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[edit] Discussion about this WikiProject

I have started a discussion about this WikiProject at WP:MOTOR. Please contribute to the discussion. DH85868993 (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

As per the decission reached here, I'm merging the two wikiprojects, the content of WikiProject Grand Prix motorcycle racing has been archived and the page redirected, but I need an admin to merge the talk pages. Chris Ssk talk 01:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I archived the WikiProject Grand Prix motorcycle racing talk page. Please start new discussions in this page Chris Ssk talk 02:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox MotoGP rider

I may be showing my old fogey status, but it appears to me that the "nickname" line in the MotoGP rider infobox template seems out of place. Wikipedia articles are supposed to mirror actual encyclopedia articles, and the nickname line strikes me as something you would see in a fan magazine. If a nickname is a major part of a racer's public personna, such as Muhammad Ali's "The Greatest", then it should be listed in the main body of the article. Again, maybe I'm being a grumpy old man.Orsoni (talk) 07:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Some nicknames are unnecessary, like having 'Dovi' as a nickname for Dovizioso, but Rossi's "the doctor" or Biaggi's the "Roman Emperor" are part of their persona. From a quick look I had in some related wikiprojects, they don't have nicknames in the infobox so we could remove it too. Chris Ssk talk 09:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and remove it from the infoboxes Chris Ssk talk 23:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

While on the subject of Infoboxes, I've noticed the Superbike rider's infobox contains no information on what years a competitor was active. Do we need a "Former Superbike rider" infobox, or just alter the current one?Orsoni (talk) 07:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the {{infobox motorcycle rider}} I made it can be used for former Superbike, Supersport, as well as 125, 250 and MotoGP riders. It cant be used on its own or along with other infoboxes. I made it thinking of riders that raced in multiple championships. ie. James Toseland with only the {{Infobox MotoGP rider}} at his page there is no mention of his superbike wins and championships.
Also in the subject of Infoboxes. I dont like that all GP achievements are mixed together. ie. Andrea_Dovizioso, MotoGP record: 99 starts 9 wins when actually his record is 3 starts 0 wins and the rest are in lower classes. I think it could be something like this Héctor Barberá. Chris Ssk talk 10:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion, all Grand Prix races are equally important, since a 125 victory is a world championship round against the best riders in the world in that class. Barbera's 125 wins should be recognized along with his 250 victory. But you make a good point that there should be some way to differentiate them. However, we run the risk of making info boxes with too much information, when their stated purpose is to give the reader a quick synopsis of the subject.Orsoni (talk) 12:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Motorcycle World Champions templates

I'm not convinced about having the 1949 World Champions in their own column in the Motorcycle World Champion templates (e.g. {{125 cc Motorcycle World Champions}}. I understand why they're arranged like that (i.e. so that each column is a decade), but I think it would look better to just have each column start with the "9" year, similar to the way in which each column in {{Formula One World Constructors' Champions}} starts with the "8" year. Thoughts? DH85868993 (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I Agree 1949 should be on the top left
You obviously don't have OCD because that will drive me insane. I feel it will look sloppy with mixed decades in each column. I don't like the organization of the F1 template at all. I like the columns, just not the mixed decades. Again, OCD. ♫ Bitch and Complain Sooner ♫ (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps we could add code to the template so it rearranges the layout depending on whether the user is a member of Category:Wikipedians with OCD :-) But seriously, I'm not really fussed either way. DH85868993 (talk) 02:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Martin Finnegan

Someone has started an article on Martin Finnegan, the Irish rider who was killed last week. I've tidied it up a bit, but it could use the attention of someone who knows something about motorbikes!-- Diniz(talk) 21:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Phase One Endurance

Hey, i've started making this page and i have a lot of knowledge on the subject but a lack of skill on Wikipedia.

Any help making it a better page would be great. There are no good pags for Endurance team pages on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shredder46 (talk • contribs) 06:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Shredder46, I came across the Phase One Endurance page the other day and made a few edits on it. I removed the History section because it was WP:COPYVIO from [1]. The picture you uploaded was also copyrighted. For legal reasons, borrowing copyrighted images or text and putting it in Wikipedia is not allowed. You must either write your own text or copy text from other websites with a GFDL-compatible license. Same goes for images. You can either upload your own work or images with licensing acceptable for Wikipedia use. Reading WP:YFA would be a good place to start for help on creating Wikipedia articles.
If you plan on contributing in motorcycle racing related articles perhaps you would like to add your name to the project's member list. You can also use {{User WikiProject Motorcycle racing}} on your userpage.
Also remember to sign your post on talk pages by adding ~~~~ at the end. Chris Ssk talk 13:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2010 Grand Prix motorcycle racing season

Keke Ruehle has created today a page about the 2010 Road Racing World Championship, but no useful information is present on the article, and the speculated race schedule is just a copy of this year's schedule. I propose to delete (or maybe even better speedy delete) it, what do you think about this? Asendoh (talk) 18:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

speedy delete the page has nothing to offer from an encyclopedic point of view Chris Ssk talk 20:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I nominated it for speedy deletion, I hope I've done it right since I'm not familiar with the whole process. Asendoh (talk) 15:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion on merge of Repsol Honda into HRC

Hello all. A discussion has started on whether or not to merge the Repsol Honda article into the Honda Racing Corporation article. Please see discussion and leave feedback if you can because we are looking for some. Thanks! Roguegeek (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Formula TT

I have written an article called Formula TT. I took most of it from the German article de:TT Formula, and most of the rest from a French site that has the statistics for the races and is listed as a reference in the German article. Perhaps someone with more expertise than I would like to look through it and fix any mistakes I have made, put the project template on the talk page and link it into any other articles that it has some relevance. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 08:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing and categorisation of race report articles

I've noticed that the new Motogp site has added a section about past results: since the vast majority of all articles (in fact all but some 2008 article) are unreferenced, please add references to them which point to the site.

About categorisation: it's a bit confusing for all race report articles, so I propose to use at least to add [[Category:MotoGP race reports]] and [[Category:xxxx in Grand Prix morotcycle racing|Country Grand Prix]] to all of them. Asendoh (talk) 18:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)