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Introductions

Hi all!

I think we should all introduce ourselves and say why and how were helping this project.

I'm Matt Oakes. I'm 15 from Cheshire, England and I'm a massive My Chemical Romance fan. I've been a fan since the music started filtering onto british music channel in 2004 and have been a massive fan ever since. I plan on helping the project by adding as much as I know to all the articles and helping to organise the project. --Lotrgamemast 21:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, I'm Mitchell. I also am 15 and from Illinois. I have been a fan of My Chemical Romance for a while now, probably since 2004 as well. I was introduced to them by my cousin and have been hooked ever since. Basically I have been following the whole Black Parade mystery from the beginning since the site came out over the summer and have been keeping up with all new information. I have been contributing to the My Chemical Romance related articles probably more out of any other articles right now. For this project I have created the Our Lady of Sorrows article and I am also attempting to get a genre resolution for My Chemical Romance. I am trying to watch vandalism on all related articles and adding, removing, and revising information as appropriate. But my goals for this project is to eventually make My Chemical Romance article a FA and a couple song articles Good articles if not Featured. Right now I want to get a genre resolution though so we can finally get community consensus on a genre. Anyways, nice to meet you, and looking forward to working with you. If you need anything, let me know.  Orfen User Talk 22:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Lol, not very ambitious then with the FA :D --Lotrgamemast 22:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok. So my name is Hunter and I'm only 12 1/2. I live somewhere in New Hampshire, but I don't really want to tell you. You can try and figure out where yourself, but I really don't anyone writing it out in clear view. I like to make my identity a little mysterious, plus, I don't want to end up getting stalked, but I seriously doubt two 15 year old will find where I live and sneak into my house. So, I became a MCR fan over the summer after I heard one of their songs a friend had. I had heard of MCR before that, but had never heard their music, and people I know always said they were emo and really weird and played bad music. But once I heard it, I realized that everyone that said those things were dead wrong. I progressively became more and more "obsessed" with MCR, and here I am now. Like Orfen, I hope to make the MCR an FA, and I also hope to resolve the genre dispute. Just to let you guys know, you guys make it sound like something being emo is a bad thing, but I don't really see why. I'm not exactly emo (ok, maybe 1/4), but I love the music and have complete respect for those that are emo. So, you make it sound like you would hate the band if they were emo. But whatever, maybe that' just me. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 00:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The problem that people have with it is the fact that by "emo" they are saying My Chemical Romance promotes self harm and stuff usually associated with being emo. However My Chem is total opposite of this where they promote hope and living. I don't think emo people are bad or anything but I feel that emo really doesn't mean anything, I never say it in real life. I think what people need to understand is that depressed and emo have different meaning but people are saying MCR is this emo depressed band. I just think they don't deserve to be labeled as something they are not. I wouldn't hate them if they were emo because I am one of those My Chemical Romance fans that are practically obsessed. I seriously can't get enough of their music and am constantly amazed at what they do. I just feel the term emo is being thrown around way too much lately and we should only use it where appropriate. But that's my thoughts on the word emo.  Orfen User Talk 20:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
i never really thought mcr to be emo. people really think that just because some current music is dark, they think it's emo. i always thought that they were more goth and metal influenced. which, as far as i know, emo came from punk. but this is all totally my opinion. i also think that even if they aren't emo, there sould be somthing in the article saying how lots of people think that they are. but again, this is all just my opinion on the subject.Dizzydark 18:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I think some areas of thier music is somewhat punk based and they have said themselves in the recent iTunes interview that some of the newer stuff that they didn't put in the album were "straight punk songs", so there is that element in there. I however do think that they also have some metal sound in the first album and a little less coming towards the newer stuff. The music/riffs in Three Cheers for sweet revenge is very punk infuluanced.--Lotrgamemast 23:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

definatly. they sound kind of hardcore punk influenced. especially on their earlier albums. and i think their new album will be more metalish. in the sense that queen was, with their solos and stuff, like bohemian rhapsody. at least thats what im assuming from their new single. but, like a lot of bands, i dont think they can ever fully fit into just one or two genres. Dizzydark 20:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

That would make them boring if it was only one genre. I really think it is more punk influanced at the start and more metal nearer the newer stuff.--Lotrgamemast 00:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
i agree with all that. and i think if i go any farther with this whole emo thing, theres just gonna be another thing on what genre they are and/or arent. but i really dont think there can ever be a definate answer.Dizzydark 00:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


Hey, I'm ViperBlade (check my profile for info about my real name and assorted stuff). I'm hoping to contribute as much as I possibly can towards this Wikiproject, and I'm frankly honoured to be a part of it.
Thanks for the invite, Orfen!
 ViperBlade Talk!! 17:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm Shane, I've not made any substantial add's to any MCR pages, but I've given nudges and little bits of information where possible. MCR has got to be my ultimate favourite band everr XD Thanks Viper for the invite, hopefully we can make the MCR articles so much better. Kokiri kid 08:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I'm WIKI-GUY-16, just got an invite to join thsi project (thanks íslenskur), so I did. I had just started adding sections to each of the songs called "The Patient's Story", describing how each song relates to his story, and I'm wondering if I should remove those, or keep continung them? I'm also having trouble discerning how some of the song's relate to the patient's story(like Mama, Teenagers, Sharpest Lives), maybe they don't relate at all. I'm the one doing the interprtations of the story though, and it could be very different then my interpretation, so maybe I should remove the sections. Take a look at some of them (I've done them for Dead, House of Wolves, Cancer, I Don't Love You, Disenchanted, and How I Disappear so far)and tell me what you guys want me to do? WIKI-GUY-16 16:33 25 October (UTC)

I think they should all be looked at. There is definatly a story, but there is no original research on Wikipedia. I think these should be discussed and maybe searched for on a different website or something. There is a story and it should be put down on The Black Parade page each of the individual pages but there isn't allowed original research on Wikipedia.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 23:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'd say just keep them for now. They are done well enough. There is no original research but the information is needed.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I just want to thank whoever it was that did The Patient's Story for Mama. I was having a really hard time with that one, and I had tried to write it many times, but it never translated well. So again thanks to who did that, and the Patient's Story is now done. The only two songs that don't have them are Sharpest Lives and Teenagers, because they don't seem to relate to his story. If anyone thinks they do, feel free to add a Patient's Story section to them. Also feel free to add or remove from the existing Patient's Story sections if you feel there's a need for it. WIKI-GUY-16 1:14 28 October (UTC)

Hi guys! I'm Jude ( the female kind of Jude, not the Law kind ) and I'm 21. I don't have a "home town" because I've lived everywhere, otherwise I'd state one. I typically use British English, but on articles that aren't about Britain or British people, I try to use American spellings and phrases. If you see me slip up and put something "too british" in, feel free to edit. I definitely won't be offended. I've been an MCR fan for about 4 years now; since Bullets came out[1]. I recently wrote a letter to The Sun (newspaper) about their "Emo" article[2] which poked fun at them personally rather than fairly and about their music. I invite you all to do the same, if you wish.--Jude 01:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The Black Parade Article

I've made a reorganised version of The Black Parade article, you can find it here. Please join the talk here.--Lotrgamemast 20:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Relationship WithThe Used

I can't seem to find any source info on the last paragraph of "Relationship With The Used" section of the main My Chemical Romance page.Could someone help me out?If we can't find a source than I find we should delete that paragraph. SOADLuver 00:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The part I could see that should be deleted is the part about saying it was in an article. If that article is not found then that part should be deleted. We do need a source saying that they had a disagreement and I don't even know how the song "Disenchanted" has anything to do with My Chemical Romance's relationship with The Used. That I feel should be sourced or even removed since it doesn't seem to apply anymore. I just feel it should be touched on that they were good friends, possibly had an arguement, and now it doesn't matter.  Orfen User Talk 00:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes I agree with that SOADLuver 01:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

WPMCR Userbox

I've created a userbox for people who are members of this wikiproject and added it to their userpages with all their other userbox's. Hope noone minds :D--Lotrgamemast 22:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Personally I'm ok with it thanks for adding it for me. SOADLuver 00:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Good job, and thanks for adding it. It's just too bad we don't have a fair use picture we can use in the userbox to make it a little more interesting looking. I'm fine with it however, it is well done.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 00:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 00:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Matt Pelissier article cleanup

I know Matt is a former My Chemical Romance member, however, his article is still bare and needs a cleanup and is within the project scope. I don't think this is a really high priority project that needs to be done, but I'm just putting it out there because I think it should get done.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 00:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

"Vampires Will Never Hurt You" lyrics... on every My Chemical Romance page?

Why on Earth are there copies of (rather horribly-typed) lyrics for Vampires Will Never Hurt You in the My Chemical Romance link box that appears on every related Wikipedia page? Not only is the entire thing devoid of basic necessities such as question marks; the link to the song page is dead because it is typed as 'Vampires Will Never Hurt You' and the layout is far from genius. In any case, I do not feel that this section is at all necessary anywhere on Wikipedia - including on the song page - considering that this is not a lyric source.
—Shinigami Kamenzi 16:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I think its just some vandal
—Boggon155 18:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Would it be sorely missed if deleted, I wonder?
—Shinigami Kamenzi 21:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

It is deleted already.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Even better!
—Shinigami Kamenzi 21:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The Patient page

[3] as you can see people are trying to delete the page but we should try and give more infomation togethor and keep it going as it is a vital page for the MCR Project involving MCR very very much.

If anyone has any pictures of the animated version of 'The Patient' and the original real life version from the album art please put on the page.

I just feel as of now, I don't think there is enough information to create a full article. I think if anything we compress the information and move it onto The Black Parade page and have a picture and everything there but I'm not sure if there is enough information to warrant it's own article, that's why I had to vote delete.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Commentary on the storyline for The Black Parade

All of this needs to be deleted. It is OR, unsourced and conflicts with commentary in sourced media (for example, NME says that the Patient dies during Dead!). Until you can source it, it does not belong on Wikipedia. Period. --Jamdav86 18:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I think that most all of the song pages should be deleted, except for the singles. we could probably fit everything on the black parade page.Dizzydark 01:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. --Jamdav86 20:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

"Give 'Em Hell, Kid" AfD and Article Cleanup

An article for "Give 'Em Hell, Kid" was recently created and now has an AfD here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Give 'Em Hell, Kid. Please express your opinions on the matter there. I suggest we clean it up and add more to the article, that is just my suggestion. I will get on it and some more information that I can find to it. Also, "The Jetset Life Is Gonna Kill You" looks similar to the "Give 'Em Hell, Kid" article. I think we should also fix this one up. I will try and get some of that done as well. Anyways those are just my thoughts on the matter, just thought I'd bring it up to those that might not know.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 02:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Heaven Help Us

Heaven Help Us is an MCR song that was on the single version of "Welcome to the Black Parade". It's a stub right know and it would be cool if someone could expand it, since I don't know much about it. – Zntrip 19:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Original research

I notice there's a lot of suspected original research in the song articles. Commentary upon lyrics should come from noteworthy music critics, not Wikipedians. LuciferMorgan 01:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

{{user black parade}}

I wanted to let you know that the use of {{user black parade}} violates the ninth criterion of WP:FUC: "[Fair use images] should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages." Please remove the album cover from the template. —ShadowHalo 23:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I removed it.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks! —ShadowHalo 21:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Warped Tour Bootleg Series

The Warped Tour Bootleg Series is a live EP that I fould here on Rhapsody. Should it be incorperated in to this project? There are articles for all the Green Day live EPs so why not one by My Chemical Romance? – Zntrip 23:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually not every Green Day EP has an article.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 03:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I apologize, they do. I haven't checked the template lately and I remember a lot of red last time I seen. Again, I apologize.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 06:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

So should what does everyone think? Should it be part of the project? – Zntrip 21:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, make an article. --Jamdav86 21:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I would say yes, however I'm just not sure if the EP is notable enough. I'd say it for sure should be added in possibly the Other Projects section in the main article but I'm not sure if the EP is itself notable enough for an article. I'd say to note it for sure but I'm not sure if to create an article.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 02:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I also think it is notable enough to have an article. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 14:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The Black Parade future single adds

As some of you may know there has been a lot of unsourced single information being added in The Black Parade article. I have since added an html note to the bottem of the single sections stating: "Please do not add any future singles without a source. This can be considered a hoax which is vandalism and will be treated as such." If a single is added without a source please remove it and add the appropriate warning to the user's talk page. Please see WP:HOAX and WP:VANDAL.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

If anyone wants the link to the next 2 singles being released it is http://www.vh1.com/search/search.jhtml?searchtype=album&searchterm=my+chemical+romance where it states that "Disenchanted" and "I Don't Love You" will be the next singles albums released. If I am wrong for some reason then feel free to delete this.

This was agreed upon as untrue information or at least not significant enough. There is no statement by the band or label saying these are the next singles so the information has not been used. Same with the MTV source stating the same thing saying "Disenchanted" and "I Don't Love You" are albums.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 02:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Discography

Would everyone be cool if I made a My Chemical Romance discography article? – Zntrip 05:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I would say yes, that'd be good. Only thing I could see other people thinking is that there is not enough stuff to put in there but I say go for it.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 05:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
If you really must. --Jamdav86 15:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I made the page. I added as much as I could find. (My Chemical Romance discography) – Zntrip 20:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

That is actually very well done. Nice job. But I don't think you can use the pics.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 07:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure we can. Covers of audio recording can only be used "to illustrate the audio recording in question". See Template:Albumcover. – Zntrip 20:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

No it says "solely to illustrate the audio recording in question". It says "Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement." I think because it is on a page other than their respective articles it is not allowed. The same thing happened in the Green Day article which is now a Good Article. They can't use pictures in the discography on the main article or the discography article. I don't know, that's just what I've seen in my time editing.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

That's how the images are being used right? "solely to illustrate the audio recording in question". There on the page so people can see what the album looks like. All of the other discography pages have cover images and they havn't had any problems. – Zntrip 22:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


If anyone wants the link to the next 2 singles being released it is http://www.vh1.com/search/search.jhtml?searchtype=album&searchterm=my+chemical+romance where it states that "Disenchanted" and "I Don't Love You" will be the next singles albums released.

The Umbrella Academy

I found the article for Gerard Way's upcoming comic book, The Umbrella Academy so I added it to this project. Please add to it if you can. – Zntrip 22:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The Black Parade GA

I have nominated The Black Parade article for a Good Article. All references are sourced and there is no POV issues that I can see and it is pretty long now. However, we can still continue to make changes to it, so if you can find something please change it. It will be helpful and we'll actually have our first My Chemical Romance related Good Article. Thanks!  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 01:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Two things

1. I think we should start assessing our pages. We might be able to get Mathbot to keep a record of the changes in classes (and importance if we do that too). But I'm not the greatest assessor, so I'd really need some help.

2. I'm going to a concert (my first!) on my b-day (Feb. 22) in Manchester, NH. So I was wondering if anyone wanted me to try and get a shot of everyone in the band if I can to put in the article? Or maybe just some other random pix. Also, is anyone else going to the concert? icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 02:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've had this come up in my other WikiProject I am in too. I'd have to say this is way too complicated to do unless someone has a good knowledge of the Wiki markup. Please look at Template:WPBiography to see the amount of work it would take to make a template for assessing pages. I mean, if I could probably sit through and edit one to fit ours but it still is quite a bit and if one thing is screwed up the it breaks the whole thing. Also, their concerts are fun, went to my first on December 15, going again on March 1. Good luck and have fun. Oh, and also, please try and get a pic of them individually and group. It'll be hard but we need new individual ones and a group one. Thanks!  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and just so you know, they don't usually allow cameras into the venue. At least they didn't when I went. They'll take it but if you can sneak one in they might kick you out. So maybe keep that in mind.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion

*Possibly create Demolition Lovers II article (it's the name of the artwork on the cover of 3 Cheers).

I removed this, because I don't think it'd be notable enough. Maybe it could go in a section on 3 Cheers page though. Shamess 08:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

kk. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 13:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's notable either. Gerard's made lots of artwork for the albums. If it isn't already there it can be added to the Gerard Way page. – Zntrip 06:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Source

Can I please see a source for the Like Phantoms Forever EP? Also, I'm not sure if we really need to create articles for the EPs, not all bands have all EPs as articles.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure [4]. – Zntrip 00:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok, good. However I don't know if we should use a foreign source in English Wikipedia. Not many people are able to read that.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 23:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't matter, all the important stuff's in English. – Zntrip 00:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Template

I'm posting this here since template talk pages are sometimes seldom visited. I have made a suggestion on Template talk:My Chemical Romance, and would appreciate any comments anyone has. Thanks, Dar-Ape 22:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Clean-up for the Gerard Way article

The article is getting out of hand with all the sections. I think it needs a clean-up. If anyone wants to try you can, I'll get to it soon, if or when The Black Parade GA passes.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 06:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I've just done a bit, and I've left a note about what else needs to be done on the talk page. CattleGirl talk | sign! 05:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I've also added a bit on there about changing the picture of him back to blond due to the fact that no one is sure if he dyed his hair just for the New Years performance.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 20:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I fixed the HTML that was messed up and deleting the bottom half of the page, so I just thought I'd share since I think it was posted as an issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yunaresuka (talk • contribs) 21:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC).--Yunaresuka 21:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Famous Last Words.jpg

Could some one fix this image so there isn't all that empty space around it? – Zntrip 01:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured it out. – Zntrip 02:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


MCRmy

Any chance we could add something abou the MCRmy?Mcr616 20:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe there is much to add as many sources you can find are on the MCRmy website and you need to registered to view. Maybe mention something in the main article but I don't believe it needs it's own article and it might already been mentioned off hand in the main article.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we should add a little something seeing as the MCRmy is pretty large for a street team. Besides, the Despair Faction has it's own page, so I think if we could stick it in the MCR article somewhere, that would be great. If we need the references then I can get them from the website. Mcr616 01:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

But to retrieve this information then you need to log on which in turn is a little tough to use as a resource, of course, they are still used but more quality resources are always better. I don't know, it is a good quality resource but still if that is the only type of information then I don't know. I don't think we should create an article though, not sure if it is notable enough, that is the other problem of course. If it is not notable and does not have sources then it will quickly be deleted.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 00:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Aaargh!!!

Someone wants to delete the Disenchanted page. Mcr616 20:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

It has already been dealt with. If an AfD occurs then we should post our comments at the appropriate place.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 00:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

K, just thought I should let you guys know so you could vote on it. Mcr616 20:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Pic

Are we allowed to put pix of the back of a cd case on wikipedia? cuz i thought maybe we could upload that pic with the old lineup with matt. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 23:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would be ok. Mcr616 02:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean to put this in for their picture in their article?  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 03:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
If you're using it as their main picture I would say no. It has Matt in it and since he is no longer in the band it is not current information, but if I am wrong and you would just like to use it towards the Early Career section then fine, but I don't think it should be used as the main picture. I'd rather go without a picture than add a non-current one. For the Sum 41 article as soon as a member left their band they stopped using him in the main picture. Since Matt left quite a bit ago I don't think we should use it as the main picture.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be a good pic to put in the early career version because it's the only group picture I can seem to find with Matt in it. Mcr616 20:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Yea, that's what I meant. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 21:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's a link 2 the pic; http://deniseraisbeck.tripod.com/mychemicalromancefan/thumbnails/400x300/0604_my_chemical_romance_a.jpg icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 22:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Either it's the wrong link or the pic is gone.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Weird. Here's a new link. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I see, well, not sure if we should add it. First is it fair use? And second do you truly think it is needed? We have a picture of Matt in his article so not sure if the My Chemical Romance article would necessarily benefit from it. I don't know, I mean, add it if you want and can find fair use but I'm not sure if we necessarily need it, we have quite a few pictures already. I think we need to focus more on content now.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Should contact the band's management company and see if they'll release a photo for your use, or better still, under the GFDL (basically "any use for any purpose") There's form letters somewhere around on Wikipedia that you can send out. The plus side is they get to have whatever photo *they* want of themselves up there. For CD covers I'd recommend looking at the rationales used on the Tool page's images, last I checked they were all correctly done for CD images for fair use. Orderinchaos 15:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Gerard Way Talk page

I think Talk:Gerard Way needs to be watched. There is a lot of content on there that has nothing to do with improving the article. Should this be deleted? I know vandalism can be deleted but should we delete the nonsense? It's just a lot of it is getting out of hand and I think perhaps it should be looked into and deleted. I would delete it but I am unsure if it can be deleted. Just sort of bringing it up to everyone to see if this is an issue that should be looked into.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 03:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree. I have it on my watch page, but I never know if I can delete comments or not. I deleted a huge portion of nonsensical comments and uncalled for remarks from Talk:Billie Joe Armstrong and no one complained, but I'm not sure what the rules are on that. I'm just unsure of what the talk page rules are. It seems to me like we should be able to remove nonsense and "gerard way's sxc" comments... seriously.--Jude 05:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it says at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons: "Unsourced or poorly sourced controversial (negative, positive, or just highly questionable) material about living persons should be removed immediately from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, and user pages." I think that means that we can remove it.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 07:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
This is also on WP:TALK as well.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 07:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Under Pressure

Is this a single for My Chemical Romance? I was under the impression it was only a cover and then sold for charity. And does it need it's own article? Wasn't it deleted before? At Under Pressure (My Chemical Romance and The Used song). Mainly I need to know about the single because I don't want it in the template if it isn't true.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 02:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

It is an actual single. It was produced by Howard Benson and you can buy it on iTunes. It also appeared on American charts and it's called a single of The Used atricle. I don't know if it was deleted before, I just discovered the artilce. – Zntrip 02:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Like Phantoms Forever EP?

What is the Like Phantoms Forever EP? I have never heard of it and when I tried to search for it on google I couldn’t find anything. The reason I am asking this is because I seen it in the Open Tasks Section and I’m totally unsure of what it is. --MyChemical 12:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

It apparently is a rare EP that only about 200 or so were released as a supplement to a show they did early on, I believe that they were sold out before the band even got a copy. There isn't much information about it or the other EP so not much can be sourced anyways. This is why I am not sure if we should create an article for these EPs as they are fairly insignificant and if there isn't much to source anyways it wouldn't last long. Especially with The Black Parade songs up for deletion. Not enough significance and lack of sources is going to be the end of those articles unfortunatly.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


Yeah I think the EP's should be taken off because I had no idea what they were and I think if you can't really find any sources for it it should be taken off. --MyChemical 00:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

It's listed on the discography page, but other than that I don't think it needs to appear any where else. I'll removed it from the task list. – Zntrip 02:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Heres a pretty good link [5]. You may have to click the ok for the age thing. but it does seem pretty reliable (and it's in english)hope it helps a little. Dizzydark 01:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest a paragraph or small section on the discography page, without creating a new article. Only the albums and maybe a few notable songs that made the news or surrounded a significant event should have separate articles, although you're free to write about the other stuff in general articles, either under the band itself or a discography type page. Orderinchaos 15:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Future singles

Has "I Don't Love You" been confermed as the next single? I can't find a site that says that it is. Someone put a link on The Black Parade artilce, but I can't open it. – Zntrip 22:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The band has not officially came out and said it is, although an email was sent out to the mailing list. Still, nothing can be sourced yet. The article does open, but I think the article name is wrong and should be I Don't Love You instead of I Don't Love You (song) since there isn't another I Don't Love You article.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 21:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

We can just ask an admin to "resurrect" the old article... icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 21:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Flickr

Can we use any picture on Flickr? Cuz if we can, I'll go through and add a bunch of pix of mcr and the band members, as I saw a lot. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 03:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

If it fits the free use criteria. Mcr616 19:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Does that apply to all flickr pix? I think it does, but I don't want to get in trouble for uploading copyrighted images or something. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 21:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
What is flickr?  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 01:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
a website. icelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 01:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Then I probably wouldn't suggest using it. You just never know.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 02:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well there is a image license template for flickr and there are several pix that have that license that don't seem to be getting deleted every week. So... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Icelandic Hurricane (talk • contribs) 02:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
Are these images you took yourself? If so, upload them to commons.wikipedia.org instead and they can be used not only in this article and project, but in any other language Wikipedias that want to use them (eg french, german etc) If not, you need a fair use rationale for each one. Orderinchaos 15:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Cubicles (song)

"Cubicles" has been tagged for deletion. – Zntrip 06:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)