, CHOT, CHRO and CJOH as I did found list of anchors, reporters, etc for each of them - I've added some other names who are there (appearing) occasionally but not on the list (ie Brent Wallace for CJOH sports, Teri Loretto for CBC weather and also Cindy Demontigny which is not listed as reporter but does occasionally on CBOFT) or they are also for the case of CHOT appearing on the sister station CFGS. I would also like to add past personalities as well but I would need some help even though I remember some of them, like Peter Van Dusen formerly with CBOT, Brian Smith who was with CJOH before being murdered by Jeffrey Arenburg and also Peter Jennings. Are there any sites that does mentionned about past personalities.--JForget 02:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Chiarelli
This looks obviously a bad faith nomination but participate at the debate and notice how I voted.--JForget 02:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Images Requiring Articles
I was surprised to see that one of these was the Mackenzie King Bridge, I've started a short article, but could use some assistance, I'm no expert in Wikipedia.Andy Johnston 15:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Parliament Hill - > Parliament Hill, Ottawa
There is a request to rename Parliament Hill because a place called Parliament Hill, London is named after a girls school Parliament Hill School, and the nominator says the London hill is quite famous. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Fallowfield village
I've added an article on Fallowfield village. I have more information to add whenever I get done with renovations and find the time to add it in. Any comments on the article are welcome and encouraged. HeadSnap (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Arlington_Avenue_(Ottawa)
I proposed this article for deletion. It is about a side-street. Quaint, but not notable! Alaney2k (talk) 16:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)