Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nintendo/Archive 2

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Page move

Someone moved the Luigi page to Luigi (Mario). Was this discussed beforehand?? -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, but I think the consensus at Talk:King Bowser may apply to other Mario characters as well.--TBCTaLk?!? 09:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the person didn't even bother to change any links. Even on the disambiguation page that everything redirects to. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ignore what I previously said; seeing that there was no prior discussion on moving the Luigi page specifically, you should ask an admin to revert it. You could also mention it on WP:CVG as well.--TBCΦtalk? 15:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:CVG don't really care about this. I'm at a loss... -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 14:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Pokemon lists

I've nominated most of the Pokemon lists for deletion here.--TBCTaLk?!? 09:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

For clarification, the result of the deletion nomination was "Somewhat Speedy Keep". Useight 16:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Archived

I've archived the talk page.--TBCΦtalk? 15:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

neshq.com

I am currently removing neshq.com external links when without a context (in example, when they are linked to the home page). The site has an Alexa ranking of nearly 4m, I wonder if all of them should be deleted. What do people think? -- ReyBrujo 03:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, this is AndrewM, the founder of NESHQ.com. I don't know who's putting contextless links to my site but everyone I've put goes in the format GAMELINK - Description NESHQ.COM_LINK. If there's a way you'd prefer me to post these links please e-mail me (andrewm@neshq.com), but I put them up as my games pages are some of the most comprehensive on the web. Thanks!

A link to an Open Directory Project page instead would be a much better option.--TBCΦtalk? 03:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Anyone wanna help me with the list of Nintendo patents?

20 of them are done, and 491 need to get done. A lot of help would be appreciated. —Captain538[talk] 14:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I am pretty concerned about having an article with 500 external links. I suggest not doing individual linking, just linking the search result link as reference. -- ReyBrujo 18:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

So, take away the links and just do the rest as un-linked? That can be done. In fact, that would be much, much easier. —Captain538[talk] 01:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, with the patent number it should be enough to find the patent. -- ReyBrujo 01:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I had added ~100 patents to the list, but the article came up in the Articles for Deletion debate, and was removed. At least this means I can stop the tedious work I was doing on the page. Useight 05:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that happens. If you want the text of the article before being deleted, tell me and I will copy it to your page (say, because you have a copy of the last revision for your own research). -- ReyBrujo 05:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

No thanks, I could just look up the patents (which I won't because I really don't care) at the patent office's database. Useight 16:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario 64

Super Mario 64 is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 15:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

This project's Barnstar/award needs a lot of work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Nintendo/Award

It's not even in Barnstar format. I say that we have a normal award (a regular Starman image), and a Barnstar (perhaps an image of a Barnstar pixelated and pallette-defined so it looks 8-bit). —Captain538[talk] 01:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's something that I just threw together in about 30 seconds, I know that it needs work. What do you think it should really look like?

—Captain538[talk] 01:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I like Captain538 verison. The current verison is a VGC ripoff. :P Starmanclock - The Clock Crew Member Starmenclock 18:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I just sent it in to be approved as a real Barnstar. —Captain538[talk] 03:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it should have eyes on it. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A month later, how does this look:

It's pretty crude and needs more work, but at least it's a start. —The Great Llama^moo? 19:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC) —The Great Llama^moo? 19:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Ummmm... How about black oval eyes with white dots for highlights? -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

How about we make it red with "Wikitendo" inscribed on it? FullMetal Falcon 21:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

They both need more work, but I started to make both those suggestions (Personally, I prefer the first one).I haven't put the "white highlight" in the second one yet.

BarnStarman award anyone? Jecowa 06:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I like the left-hand one the best - it just seems cleaner. - NP Chilla 21:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the left BarnStarman is a winner FullMetal Falcon 22:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems like a great idea and all, but it would not stick out like such a sore thumb if it was in the original Barnstar format. you know, with the hole in the middle and the detail and all.

That's not to say it can't be coloured a luminous gold colour, with dark oval eyes and possibly an aura if need be, but it should conform to the style of the current barnstars in existance. maybe instead of an aura or eyes, a looping .midi of the starman theme can be added ;)

Gene S. Poole 00:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Gene S. Poole so I have made a hybrid of the standard barnstar and the starman. Please consider it for official use. Jmeriot 15:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
• User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
• User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
• User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Just one question: Under where it says stuff like "Collaberations" and "Peer review," should we only fill in "yes," or should we also fill in all others with "no"? —Captain538[talk] 22:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You should fill in the link to the appropriate page or section. If there is content, the box will show a "yes" and link directly to the appropriate page or section. Sorry about any confusion earlier, by the way. I forgot for a while that all the "draft" pages linked to the existing pages. The old pages have now been replaced and most things should work fine. My apologies again for any confusion. B2T2 00:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Work

Hello, I'm Dfrg.msc, and I want to make some constructive edits to Wikipedia. It's not that I am unable to, I would just like some guidance. So, if you have any specific tasks related to this topic, please inform me on my talk page, be specific and include links and I'll help out as soon as I can. Thanks, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 07:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

We need to have an article focus system.

I think we should have an article focus system. We could use approval voting to make a list of articles that need help. One at a time, we would list an article with what is needed to make it at least a GA, and keep it as that until it reaches GA status, then take the next article on the list.--Ac1983fan^{(yell at me)} 17:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Vote

Vote support or oppose with an optional explanation.

• Support as nominator.--Ac1983fan^{(yell at me)} 17:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. This Project needs a lot more organization (some coordinators, selected articles, etc.) and this is just one of the steps. —Captain538[talk] 16:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support Assuming things aren't dead in this project. I have the perfect article too to start things off. FullMetal Falcon 23:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support, sounds like a great idea.--TBCΦtalk? 00:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support, agree with TBC. bibliomaniac15 Review? 06:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support Good idea, there aren't that many Nintendo-related articles that reach good, and fewer that reach featured. This should definitely help. —The Great Llama^moo? 19:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Apparently, my support was a month late. D'oh. —The Great Llama^moo? 19:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean an assessment scale? What most projects do, is that they categorize articles by Top importance, High, mid or low. And I think we should do that with this project as well. The top articles should be the systems, the pages for the franchises, Shigeru Miyamoto, the pages for the most famous characters (Mario, Link, etc).

• Support--StormCommander 00:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Included Characters

In the introductory paragraph the sentence, "However, this does exclude Super Mario RPG related articles which, though owned by Square Enix, features Nintendo related characters." seems a bit odd. The word exclude seems to clash with the sentences around it. Is it saying that RPG aticles aren't included or they are. Either way can I suggest a slightly clearer phrasing which dosen't clash so much with the words around it?BigHairRef | Talk 01:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Stablepedia

Beginning cross-post.

See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 00:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

End cross-post. Please do not comment more in this section.

nintendo music project

I am working on a Mario-based nintendo music project outside of Wikipedia. Please feel free to visit and contribute your info... or offer advice. We are new to this realm of collaboration, so please bear with us while we learn the ropes.

bert jerred's wiki

Tagging the Nintendo articles

It would be a lot of work, but the Talk pages of many Nintendo related articles are not tagged as being a part of Project Nintendo. The articles would be a lot easier to keep track of and it would be easier to keep track of which articles are good, featured, etc. So is this something that needs to be done? -- Scorpion0422 18:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

This does seem rather important, though there are a very high amount of talk pages without this tag. I'll start doing so. —The Great Llama^moo? 21:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Article Importance

For those who are not familiar, most projects tag their corresponding articles with either Top, High, mid or Low priority. So, if we're going to tag a lot of articles, which ones should which?

• TOP - The systems, Nintendo, Shigeru Miyamoto, Mario, Link, Luigi and other franchise characters, all the franchises
• HIGH - All first party games, major characters
• MID - Second and third party games, other characters
• LOW - Items, low characters, games made for other systems but were released on Nintendo

UPDATE - I changed the template so now it will include Assessment, etc should people wish to add them.

Opinions? -- Scorpion0422 22:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the structure of WikiProjects and page importance tags, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games is already tagging articles such as Mario with these tags. Do we really need to tag them too? Jecowa 05:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Mario's up for Good Article Review

Mario's up for WP:GA/R - concern seems to be about the citations - criteria 2a and 2d have been named specifically. - Malkinann 23:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Nintendo

Hi. I'm a wikipedian from fr: and yesterday, I wrote a message on Portal talk:Nintendo#Updates needed!! about the Nintendo portal being abandoned. Maybe some of the active editors here could shake it up :) jd 10:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Mario Party articles in need of formatting

Almost all the games of Mario Party series needs a table format or some kind of format for the mini-games. Long lists of games aren't helping the articles much. RobJ1981 19:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we schould include a list of all the mini-games (regardless if they are in a table or not), as it would make the article a lot more crufty...--TBCΦtalk? 03:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Llama Man and myself (well, okay, mostly Llama Man) have been working to clear this up on the Mario Party articles. currently we're trying to remove all lists and replace where warranted with a brief paragraphical description; it's not gamefaqs, after all. there's been some opposition but on the whole they're looking a whole lot better.

Gene S. Poole 06:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Celice

This article needs help. Any suggestions? OBEY STARMAN 19:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

The article defaintly needs more citations and references.--TBCΦtalk? 15:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Charizard importance

Four projects (PCP, CVG, Japan, and Nintendo) have rated Charizard. The first three label it mid-importance, while the fourth labels it low-importance. Shouldn't it be mid-importance? Japan has a bigger scope than this project...so mid-importance should be the importance level! «TTV»(talk|contribs|email) 23:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)/WP:PCP

Mario Party 7

Would someone participate in this discussion? I've been waiting for ~1 week, and it seems unlikely It'll ever get a reply. I removed some parts before, but someone got really POed and someone else added it back, so I probably shouldn't do it again. –Llama man^{sign here} 19:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

ping!

Gene S. Poole 23:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

There's also a discussion at Talk:Mario Party 7#Consensus (I wasn't the original poster, but Mario Party talk pages probably don't get many hits). –Llama man^{sign here} 20:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you want us to talk about? --FrogTape 03:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Animal Crossing (series) article needs a lot of work

Animal Crossing (series) was made a couple months ago and it has needed a lot of work since. The articles for each Animal Crossing game are far better. Please help out with the Animal Crossing (series) page because it should be a top priority. Thanks. --StormCommander 20:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll help out as soon as possible. The article defaintly needs to be cleaned up and expanded.--TBCΦtalk? 21:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

GAC

Will anyone do a GAC of Mario at WP:GAC#Games? –Llama man^{sign here} 01:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

List of Virtual Console titles (Europe)

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, so please tell me were to ask if this is inapropriate. I would like to make the List of Virtual Console titles (Europe) page part of the Nintendo project. What do I need to do? Mausy5043 07:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC) Please respond here. Mausy5043 16:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Meetup

You guys do know that this page is now sort of requested for discussing the next meetup. Good luck with just bailing out. Might want to start "Meeting Up" now.--Furon 23:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga content dispute

Would someone please participate in the discussion? –Llama man 23:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, what are we supposed to talk about? I don't know anything about the game --FrogTape 03:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Everybody Votes

The creator of this article keeps insisting that it deserves an article, even though it's only 1 small paragraph and is already covered in its entirety at Wii Channels. I redirected the page, but he keeps acting like i'm deleting it and won't listen to reason (I even explained that redirecting is not deleting, and that the page offers nothing different than the Wii Channels page). He doesn't seem to want to discuss it on his talk page or at the Wii Channels talk page (where I told him to discuss it). If anybody could help (advice on how to deal with him, some of you maybe talking to him). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs) 03:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Isn't AfD a better place to discuss this?--TBCΦtalk? 21:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, it seems you've already nominated it for deletion.--TBCΦtalk? 21:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Good Article Collaboration of the week

F-Zero GX is the current GACo until 2007-03-04. Let's try and get this to FA!-FMF|contact 22:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

What's the appeal with Smash Bros?

I'm going to first off declare my intent to play the newbie card of not knowing where I should post this. But I wanted to know what makes the Smash Bros series so popular? I've played it for N64 about three time and liked it, but haven't had much to do with Nintendo til I get my Wii for x-mas =D Love it, btw. The new Smash Bros. is coming out this year and I'd appreciate it if someone wrote a section in that article detailing the exact appeal of the game. People like me would appreciate the little extra reading! Fadedroots 23:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that the appeal of Super Smash Bros. is worthy of an encyclopedia. It's too subjective. I would suggest you search on Google for reviews or blogs or something of that nature. Something like, "It's a fun game when you have some friends over" should not be in Wikipedia. Useight 18:55, 28 March 2007

Requesting Assessment

Hello, a number of us have completely revamped and updated the List of Wii games. It didn't have a WikiProject Nintendo tag before, but it does now. I'd like for someone to rate the article from WikiProject Nintendo (I've requested a re-rating from the CVG Portal), if possible. I'm not sure if the members here still assess Nintendo articles or not, but if so your help (and comments for improvement) will be most helpful. Thanks. -Digiwrld1 13:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Torchic FAR

Torchic has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Red Link cleanup effort

I have made it my personal task to eradicate all red links found game lists for Nintendo consoles. I will not be adding articles haphazardly with little to no information in them just to "get them up there". Some of my recent additions include Deathbots, and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (video game) both for the NES. I will be starting with the NES and working my way upward with consoles and handhelds. Anyone who is interested in joining my effort is welcome to do so, should they perform under the same standards that I am. If you plan on just creating "placeholder" articles for red links, please don't. This just makes them more difficult for me to find (because now they are stubs rather than red links). Jmeriot 18:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you be willing to work backwards, starting with the Wii and going back to the NES? I suggest it because the Wii is a more current topic and as such more people will be using it for reference. There are a tremendous amount of redlinks/stubs there and I think it would be great if you and others could help put up article for these games.

I don't think I'll be able to put in as much effort as you on this task (I'll contribute here and there), but to start I can go through and give you a list of articles that need to be created from the List of Wii games. -Digiwrld1 05:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes and no. While I agree that Wii is a more current topic, anyone who is willing to help out certainly can use that as a starting point. I would prefer to focus on the NES list first for a few reasons. I grew up on the NES and therefor I have a sort of bond with it, also I'm a bit of a retro-gamer. While I have no objections to me working on the Wii list simultaniously, (I just added an article for Treasure Island Z today), I'd also prefer to focus on the NES list because the information is static. Meaning - the Wii games that are red links or stubs are mostly that of yet to be released titles or Japanese exclusives which would have limited information that is subject to change. The NES games however, have all been released, and therefor there is no reason an article isn't released for everyone (the same stands true for the SNES, GB, etc. as well). Again, I'd like to create full articles, not quick filler stubs, when possible.

On a side note, my two newest additions are All-Pro Basketball, and Arkista's Ring. I hope you take the time to check them out (and possibly add something!)

Jmeriot 20:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Game Boy micro

i need your help, the Game Boy micro is under Game Boy Micro. this is wrong as the offical name for the device is micro wqith a lower case. thank you for your time. HHS.student

This still hasn't been taken care of. Useight 16:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like it has been discussed to death at Talk:Game Boy Micro, with numerous move proposals and everything. Anomie 17:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

According to the discussion there, it sounds like the consensus was to move it to "micro", but nobody did. Useight 19:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Which discussion? This one is 2 to 1 for Micro, this is 3 to 0 for Micro, and this is again 2 to 1. Feel free to post yet another move request, I suppose. Anomie 19:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The correct article name is Game Boy Micro. Although it may be trademarked "micro", our own naming policies and guidelines (especifically, Wikipedia:Naming conventions, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capitalization) states we must use proper case even if the trademark owner wants another type of capitalization (in example, XBOX, but we write Xbox instead). Hope that clarifies the matter. -- ReyBrujo 02:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Then why is there an article called iPhone rather than Iphone? Should that one be changed? Useight 16:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I just checked it out at Wikipedia:Naming conventions and it does mention that specifically, well, actually it mentions iPod and eBay, but same thing. Makes sense now. Thanks. Useight 16:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Mario

I'd like to request a Wikiproject Mario Series, because of the popularity of the games and how famous they are. I couldn't beleive there already wasn't one, but I think many gamers would be willing to join this project. Thanks. Wikipedian64 15:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Joining

Hi i would like to join this wikiProject. Where do i sign up? Thanks - Cocopopz2005 03:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo/Members. — Malcolm^{Use the schwartz!} 01:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

A comment about Wii Points on several Nintendo articles

I made a comment here: Talk:List of Virtual Console games (North America)#Wii Points doesn.27t need to be listed. But I thought I would get some extra input here. Basically to sum it up (if you didn't read my post on that talk page): how much Wii Points the Virtual Console games cost, doesn't needed to be listed. They are downloads, but look at just about any video game article: no prices are listed. I would've removed it, but I'm sure people would've reverted it. This same thing applies to the Wii Points and Virtual Console article, and the other country lists for VC games as well. Maybe someone can think of a reason to keep it on: but I highly doubt listing prices is encyclopedic. It's helpful, but this is an encyclopedia: not a guide to prices. I can understand keeping the prices of the Wii points cards in general: but not game prices. If they are kept, then people might as welll list on every article the game cost $50 or whatever. A download shouldn't make it an exception to the rule, period. In other examples: movie articles don't have prices, nor do CD articles. In comparision to other actual downloads: I haven't checked that, but I'm sure a mass listing of prices doesn't exist on the articles. RobJ1981 19:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Merge Proposal

Following the suggestions of various Wikipedians, I've created a Comparison of Wii Games to complement the current List of Wii games. It allows for additional details to be listed that could not have been fit into the current list, such as Controllers used, Number of Players, and any features.

I believe that one comprehensive list is superior to 3 separate lists for both readers wanting to know more about Wii games as well as editors wanting to contribute and collaborate. As such I am proposing that the List of Wii Wi-Fi Connection games, the List of widescreen Wii games, and the List of Wii games using Miis be merged into the Comparison of Wii Games.

I would really appreciate it if you could leave your comments and votes at the Comparison of Wii Games Talk PageDigiwrld1 22:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Wii Games Peer Review

The List of Wii games is getting ready for Featured status and is currently undergoing a Peer Review. Please take a moment to look over the article and add your suggestions/comments for improvement here. It would be really helpful and prepare the article for FL candidacy.

(Also, please take a moment to add your comments to the Merge Proposal seen above.) Thanks! Digiwrld1 22:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Need Help on the SMW article

I need help on the gameplay section of the Super Mario World (SMW) article. This section in the SMW article, as the "unreferenced-section" ta describes, need to cite it's references and/or sources. See WP:CITE. This article needs a lot of references and/or sources Can anyone please help me out? I also incorporate parts of the trivia sections into the articles, rather than "zapping the lot." Sjones23 15:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Here is a point from the trivia section of SMW removed:

• The four colors of the Yoshi dinosaurs match those of the main buttons of the Super Famicom and PAL SNES controller. Also, in the special road, the familiar SFC / PAL SNES logo is shown.

Happy Easter Sjones23 15:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Invite of a sister project

You may of noticed that a playstation project has started up. The project means no harm and would like to be a sibling project, since Nintendo and Sony are great console producers. If any one has any comment on this please type it on this page. We are also always welcoming new members and content. Playstationdude 03:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, if anyone is interested in adding a Xbox project and would also like to be a sibling, please comment. Playstationdude 03:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo characters in art request

You guys need a description of the article you have requested. I want to help, but I don't know what you want me to do! you just put, Nintendo Characters in Art. That could mean a few things... FrogTape 02:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea either. I assume it means paintings, posters, sketches, etc of Mario, Link, etc. Sounds very unusual and not real encyclopedic. Useight 17:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Should we add this picture to the Wario Article?

Click here to see the picture. Yeah, we already have a picture of Wario from SSBB in the Wario Article but do you think we should add this one too?--YOSHIANDLINK1 22:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for Mario

I've madea proposal for a major change to the Mario article here. — Malcolm^{Use the schwartz!} 01:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo Wars

This project is at WP:MFD and I thought you guys would be the people to house it with. Please join the discussion and take it under your wing if you think it's viable. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Assessment department?

Unlike CVG, I don't see this WikiProject has an assessment department, or am I wrong? We need List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars assessed and categorized. Citations and other edits wouldn't hurt either! ☺ User:TTN now consideres the article for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Would you please take a look? Thanks! Taric25 06:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and cast your vote. Thanks! Taric25 06:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Virtual Console game list sort conflicts

There is currently debate at Talk:List of Virtual Console games (North America)#Alphabatize about how to sort the sortable list of games. On one hand, there is a preference to list all of the released games together in one table. On the the other hand, some people, intmidated by the appearance of one large table, insist on separating the list into five tables, each grouping the games by their original systems, which ruins the potential to sort the games as a whole. I am asking for help in resolving the issue. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Expantion request

I just added List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars to our to do list, since it needs expansion. Specifically, I need help with the creatures and races section, but any help at all would be great! Thanks in advance! Taric25 16:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Leader Needed?

It doesn't seem like too much is being organized for WPN, and if no one is currently running the show, I'd love to step up to help out all of Wiki's Nintendo pages. So, if no one replies to this saying that thety are the leader within a couple days, I'll be organizing some stuf on the Project Page. Miles Blues 17:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProjects don't have leaders, just contribute and discuss if necessary. As we say, {{sofixit}} -- ReyBrujo 18:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

In that case, anyone interested in helping should be nominating and helping out with the Collaboration of the Week, which I'll start up again.

For anyone involved with Megaman pages, especially Zero and ZX:

We are currently having a dispute on the Ciel (Mega Man Zero) page that has reached no compromise, and no resolution. Its bordering on 3RR, if it's not already there. Any help would be appreciated. If I remember correctly, Zero, Man in Black, and What is Love? all seemed to be active on MegaMan articles.

The discussion is on the talk page, the revert war is on the history page. Please read them at your leisure, and then come to your own view on the matter. Thank you for your time.KrytenKoro 18:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

SNES peer review

I've been working on Super Nintendo Entertainment System with the goal of eventually getting it up to FA status. Since I've run out of ideas to improve the article, I submitted it for peer review last weekend, and have yet to receive any response. Please take a look and give some feedback. Thanks. Anomie 20:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I've also done a little work on the article, but I can't really think of anything major at this time. Useight 16:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Removing WP:Nintendo templates

An editor recently removed the WikiProject Nintendo template from Talk:3-D WorldRunner, stating that the game's only connection to Nintendo (having been released on a Nintendo system) is not enough to warrant the template. However, an incredibly large amount of similar articles are tagged with the Nintendo template without anyone removing it. This includes Good and Featured Articles such as several Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger. Should the Nintendo templates be removed from them? Kariteh 08:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

IMO, at least NES and SNES-era games should be in this project since Nintendo insisted on approving every single game before allowing it to be made. I do not know whether this policy continued for the N64 and on. Anomie 12:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm progressively removing the templates, so that statement is untrue. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Super Nintendo Entertainment System FAC

I've submitted Super Nintendo Entertainment System as a Featured article candidate. Please talk a look at the article and give your input. Is it worthy of being the third video game console FA, joining Nintendo Entertainment System and Wii? Anomie 00:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Super Nintendo Entertainment System to be August 2's Featured Article

Unexpected but not unwelcome. If anyone happens to be free this Thursday, please join the anti-vandal patrol. Anomie 02:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey gang, congratz on making this a featured article! I've been away from Wikipedia and the Gaming Wikiprojects for awhile but have recently returned and am glad to see the enormous amount of outstanding work that has been completed in this genre since I left. Again, way to go! --Naha|^(talk) 14:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Task force

There has been discussion at here for making a Fire Emblem Task force. I don't understand what a task force is, but is it a good idea? Crowstar^{Vaseline-on-the-lens-Jitsu!fwends!} 22:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Link (The Legend of Zelda) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --carelesshx _talk 21:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

New logo.

I have to admit something.

From day one I have had a deep, dark hatred for that crude little mushroom this project has been using. It has bothered me for ages, so I finally got around to making a mushroom of my own to replace him. I hope there isn't much objection to this motion, though there may be the issue of which coloring to use.--SeizureDog 05:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The classic looks fine. Kariteh 08:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

I also like those better than the old crude mushroom!

I decided to SVGize your PNGs, SeizureDog, as shown to the right. As you can see, I followed your design almost exactly. What do you think? Anomie 23:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Project page change

I am considering creating an Achievements section for FARs, FAs, FACs, GACs and GAs, like Wikipedia:WikiProject Final Fantasy#Achievements. I am also considering a removal of all Former FAs and Former GAs. Any comments or objections? Greg Jones II 17:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. Go for it.--SeizureDog 17:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I removed all former FAs and former GAs and replaced them with Good article candidates and Featured article candidates. Greg Jones II 17:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

And I have changed the Article examples to Achievements. Greg Jones II 18:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion via WP:PROD

• Akaneia August 11
• Elibe August 11
• Jugdral August 11
• Tellius August 11

Merger of new versions of Pokémon Red and Blue

I have proposed that the expanded versions of Pokémon Red and Blue (Pokémon Yellow and Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen) be merged into the main article. Please discuss on the talk page. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 06:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject - Nintendo - Super Mario Series?

Out of all things video games you don't have a WikiProject on tbe Super Mario series? The very character is the longest lasting video game character (next to Donkey Kong of course) for 26 years! Surely since you have the Ledgend of Zelda (Link) series WikiProject I would think you would have the Mario series WikiProject too. I'm sure that there are plenty of Mario fans and willing contributors who are ready to start on a project of this subject. Think of it, you could have the games, the characters, development, the creators, etc. because as we all know the Mushroom Kingdom and Mario industry is a HUGE one. So why can't we put it as one of our priorities and upgrade the quality of all the articles in this area to FA standard and get our moustached friend featured? I think it's worth it. Mario is, after all, one of the driving forces behind Nintendo and would to the world of good to the Nintendo Project as well as Video Game Project too. What do you say? If you all accept, could someone put it on the To Do list? Thanks in advance. I've also posted this under the WikiProject Video Games discussion page.

I've also noticed that the Mario page hasn't even made it to Wikipedia Version 0.5 level. We must do something about this so Mario gets his spot on the Final Wikipedia v1.0!

Please excuse my lack of Wiki code as I don't know it very well.

Also, I would like to propose to clean up the discussion page here. Here is my plan.

Stage 1: Delete all topics that have not been answered in 2007 (delete all topics that are posted in 2006 and eariler)

Stage 2: Delete all topics that have not been answered in 6 months.

Stage 3: Delete all topics that have not been answered in 4 months.

Not only will this clear up a lot of this discussion page, but it would also give attention to the more important subjects that have any interest. I will need people to approve of this before I follow through so please leave your own post. After your post, please type < hr > without the spaces. This helps set your post out from the others so you can clearly tell who posted what. Also, please don't delete these lines. Thanks for reading.

Mush Man 10:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.17.212 (talk • contribs)

Don't we already archive talk pages? (Wouldn't that be enough?) Oh, and WP:MOS discourages the Horizontal Rule. =David^(talk)_(contribs) 13:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mush Man, welcome to wikipedia. Please see the page Help:Archiving a talk page which covers the approach to use for tidying up talk pages.

Further, as David says, the rest of wikipedia uses the intenting approach, so it's preferred to keep to the standard.

Finally use ~~~~ to sign your name. --Oscarthecat 14:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Mush Man, you're currently editing from an IP address (as I've just shown by adding the {{unsigned}} tag). You should consider logging in (Or, if you haven't created an account, create one).

As for your other concerns, if you feel that a Mario Wikiproject (separate from the Wikiproject Nintendo) is necessary, take a stroll on over to this page to find out how to make one. Thanks for your interest!=David^(talk)_(contribs) 15:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest a task force within the scope of this project. Please register so that you could be a part of the project you are proposing. Please do not use HR's as they are distracting. Please do not start the same conversation in two places, instead redirect editors from one place to the topic on the other (as this conversation is more about this project than WP:VG, I will direct editors here). Please do not add (active topic) to section headings, as there is no time limit to a discussion, save for when it's archived (usually do to size, and by normal archiving procedure). But again, a task force would be preferable, due to the overlap with this project, and there are too many stagnant WPs as it is. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 17:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Working on Wario

I am currently trying to address some of the issues standing in the way of this article being lifted back to FA-status (in order to achieve the bounty of course, and because I love Wario :P). Anyone is of course welcome to help out, and if you have any questions, we can try to work it out together on the talk page. --Lhademmor 21:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

User:TJ Spyke

His userpage says that he is a member of this project, so I figured that I should comment here. This user has just been unblocked following a series of discussions which ended at WP:CSN. The terms of his unblock state that he is now on an indefinite edit parole. The terms of the parole state that he is allowed to edit any articles he chooses, but he is only allowed to revert another user one time. So, if he violates his 1RR, then you should report him to WP:AN or WP:ANI stating that he was on a revert parole. Also, he is not allowed to have an alternate account for any reason. If you suspect that he is using sockpuppets, then please report him to WP:SSP or WP:RfCU. Also, you may contact me or User:Moe Epsilon for any details in this matter, or if you feel uncomfortable filing any of the reports should you notice a violation. Peace, The Hybrid 21:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

How Do I join this project?

Do i just put my name in the member's list? C. Pineda 05:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's about it. Welcome! =David^(talk)_(contribs) 06:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

List of Wii Wi-Fi Connection games

Shouldn't you guys be also working on the List of Wii Wi-Fi Connection games aswell as the DS one because it seriously needs updating. --Maxfm 12:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Clarify what qualifies for inclusion in WikiProject Nintendo

This article is not really clear on what belongs in WikiProject Nintendo. It says "this WikiProject focuses only on Nintendo owned characters, games, and systems." Does this mean game published by Nintendo or developed by Nintendo? Many games (notably the Mario sports series) are published but not developed by Nintendo. For example, Mario Superstar Baseball is developed by Namco and Mario Hoops 3-on-3 by Square Enix. The sentence "However, this does exclude Super Mario RPG related articles which, though owned by Square Enix, features Nintendo related characters." leads me to believe that Super Mario RPG and related pages should be included, but many people would think bot because it is not developed by Nintendo but rather Square Enix. If I am assumming correctly, would it not be easier to say that only Nintendo published games should included?

Also, the desciption limits included articles to "characters, games, and systems". Does this mean the Nintendo page should not be included? What about disambiguation pages such as Mario and Luigi or lists such as List of Kirby games?

We need a better method of organizing our pages. Category:WikiProject Nintendo articles does a decent job of sorting articles by importance and quality, but is not easy to sort through if one just wants a "raw list". Maybe articles could also be organized by "characters, games, and systems"? I am considering altering Template:Infobox VG to atomatically include any Nintendo published games (if this is what we decide on) in a new Category:Nintendo game articles and then making a page in WikiProject Nintendo to list these using the Category Tree tool. That would be a start at least by including all "game" articles.

Just wanted to put that out there before making any drastic changes. --bse3 01:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to say (as if I haven't blabed enough) that the current Category:WikiProject Nintendo articles only lists the article's talk pages, not the actual project pages. Is there a way to change the coding of Template:NESproj to add the project pages rather than the talk pages to the category, even though the template is placed on the talk pages? I know it uses the {{PAGENAME}} magic word and I have never heard of a magic word that refers to the project page of the current talk page. {{SUBJECTPAGENAME}} does not seem to work. --bse3 02:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario RPG was co-developed by Square, not entirely developed by them alone. In any case, there simply is no consensus on what qualifies for inclusion in the project, since this is so inactive. I tried to ask the question a while ago (#Removing WP:Nintendo templates) but it didn't get very far. Kariteh 09:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Page redesign

I am considering a page redesign of this WikiProject. Recently, Wikiproject Simpsons and now Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter have been redesigned to be more accessible and navigation friendly. I also think it would be a great improvement to go over to that kind of format. Any comments or objections? Greg Jones II 19:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I am all for it! I especially like how Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter has a article index. That would really help this WikiProject. I don't really understand how decisions get made around here (is there a vote or someone in charge?) but I think it would help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bse3 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Anyone else? (also, Bse3, can you sign your comments using four tildes? That will automatically produce the signature and the date. Thanks.) Greg Jones II 21:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Bse3, thanks for the comment you posted on my talk page on my talk page a moment ago. I am interested. Is anyone else interested? Thanks. Greg Jones II 19:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

It will definitely make the page more navigable. If you want to you can use the open space under "test" in my sandbox for this redesign. « FMF » 20:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that is a great idea. Maybe we could get a few proposals and compare them for the best option. -Zomic13 22:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is a start. It definitely needs some work and will need some links altered for the real page. I am not sure about the color scheme; I tried to follow {{User WP Nintendo}}. I removed some stuff I thought was unnecessary and added some other stuff, but I still think it needs to be reworded in some parts. At least I got the copy and paste/formatting grunt work done. –bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 05:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

It's about time for a redesign! The proposed redesign looks GREAT! I appreciate all the work that has gone in to make it looks and work as best as it can! Thanks! LN3000 23:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree - it looks cleaner and easier to navigate. Let's take the plunge! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NP Chilla (talk • contribs) 23:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it is a lot more organized than the layout at the moment, good work. But is there any need for this "Writing Articles" section? It seems like little more than a rehash of what's on other pages already. I would say the red headings are a bit dark, also, they don't really go well with the left side of the page. Haipa Doragon (talk) 23:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I like the rough draft of the proposed page! I think that this could use some makeover, so I'm for any design that is very appealing to everybody! --ClonedPickle 17:10, 29 October 2007 (PST)

Thanks for the input. I completely agree with what Haipa Doragon has to say about the "Writing Articles" section, so I trashed it. On the right panel I shrunk everything down by putting little scroll boxes for the larger sections. These will need to be sized to balance out both panels when it's nearer to completion. It seems to work pretty good, but for some reason the right side of the scroll bar is cut off and it looks kind of funny. If anyone knows how to fix this it would be greatly appreciated. I also think the "About" section needs to be rewritten. It doesn't seem to flow very well and should include a clearer definition of what articles qualify for this project. I personally think that "game" articles qualify if they are produced by Nintendo. Any color scheme suggestions would be great. See discussion here. –bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 00:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The redesign looks great, however, I agree that the red headers seem a little to dark. And the scroll bars are missing their right half, which looks weird. Other than that, the new look is awesome. Useight 03:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for it—the redesign makes it look more accessible and appealing. Well done. Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 07:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the new page is quite an improvement. Im all for it. Navarr 17:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

All that can be tweaked later. This new design is much more organized. KyuuA4 22:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, KyuuA4. I changed a few things and think it's about ready to go. There is still the wonky scroll bar thing and my uninspired choice of colors, but that can be fixed later. Can I put it up on the real page now? –bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 22:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Your redesign is looking good. I do think the members scroll box is a little ugly though. I think the redirect to the members list on the old style page worked better. Also, the new page doesn't appear to have instructions for joining Category:WikiProject_Nintendo_members. Actually, I've never put my name on the members list page, I'm only listed in the category. Hmmm. The list and the category seem redundant, is one of them more official/supported than the other? Because honestly we should only need one of them.

Looking further, there are actually quite a few scroll boxes. They're okay, but I'd rather they go to subpages then scrolling around on the main page like that. Especially in some of the cases where there are lists under subheadings. Lists under subheadings in a scroll box in a sidebar is not my cup of tea. I can't really rationalize what I don't like about it, it just doesn't feel quite right to me. Still, the new look is, overall, an improvement; it just needs some tweaking. Infernal Inferno 23:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

New Template:NESproj design

Tell me what you think about my new design:

==Usage==
=== Project banner ===

The {{NESproj}} project banner template should be added (not subst:ed) to the talk page of every article within the scope of the project. While the template does not require any additional parameters, you can add an assessment parameter according to the guidlines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo. The full syntax is as follows:

{{NESproj|class=|importance=|type=}}

:{{{small|}}}|yes|messagebox small-talk|messagebox standard-talk}}}}" |- {{#ifeq:{{{nested|}}}|yes| ! colspan="2" style="text-align: center" {{!}} [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo|WikiProject Nintendo]] {{#if:{{{class|}}}| (Rated {{{class}}}-Class)}} }} |- |width="48"|[[Image:WikiShroom2.svg|{{#ifeq:{{{small|}}}|yes|30px|50px}}|Wikitendo logo]] |This article is part of '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo|WikiProject Nintendo]]''', an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to [[Nintendo]] related merchandise and video games on [[Wikipedia]]. If you would like to participate, you can [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{{1|}}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} edit the article] attached to this page, or visit the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo|project page]], where you can join the project and/or contribute to the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nintendo|discussion]]. |- {{#if:{{{class|}}}| {{#ifeq:{{{class|}}}|NA| {{!}} {{{{{class}}}-Class}} {{!}} This page is not an article and does not require a '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo/Assessment|rating]]'''. | {{!}} {{{{{class}}}-Class}} {{!}} This article has been rated as '''{{{class}}}-Class''' on the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment|assessment scale]]. }} | {{!}} {{-Class}} {{!}} This article has not yet received a rating on the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment|assessment scale]]. }} |- {{#if:{{{importance|}}}| {{!}} {{{{{importance}}}-importance}} {{!}} This {{#ifeq:{{{class|}}}|NA|non-article page|article}} is on a subject of '''{{{importance}}}''' [[:Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria#Importance of topic|priority]] within Nintendo for inclusion in [[WP:1.0|Wikipedia 1.0]].}} |- {{#if:{{{type|}}}| {{!}} {{{{{type}}}-type}} {{!}} This is a Nintendo '''{{{type}}}''' article.}} |}<includeonly>{{#switch:{{lc:{{{class}}}}} |fa=[[Category:FA-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |a=[[Category:A-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |ga=[[Category:GA-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |b=[[Category:B-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |start=[[Category:Start-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |stub=[[Category:Stub-Class Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |na = [[Category:Non-article Nintendo pages|{{PAGENAME}}]] |#default=[[Category:Unassessed Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] }} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{importance}}}}} |top=[[Category:Top-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |high=[[Category:High-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |mid=[[Category:Mid-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |low=[[Category:Low-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |bottom=[[Category:Bottom-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |no=[[Category:No-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |#default=[[Category:Unknown-importance Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] }} {{#switch:{{lc:{{{type}}}}} |game=[[Category:Game Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |character=[[Category:Character Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |location=[[Category:Location Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |system=[[Category:System Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |corporate=[[Category:Corporate Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] |#default=[[Category:Other Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}[[Category:WikiProject Nintendo articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly><noinclude>

Now all articles will be added to Category:WikiProject Nintendo articles in one main pool and users can define what "type" of an article it is (game, character, location, system, or corporate) for further organization.

New categories will have to be made for all the "types" of articles. These categories can all be place in Category:Nintendo articles by type which can go in Category:WikiProject Nintendo articles.

I not very good with this coding stuff, so hopefully someone can tell me if I did it right. --bse3 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Since no one gave any input I decided to go ahead. Here are the new categories. I added a few articles to each category to get things rolling, but I'm not going through all of them. Hopefully the articles I added will give a general indication of what each category is supposed to represent. Feel free to add new categories or alter the existing ones. Just be sure to do it through the template. --bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 04:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Questioning imporatnce of Super Smash Bros.-related articles

Note: The following discussion was transferred from Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl

High importance: Mario, LoZ, Pokemon, Metroid. The AAA franchises.

Smash is nowhere near an AAA franchise with only 6 million copies sold. It's just a party game. Wikipedian06 08:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll just point out that 2 characters AT LEAST show up in smash from each of those franchises.DurinsBane87 08:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering the game's popularity as a series, I would say it is important. -Sukecchi 12:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Smash Bros. is only a party game in the sense that it's a good game to play at parties. It's not in the party game genera like Mario Party or Pac-Man Fever. It's a fighting game, like Soul Caliber and Street Fighter. Joiz ^A. Shmo 13:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Leave it up to the project members to decide how they rate this game, or take it up with them. I have no idea why you make such an issue of this.--Atlan (talk) 18:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You've obviously never seen any pro videos. Smash is the 2nd or 3rd largest tournament console games circuit [Melee, that is]. Seriosuly, saying it's just a praty game is retarted. You don't know the circuit, genius. Seriously, only Halo, and maybe Street Fighter are played more competitively [console games, that is]. Hint: Ken [the Melee world champion] has won around $70,000 or so on the pro circuit. It's a competitve game, not just a party game. Do your research dude=the smash world forums. So stop calling it just a party game. It is a party game, but it's also a heavily played tournament and competitve game. Seriously, there are tournaments every week, there are dozens upon dozens of bi and tri weeklies every week, and Super Smash Bros. 64 is one of the most played games on Kaillera. Know the community, before judging or saying anything. Melee has been a tournament played game since 2003, and continues to this day, and will beyond Brawl, just like Super Smash Bros. 64 before it. As for the sales, Super Smash Bros. Melee sold 7 million units. Halo 2 sold 9 million. It was the Gamecube's best selling game. That's AAA genius. It outsold Halo 1 by about 3 million units. Seriously. Stop hating on the series, and be logical. Brawl more then not will be the Wii's best selling game, and the Wii at the moment has sold more system units then the PS3 and the 360. You do the math, and you can stop being a biased fool.--faceurhell 5:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not bite the newcomers. We point him in the right direction and let him go. Let's not start throwing insults around. Joiz ^A. Shmo 03:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

ROFL, who cares about the "tourneyfags." (a term borrowed from 4chan [1]) They represent a very small portion of the fanbase, and yet are the most vocal. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less about the competitive players and IMHO, they need to get lives and find something better to do with their time than play Smash 24/7.

Character representation doesn't matter. Nintendo's characters are only in Smash because the game would be a generic fighter that no one would give a damn about otherwise. We all associate Mario with great platforming action and Metroid with exploration. None of this genre-defining gameplay is present in Smash. With this argument, you might as well say that Mario Golf is a high-importance game simply because almost all Mario characters are represented. However, the signature gameplay that makes a Mario game Mario (i.e. the platforming) is nowhere to be found.

The Wii's best selling game is Wii Sports at almost 10 million copies, IIRC. I highly doubt this game will come anything close to that, especially considering that sales of Wii Sports will continue to increase as more and more casual gamers enter the market. The best selling "real" game (not a minigame collection) will most likely be Super Mario Galaxy, the next installment in Nintendo's flagship franchise, a Miyamoto-designed successor to Super Mario 64. (Mario Sunshine didn't have Miyamoto on the team, and that's why it flopped.) It's already outselling Smash on Amazon.com by a large margin (#36 vs. #52 as of yesterday night). [2]

Yeah, I don't see any reason this is high importance material. Having a bunch of vocal competitive players trying to promote the game and their competition in everyone's faces doesn't make this franchise any more notable. Wikipedian06 08:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason that Wii Sports sold so much was because it came Packaged with the Wii in every country but Japan. Trust me: more people are going to buy a Wii than any particular game on the Wii. The name "Tourneyfags" is a derogatory term towards both tournament participants and homosexuals, by the way, and your denouncement of these tournament participants in the following sentences does not help your case. This is regarded as a personal attack regardless of whether your comment reached your intended targets.

Aside from that, your personal vendetta against these games is clouding your arguments. Having a bunch of "vocal competitive players" is indeed noteworthy when cash prizes as large as 12,500 USD are given away in tornaments with participants from more than one state, let alone 30 states and two other countries. Seriously, calm down and think your arguments through before busting in with personal attacks. You Can't Review Me!!! 18:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Smash is nowhere near an AAA franchise with only 6 million copies sold. It's just a party game. Wikipedian06 08:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Consider the fact that Super Smash Bros. has only two released games to its franchise, and that 6 million becomes a pretty good figure. You Can't Review Me!!! 03:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, this page pegs Smash's sales as 10.89 million, not 6 million. Metroid's not THAT much higher, at 13 million (note that I do not think Prime 3 factors into that number.) Donkey Kong is by far a bigger seller than Metroid, as well, with over three times Metroid's sales according to the same page. --HeroicJay 04:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedien o6 you can prove a point you but when you name call your just be childish and what's the big deal if it of high importance I mean right now its one of the games that has new information for it every day and by calling it party game defeats the purpose of you writing because so what if it is a so-called party game it still is extremely successful and if you don't call Wii Sports a party game well there is something wrong with you.Marioman12 14:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

First off, Mario Galaxy's release time has been known longer than SSBB's, i believe. Secondly, you're trying to make the point that in order to be a "AAA" franchise, the game needs to beat Nintendo's main franchise? That's pretty faulty logic. Considering the massive undertaking that nintendo is using involving this game, and the excitment generated anytime new info is released about it in the gaming media, you have no legs to stand on. Last I checked, I believe Nintendo Power had a section with new info on brawl or talking about brawl in every edition. The only person I've encountered who seems to think otherwise is you. DurinsBane87 15:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

What the heck is AAA?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.101.182 (talk) 18:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know either, but I think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Would everyone settle down and start talking about the article rather than throwing around insults?

Anyways, Wikipedian 06, it seems to me that your two main arguments are sales figures and being a "party game". As far as sales are concerned, why not wait until after the game is released. Also, just how do you define a "party game"? Sure, the Super Smash Bros. series is best known for it's multiplayer, but SSBB focuses just as much on one-player as multiplayer.

That being said, perhaps you should double check what Atlan said earlier: "Leave it up to the project members to decide how they rate this game, or take it up with them. I have no idea why you make such an issue of this." I couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh, and what does AAA mean, anyways? The world's hungriest paperweight 19:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

By "AAA" he's probably refferencing to high selling series, as in Mario and Zelda. Atomic Religione 20:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

SHUT UP!!! This isn't a forum or your little 4chan crap, "noob(s)" :). Thank you. *kaburicho 03:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Kaburicho, assume good faith next time. No one forced you to post here. There's no reason to be rude to people, period. RobJ1981 05:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

"High importance" is defined by the WikiProject. It's not whether or not we think it's going to sell 10 million or more copies or if it has so-and-so character in it. Whether or not it's a "party game", "fighting game", or whatever, doesn't matter and we don't need to be discussing it here. Please cease the personal attacks and only discuss how to improve THIS article. This is not a fanboy forum. Thanks. Useight 05:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

C'mon, trashing the tourney scene...wtf? Seriously, only Halo's tournament scene is bigger, and Melee's sales dominated Halo 1's. The series's sales are well over 10 million, which makes it the best selling series with only two released entries. Donkey Kong sold well, becuase on the SNES Donkey Kong Country came packaged with the SNES, just like Wii Sports and the Wii. And enough of these 4chan quotes, that is falt out unintelligent. Halo is considered AAA, and Smash 64's and Melee's combined sales come pretty close to the Xbox version of Halo 1 and 2 combined are (behind by anywher from 2 to 3 million units at most). Brawl will make the series sell better then Metroid's, and the subject maker will have just contridicted himself. Again, Melee is the 2nd most played console tournament-played game, behind only Halo 2, and helped give re-birth to the console tournament scene, along with Halo (they both remade the console game tourney sccene together, and made it for the masses).

And to the person who called them tourney-tards, just stop. You don't know anyone who plays msahs competitvely, so what gives you the right to judge=??? You don't have the right to judge people you don't know, PERIOD. Besides, many (if not most) of the professional players are college students as many diffrent colleges. Smash is virtually the Street Fighter of this era, and Melee is barely outsold by Street Fighter 2 as the best selling fighting game of all-time. Brawl will probably outsell both, considering the Wii's sales. The original post maker clearly doesn't know the stats, and clearly doesn't know the smash comunnity AT ALL. Donkey Kong got nearly half it's sales from the original DOnkey Kong Country, which sold around 15-20 million units, and was packaged with the SNES, the best seling game console of the 4th generation of video gaming.

Mario got 40 million of it's over 190 million sales from Super Mario Bros., which was bundelded with the NES [which was the best selling system of the 3rd generation of gaming], Super Mario Bros 3's near 20 million units sold, and Super Mario World's 20 million unit sales, which is the best on the SNES. The 4th and 5th geneartion of gaming is where Donkey Kong and Mario got most of their sales. Again, Brawl will make the Super Smash Bros. series outsell Metroid [contradicting the original statement], and Brawl will make the series the second best sellling series of all-time with only 3 entries, behind only Halo. If that's not AAA, and Brawl being most likely the best selling game of the fighting genre, I don't know what is. It's a 2D party AND a 2D Fighting game. --faceurhell 7:05, 29 September 2007 (PCT)

The discussion was moved to this talk page because it is more relevant to WP:NES' workings than to Super Smash Bros. Brawl's article. Any thoughts on the matter? You Can't Review Me!!! 07:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Category Tree

I think we should put a Category Tree on the main project page for easier navigation. Maybe something like this:

<categorytree mode="all" depth="2" hideroot="on" style="border-top:2px solid #CF5440; border-bottom:2px solid #CF5440; border-left:2px solid #CF5440; border-right:2px solid #CF5440; width: 500px; height:200px; overflow:auto; padding:4px; align:left">Nintendo articles by type</categorytree>
The border matches the color used in Template:NES. The width is set so that all pages fit on one text line even with all the categories expanded. I was not able to get the depth setting to work and would also like to remove the namespace names to make it look neater. I do not know how to do this but asked here (at the bottom).
–bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 02:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

VG Sources Guideline Proposal

At Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources, there is a proposed guideline on sources in articles in the scope of WP:VG. As a lot of the Nintendo articles are in this scope, it may be relevant to the project. Your edits and comments are appreciated. User:Krator (t c) 15:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

Currently, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars has two lists pertaining to it (List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). User:TTN decided it would be best to merge the lists into the main article and split Smithy Gang into those articles. I recently merged Smithy Gang into the list of chatacters by removing the non-notable characters, and I have asserted that a cameo section in the list of characters is valid, per Wikipedia:Trivia sections and Wikipedia:Handling trivia that uses Alex Trebek#Cameos as a good example. I have suggested that we rename the articles per Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves to something along the lines of Characters of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and World of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) just like Characters of Final Fantasy VIII and World of Final Fantasy VI or Gaia (Final Fantasy VII). I believe if these articles are to evolve beyond a non-notable list, they should be renamed. For example, List of Final Fantasy VII locations was merged into Gaia (Final Fantasy VII), because a World article is notable, but a simple list of locations is not. That is why there are other secions of the article to make it a World article. It simply has not been renamed yet.

TTN believes the citations in the development and reception sections of the list of locations, books and magazines, are trivial sources. When I added that the 3D perspective of the game is reminicent of Equinox to the main article, TTN removed it since my souce was "the opinions of the Nintendo Power player's guide writers". Although it was actually Nintendo Power magazine, I do believe a magazine is a reliable source, and I gave a page from Next Generation Magazine which also said the same thing. In addition, I was surprized that TTN said that it was from the players guide, since he claims to own the players guide for the game. He has not verified this, since I asked him for citations in May, "Could you look in the back of the Player's Guide and tell me what “types” of … Magic? I forgot what they call it in the game … well, anyways, what types of Special Attack or whatever it is (actually, could you find out what it's called?) there are? I remember some vaguely when I owned the guide like “Fire”, “Jump”, “Electricity?”, etc. Could you provide a citation, like the page number with a quote in context?" TTN replied that he was going to "get to it" (User talk:TTN/Archive 5#List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). TTN claims the player's guide is "at the bottom of a box that's behind at least five others in a cramped space". Seeing that TTN did not recognize that the page was not from the player's guide when I provided a scan of the page in question from Nintendo Power shocked me. However, I have continued to assume good faith by not questioning TTN's honesty.

Per Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus can change, I have offered five different reasonable, temporary compromises that might integrate my idea with TTN's.

1. Go over the list of characters so we can delete non–notable characters
2. Rename the articles by following the steps at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves.
3. Cut down the geography section list of locations by cutting it into the regional maps the adventures use when traveling from one to another. I can get pictures and write the fair use rationals, and someone can cut down the text that has no citation and does not allude to other media.
4. Write the concept and creation and reception sections for the list of characters
5. Write the concept and creation section for the main article

TTN rejected my compromise because it still keeps the articles. I agreed I would consider a redirect, but Wikipedia:Article size does not allow that, since the list of locations is currently 82 KB long. Instead, I agreed to help cut down the geography section that is the bulk of the article, but TTN rejected that as well because TTN states, "I am not interested in working on the article in regards to improving it." and "get past this "having sources automatically means that this information is good" mentality." TTN states, "I don't think they have or will ever assert notability." I have replied with, "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so if you don't think the articles will ever assert notability, we cannot yet know this, per Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#I don't like it.

Would you please take a look at Talk:Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and give us your thoughts? Taric25 00:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Metroid?

Mabye someone should create a WikiProject for the Metroid series. I would join it since I have played just about every game in the Metroid universe. Thor231 19:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Try a task force instead, it may be a pretty small wikiproject. -- ReyBrujo 01:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Paper Mario Characters

a while ago I created a page that listed the characters of the paper mario series. It became a huge article, with tons of people contributing, and then once perfected, or close enough to it, people starttyed editing less. I did the same, as it had been under fire before, and was saved, but then User:TTN placed a merge suggestion, but was discourteous enough to not inform anyone, so when I only checked my talk page for messages, I was unaware of this tag. I came back to look at it, and didn't see the article, and found out it was merged, with none of the original content on the merged article. Can someone help me gather enough support to bring back this article? C. Pineda (クリス) 01:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...sounds like an interesting problem. First, can you provide some links to look at so that we better know what we are dealing with? Thanks. -Zomic13 03:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

What link should I provide? List of Paper Mario series characters This is the article...but it's only a redirect now because of the unauthorized merge (unauthorized by my standards). C. Pineda (クリス) 03:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I checked out that page. I am shocked that it was simply erased and replaced with a redirect to a list of just four characters. While it is missing a few characters, it is an extensive list with descriptions of each character. What was the argument for deleting it? At this point I would wholly support bringing it back. -Zomic13 04:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

TTN said that "There is no need for a general character list because we have three game articles that cover the single game characters, and this one can easily handle a few paragraphs describing the recurring characters and the general trends (various party members, explorer stereotype, ect)." That's it, and his reason for merging it without discussion was because that discussion topic wasn't talked about for a week, but of course no one knew about it because he didn't leave a friendly note on anyone's talk age (me especially as I'm the original author) and I'm sure because of the almost completeness of the article, people didn't quite see it. I know, since I don't have the time all day to check one single article. C. Pineda (クリス) 16:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I need help here. No effort is getting done with this, and I'm too busy during the week to keep fighting. Can someone, preferably and admin, help me out here? Or else this valuable article, filled with rich Nintendo Knowledge will be put out forever. C. Pineda (クリス) 04:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Nevermind, I took matters into my own hands. The discussion is being put to rest, because of more support on one side. thanks to those who tried to help. C. Pineda (クリス) 00:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Ducktales Question

I've done a little work on this article and had a quick question. According to the tag on the discussion page of the article it lists this as being a "start class" article in this project. I think this article is a little better than start class at this point. How do articles get reassessed in the project. I'm thinking it's at least a B class article at this point. Elhector 22:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)‎

Actually, I wouldn't grade that as B-Class. The sectioning needs to be completely redone. There should be a Development section and a Critical reception section. Condense relevant material into a Gamplay section and remove game guide content. The article needs much more references, and has weasel words ("seems to be one of the more notable video game compositions...") with no citation to back them up. Pagrashtak 15:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, would you be able to provide me an example of article on an NES game that meets the standards that you listed above? I'd like to take a look at one and see exactly what you mean by the different aritcle sections and stuff. I'd then like to use it as a guide to rebuild the DuckTales article. I had a lot of fun playing DuckTales as a kid and I think it's a NES classic so I'd like to work on bringing the article up to par. Thanks! Elhector 18:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You should be able to look at just about any of our VG featured articles to get a good idea of typical structure. I played DuckTales when I was young, too—good luck with the article. Pagrashtak 18:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I just put a new version of the article up. I made some rewrites and some structural changes. Would you mind taking a look at it and telling me what you think? I am going to continue working on the article in the mean time. Need to work on references and such. Also, if anyone else reading this could take a look at the article and let me know what they think that would be very helpful :-) Elhector 21:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It may just be me, but I've never known references to be a necessity for B-class; just make sure any really controversial or non-obvious claims are verified. Ashnard _Talk ^Contribs 16:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Two things:

First, I have a question about the Wikiproject page. Is the following item really neccessary?

• It is best to make a personal copy of an article, just in case you get into some sort of edit war or a revert war. However, be sure to stay cool.

Couldn't you just look at the article's history? Or is this in case the article gets deleted or something?

Second, I'm new to the Nintendo Wikiproject (and also Wikipedia). I've improved the article Nitrobike a bit, and I was wondering if it would be okay to remove the stub tags. Also, feel free to give some suggestions about the article if you'd like.

Filovirus 05:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

For the first thing, it isn't necessary - the history contains any copy you would ever need. For the second thing, I would say that the article is almost there, but it still needs a little more before the it would be a Start class article. If you add another section and maybe a screenshot, then it could probably be bumped up. -Zomic13 06:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I saw the changes you made to the article, it looks better having the screenshot and the references properly displayed. Also, thanks for seperating the online multiplayer stuff. I think I'll try to figure out what another section of the article could be about now... Filovirus 08:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

The article looks pretty good right now, I think it contains enough information to warrant removing the stub tag. If not, it's really close. One more section might still be a good idea. Useight 04:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

RPG's on the Wii

I'm curious, does the Wii have any Role Playing Games to speak of yet? I know that there is a Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles on the horizon and a Dragon Quest, but what about other games? Does anyone know of anything? --ZeWrestler ^Talk 19:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I know there are several on the Virtual Console, but I don't know about full Wii Games. I'll check. --Filovirus 20:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. It appears that there aren't any normal RPGs on the Wii yet. A few games have some RPG elements, but nothing too substantial yet. --Filovirus 20:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh! I just remembered something. There is a Fire Emblem game coming to Wii in about two weeks, I think. --Filovirus 20:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

This is not what Wikipedia is for; it's purpose it to create an encyclopedia. You are looking for a video game forum. Please refrain from discussions like this. For more information see WP:FORUM particularly this line: "...bear in mind that talk pages exist for the purpose of discussing how to improve articles; they are not mere general discussion pages about the subject of the article, nor are they a helpdesk for obtaining instructions or technical assistance." –bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 01:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)