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[edit] History of Michigan

Greetings from WikiProject Oregon! You might want to check on your history article. We've been working with a well-meaning editor who turned our History of Oregon, that was previously a redirect to the history section of the Oregon article, into a collection of templates. While the controversy continues over whether this user's work is helpful, it has finally got one of our members to actually write an article there, since the template solution was universally diapproved of. Meanwhile, your history article, which until recently was a redirect to your history timeline, is a collection of templates, which may or may not be what you want there. Happy editing! Katr67 (talk) 17:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Opinions on how the County Navigation boxes should be organized?

I'd like some other opinions about whether it makes sense for the boxes in Category:Michigan county navigational boxes to use obscure Census Bureau jargon like CDP to organize what should be a user-friendly navigational aid. See comments here. Thanks. older ≠ wiser 19:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I prefer when the longitude and latitude (linking of course to the maps, photos, etc.) is in the box, rather than outside the box on the right hand side. Both is OK, but there are counties in Michigan that don't have it in the box. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Stan
These are the navigation boxes at the bottom of the page, not the infoboxes along the right side. There are no coordinates in the navigation boxes. older ≠ wiser 23:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I've posted to the county nav box discussion, but I'll also mention here that I don't believe CDPs need to be differentiated from other unincorporated communities in the navigational box. The box should strictly be about providing easy navigation among related articles, and it seems unlikely that many people would want to navigate among communities based solely on their census designation. It's also logically inconsistent since it promotes CDPs (a subcategory of unincorporated community) to the same level as incorporated and unincorporated communities. Huwmanbeing ☀★ 13:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tyrone Wheatey FAC

If there is a place to announce FACs for this project, I can not find it. Tyrone Wheatley may be the first college football player bio and first modern NFL player bio to achieve FA according to talk page project tags. Only Jim Thorpe is an FA currently. Please come comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tyrone Wheatley.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Township maps

I have just added a map to the article for Acme Township, Michigan. Any feedback before I create and add more of these? The final version will also include major highways for additional context. Omnedon (talk) 03:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Very cool. The townships are geographically lost without the map reference, and this at least provides context.
Are you planning to do a map of the township itself? If so, then you could include towns (e.g. Bates in Acme Township) that might be good. Same thing with major landmarks (e.g., lighthouses)?
This is a very labor intensive effort, and a tool that will make the articles much more useful. So many townships. You deserve congratulations for creating the concept, and will deserve thanks for putting them in. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Tagging highway articles

From the happenings at Talk:M-14 (Michigan highway) I wonder something. WP:Michigan State Highways has been handling and taking care of the Interstate, US and state trunkline highways and even the few county-designate highway articles. MSHP though is affiliated with WP:US Roads as a "child" project and never been formally affiliated with WP:Michigan. I know some articles are dual-tagged. M-14 was, then it was untagged under WP:Michigan with the rationale "MI State highway tag already incorporates this" but this was reverted and it's tagged again. Most highway articles aren't dual-tagged. Is there any reasoning behind why some are tagged and some aren't? Should all or mostly none be tagged? Imzadi1979 (talk) 03:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Not taking any position on M-14 specifically, but is there some problem caused by double-tagging? There are many articles that have tags for a half dozen different projects. older ≠ wiser 11:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying there is a problem per se, I just would to know if we can set up some kind of guideline for consistency. This way if future little revert wars crop up we have a guideline to settle it. Imzadi1979 (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't Talk:M-14 (Michigan highway), but I ran into a similar situation months (over a year?) ago. I reverted the removal of the WP:MI banner with an edit summary of something along the lines of "WP:Michigan State Highways is not a child of WP:MI". I'm not a member of the highway project, but I think a simple solution would be for that project to list itself as such a sibling. If that happened, it would be a no-brainer. --Elliskev 19:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
That might be the easiest solution, same with the proposed WP:Michigan County Highways (for the county-designated highways and notable county-maintained roads like Brockway Mountain Drive) when it starts in some form. Imzadi1979 (talk) 20:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comments Moved from Main Page

The next three sub-sections are comments posted by a user on the main page, which I am moving over here to the talk page. If anyone has issue with this, please feel free to comment here or on my talk page.Dana boomer (talk) 19:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A really good website

FYI, * List of Museums, other attractions compiled by state government. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Frank Murphy

The wiki police deleted the Michigan state seal and Michigan state flag from this article. I don't know (and don't care) about their purported rationale. These have got to be in the public domain. Can somebody put them in. Certainly the article on Frank Murphy is an appropriate place to put these in. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Removal of Catholic diocese from various articles on Michigan localtiies

Dear Anonymous:

Welcome to Wikipedia.

I notice that you have removed the statement and reference that Charlevoix, Michigan (and 30 other locales is part of the Gaylord diocese of the Catholic Church.

Your systematic removal of the accurate relationship of the geographic organization of the Catholic church in Michigan form a bunch of websites under the theory that "it has nothing to do with geography" is wrong-headed. If you narrowly construe the word "geography", you were still removing a pertinent, true and useful fact. It would have been far better (IMHO), if you had expended all this destructive energy in a constructive manner, i.e., moving the thought or reforming it into a message that would be of use to the readers while leaving the information there in one form or another.

Of course, maybe it is that you have a different agenda.

7&6=thirteen (talk) 05:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Stan

[edit] Mott Community College

Mott Community College ended up with 2 articles and I have set one to redirect to the other. What is more disturbing is that an Mott employee based on the editor user name Mccwebmaster has been editing these articles, which I understand is against Wikipedia policy. And expressly included information directly from the Mott CC's website based on this edit: 15:47, 24 March 2008 Mccwebmaster (Talk | contribs) (6,320 bytes) (Replacing information with information from the Office of Public Information at Mott Community College). I have been look for about 20 minutes to find the right welcome message and/or policy to indicate this is against policy. Anyone willing to address Mccwebmaster or point me in the right direction? Spshu (talk) 20:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, without getting into it (there's not much use in me researching this history when you seem to know what's going on), I would probably say that WP:COI - conflict of interest and WP:COPYVIO - copyright violations are the two most applicabe here. Hope that helps. Tan | 39 20:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Meader

Hello, Michiganians. I reviewed this article for GA, but put it on hold for lack of diversity in sources, along with general MOS problems. I notice she was not tagged for your project. She was apparently a person of interest in Kalamazoo. I suggested in the GA hold comments to find more sources to replace the overburdened obituary from The New York Times. I thought some of you might be able to take a shot at bolstering citations. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)