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[edit] Article tagging

Even though this project page has not even be created yet, many articles have been tagged. I used AWB to go through and tag those articles. This is in addition to some tagging I did on my own (some of these I'm sure are in the category but its possible others are not). There are currently 150 articles tagged. I look forward to this task force getting up and going in the near future.↔NMajdan•talk 21:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New task force page

Nice. Very well done. Using the Turnkey design is a good choice. Great selections for color. Good work!↔NMajdan•talk 01:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It didn't take as long as I thought it would. Okiefromokla•talk 02:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment Table

On another note, since I don't know how to do it, I wanted to see if you would change the assessment table to show the importance of the articles as well, such as the one under Wikiproject Oklahoma. Its useful because editors may want to edit a more important article that may be rated as start class versus a less important article rated as B class, or something like that. I realize all the articles will have their importance rated as it would pertain to Wikiproject Oklahoma, but it would still be useful. Okiefromokla•talk 02:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll add that.↔NMajdan•talk 13:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Done.↔NMajdan•talk 16:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm only seeing Top importance and "none." Maybe this will be automatically updated soon, i'll wait and see. Okiefromokla•talk 18:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regional places listed under Task Force Tulsa

I have made some of the suburbs part of the task force, such as sand springs, jenks, bixby, etc. I think we should define how far we should go with this. In the definition of the task force I put that it includes everything in the Tulsa Metropolitan Area. This provides a definite boundary if we point to the actual Statistical Metropolitan Area and maybe the Bartlesville-Tulsa Combined MSA. So I believe we should work on getting the suburbs listed in the task force, but that brings up another issue. Do we include lakes, state parks, people from the suburbs, schools from the suburbs, etc? I say yes, because if the task force is going to help with Tulsa MSA topics it should include all topics. Any thoughts? Okiefromokla•talk 02:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Lets keep it Tulsa MSA. I'm hesitant to include Bartlesville because its so far away. It is its own statistical area.↔NMajdan•talk 16:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Looking through the categories of tulsa articles by importance I notice there is now a massive list of towns in Oklahoma listed under the task force, most of them are not even anywhere near Tulsa. There are also now a ton of articles listed under the taskforce of people who have no connection to Tulsa and places such as the blue river, with no connection to Tulsa. Many, many articles. What is the deal with this? Okiefromokla•talk 18:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed this too. May be an issue by my modification to the banner. I'm looking now.↔NMajdan•talk 20:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, my fault. I fixed the issue (forgot a set of }}). Now I'm just waiting for the template change to propagate to the categories so I can rerun the bot and get the numbers back down.↔NMajdan•talk 20:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Task Force Icon

Great job on the fixes. I believe we were at one point discussing the possibility of having a picture to accompany the phrase "this article is supported by the tulsa task force" on the talk page banner. Someone suggested the golden driller but I agree it is too dark. However, I suggest we just get a picture up there and we can change it later when a new picture becomes available. Since the GD is too dark, I suggest (Tulsa Skyline Night.jpg) even though it's at night. The other possible picture would be (Tulsa skyline.JPG) but because of its odd elongated shape it may be awkward to put in the banner. It is, however, taken at day. Maybe there could get some more suggestions or new pictures uploaded soon. We can always change it, so what to you guys think about just putting a picture up there asap? Okiefromokla•talk 23:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Since icons are transcluded on the fly, I would agree that adding a picture sooner is better. --Kralizec! (talk) 07:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
The image has to look good when reduced to a small size and I don't think the nighttime image of the Tulsa skyline does this. I really don't know if we have anything that would work. A daytime image of the Golden Driller might work, but it needs to be taken from a little ways away so its not looking up too much. There are some images of the outside of Cain's Ballroom here that might work.↔NMajdan•talk 21:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I honestly have no idea which one of those pictures would work best. Maybe you could experiment on the most likely candidates? One idea could be to use this picture and crop it to cut off the edges. I went ahead and did that and put it here. I hope you don't mind because it is your picture. But that is my only idea. Okiefromokla•talk 01:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: If you croped the other picture of cains at day (the one showing the sign on the top of the building) in a similar way and made it square and centered on the sign it may work as well. Maybe see which one looks better? Your call. Okiefromokla•talk 01:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nominating article for collaboration of month

There are five people who have listed their names for the taskforce so far. On that note, I don't know how much work will actually be done on a collaboration of the month, and I don't know when the rest of you even want to start having collaborations. However, I believe there are several articles that are pretty important in WikiProject Oklahoma and Taskforce Tulsa that I think desperately need to and should be improved greatly upon. After all, that's why this taskforce is here. So if anyone wants to vote or add other candidates to this list, please do so!

If you're worried about participation (rightly so), you could lengthen it to Collaboration of the Quarter.↔NMajdan•talk 00:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. I dont really like the idea of going from 12 collaborations a year to 4. There has to be an inbetween, maybe, 7 collaborations a year? But what would we call it, the Semimonthly Collaboration? For now I suppose we should just wait and see how participation goes before we change it. Okiefromokla•talk 15:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] June or July Candidates

Once again, if you want to do a collaboration of the month, please vote for one of the above nominations or nominate an article yourself. Please vote by signing your name under the article. Okiefromokla•talk 20:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I was going to wait until at least three of us have voted but Its been a couple days so I'll just vote for Tulsa Metro Area and go ahead and say that 3 out of 5 is a majority. Tulsa Metropolitan Area is the new Collaboration of the month/semimonth/quarter! Okiefromokla•talk 15:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List class

I noticed some articles were tagged as List class. I am opposed to classifying articles as lists and I did not set up the project to recognize things tagged as List-class. Why? Because is there is such thing as List-class. Per Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment, there are only 6 classes: FA, A, GA, B, Start, & Stub. A list is still an article. It is in article namespace and should be treated as such. A list can also be FA quality, or B quality or even Start/Stub quality so it should be tagged as such. Anybody have any thoughts on this? If not, I'm going to re-rate the lists so they get put in the appropriate category.↔NMajdan•talk 20:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I probably rated a few of those articles as lists. I have no problem with them being changed. Okiefromokla•talk 21:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Belvedere

I was thinking that the buried car might make a good separate article, now that it has been uncovered. Mention might also be made of the Plymouth Prowler buried in 1998 at Centennial Park (mentioned in todays Tulsa World). There is a start at Plymouth Belvedere. Dsmdgold 02:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it could be an article entitled Tulsarama, which was the actual celebration that included the belvedere being drawn up. Such an article may also have to include the other celebrations around it and the unveiling at the convention center, etc. Otherwise, what would the article be called, Burried Belvedere? We could at least make some redirect pages since most people dont really know what "tulsarama" is. Any ideas for what to call the article?
What to name the article was my problem, if I could figure that out I would have started the it. I was tempted by "buried car", but Buried Belvedere might work. Tulsarama has the advantage of being the name of the event where the car was buried (I think, the World had an article about the beauty pagent they did at Tulsarama in 57 a few days ago) Did anyone go down to the car show and get a picture of the rust that could be released under a free licence? Dsmdgold 21:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Maybe we need some more opinions on what to call the article. As for the picture, we don't need a pic of the actual car they pulled out of the ground. Just find a picture of rust. Then a car. And the caption could read "The buried belvedere was a fusion of rust and car." Ok, lets just find a picture of the actual car, I think what I just suggested is probably a better fit for unencyclopedia.Okiefromokla•talk 04:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
How about the buried car? Anyways, I heard that they were going to bury another car in November in the same place. I think that we may have enough information to create the article. As for sources, we can use newspapers and buriedcar.com. --Μ79_Šp€çíá∫횆tell me about it

[edit] Image Request

I will be downtown today. I'll try to take a picture with my digital camera of the sister cities.--Μ79_Šp€çíá∫횆tell me about it

[edit] Shortening Tulsa, Oklahoma

Could someone please help me looking over the Tulsa article closely? We need to discuss some specific ideas on what to remove to make this article shorter. My goal is to get this article down to 85KB or below, but I could live with 87kb or so. But the key is to do it without detracting from its quality as a featured article. Thanks for your help. Okiefromokla•talk 18:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)