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[edit] older entries

Should we care about multifactorial diseases? Mitocondrial ones? NCurse work 20:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Any genetic influence on disease should ideally be recognised, it depends on the resources of the project as to the extent of cover. --apers0n 08:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genetic medicine?

The article Medical genetics says: Genetic medicine is a newer (and some would say more fitting) term for medical genetics. The difference (if there is one) should ideally be explained on the main project page --apers0n 10:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, my main project in science is medical genetics and genetic medicine, but I can't tell you the difference. :) I think showing that they're similar expressions is enough. NCurse work 17:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
There is a difference to me. Medical genetics is the study of how genetics affects humans with a particular eye towards disorders. Genetic medicine means (to me) using genetics to treat diseases and disorders: Anti-sense therapy, designer drugs, GMOs, etc. Of course, I come from a genetic background, as opposed to a medical background. Maybe that makes a difference. TedTalk/Contributions 17:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

A couple of suggestions for user boxes here - does the project need one, if so does anyone have a preference?

WOW! They're cool! In my opinion all of the three could be used by the users. If you don't mind I put them on the main page of the project. NCurse work 17:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medical Disorders stub

So, as I read it, the article on Mitochondrial Eve would not fit in as a medical disorders stub. In my mind, it could fit as a medical genetics stub. What about antisense therapy? viruses? antibodies? transplantation? TedTalk/Contributions 17:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Mitochondrial Eve is a genetics stub. Antisense therapy should be medical genetics stub. But viruses, antibody will never be genetics stub, or topic. I ask for a medical genetics stub type, if you show me at least 10 articles. I couldn't find as much... NCurse work 20:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I added my comment on the stub page, but genetic conditions works far better for me. Sandy 18:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I expressed there, condition is too wide. Disorder is between disease and condition. NCurse work 20:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The Asperger's people get pretty touchy about the terminology. Lots of TS people object to disorder, but they have a weaker case than "Asperger syndrome", since the DSM name is "Tourette's disorder". The Asperger's people may reject the disorder term. Sandy 21:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Impossible to have everyone agreed. :) NCurse work 21:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
It is for stubs. The Asperger syndrome people will never see it. TedTalk/Contributions 13:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tourette syndrome

Just wanted to add a note that I need a couple of more weeks to work on it: it's not quite ready for review. I have to finish some copy-editing, some referencing, and writing some large missing chunks (I was going to add a thorough discussion of comorbids under "Screening", as it's important to pick them up when tics are present). Pathophysiology needs to be beefed up. Guidance on anything else I need to do would help. I'm also not sure on the copyright/Fair Use status on images: that is not an area I understand well.Sandy 18:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] genetic testing

As genetic counceling is in the list of main articles, chouldn't Genetic testing be as well ?? Leevanjackson 10:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I fixed it. :) NCurse work 11:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging talk pages and assessing articles

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[edit] Gene Modulation

Does gene modulation with artificial transcription factors come under 'medical genetics'. --Username132 (talk) 19:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Why do you ask it? NCurse work 21:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maghazaji syndrome deleted

This genetic disorder stub was recently deleted after a prod: "Possible vanity article, single medical paper written in 1983, sole link's webmaster appears to be related to Prof. Maghazaji or is Prof. Maghazaji." Most Google hits are from the deleted Wikipedia page. Should we reinstate the page? The contents were as follows (from the Google cache):

Maghazaji syndrome is a human genetic disorder that is characterised as the combination of two congenital disorders hemifacial microsomia and partial gigantism. It was described in an Iraqi family by Professor Haider Maghazaji.

Reference

Maghazaji HI. 1983. Hemifacial microsomia associated with congenital partial gigantism. Dev Med Child Neurol. 25:798-800. PMID 6653913

External links

Maghazaji syndrome

This genetic disorder article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

This disease article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

Categories: Proposed deletion as of 12 September 2006 | All articles proposed for deletion | Disease stubs | Genetic disorders | Eponymous diseases | Genetic disorder stubs --apers0n 18:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I think yes. NCurse work 06:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New categories?

There is a suggestion on Talk:Dominance relationship to merge several articles into one, which seems like a good idea but will need a lot of wikilinks redirected. The article is also heavy with lists, I made the following comment there:

"Rather than having endless lists in article with dominant and recessive disorders/conditions, what about creating new categories Category:Autosomal recessive disorders and Category:Autosomal dominant disorders, perhaps even Category:X-linked disorders? Or else move the lists to a list of dominant and recessive disorders article." --apers0n 11:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The article Mitochondrial disease could be the basis for a Category:Mitochondrial diseases --apers0n 08:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. NCurse work 14:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preimplantation genetic diagnosis

This article plus Preimplantation Genetic Haplotyping probably should not be in the Genetic disorders category, is there a category to group them together?

It seems to be done. NCurse work 10:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ascertainment bias

Is anyone here able to spend some time in ascertainment bias? It is really in dismal shape. Sandy 15:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the language and added it to the requests for review on the main MEDGENP page. --apers0n 17:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks - better already! Sandy 17:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging articles?

Please have a look at that: User_talk:Petaholmes#Merging_articles. The problem is that Petaholmes wants to merge Chromosome banding with karyotype. But I think they're not exactly the same things. Please comment. NCurse work 06:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 23:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Our main listing on the Council Directory is under Biology, with a sub-listing under Clinical Medicine - I wonder if it would be better the other way round? I've also added our listing on the Medicine portal to the Council Directory page. --apers0n 05:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MEDMOS needs YOU!

The Manual of Style (Medicine-related articles) is entering a critical stage: I'm informing people to visit the page, make corrections where possible, and then state there support or disagreements on the talk page, so we can see if there is consensus to turn this proposed guideline into a consensus-supported guideline.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SLITRK1

Does anyone here know how to deal with the context tag that was placed at SLITRK1 ? Thanks, Sandy (Talk) 22:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chimera (genetics) needs this project's attention

Will this project please take on Chimera (genetics) as one of its monitored pages? The article has been getting a lot of attention lately from people who saw a TV show and who add fairly uninformed junk. It could really use more serious editors' attention. Thanks! — coelacan talk — 19:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where is everyone?

I'm surprised no one from here has watched what has happened to Down syndrome during its stint on the main page, or discussed some of the changes proposed on the talk page. Sandy (Talk) 10:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC for DNA

Hi there. This article is now a candidate for a featured article. Any comments or suggestions would be welcome on its nomination page here. Thank you. TimVickers 23:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems we are to an extent ? To be fair we should just put up one article amongst the nominations to give them a chance :) Leevanjackson 18:45, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, apers0n and me have been busy in real life, but now I'm back in business. :) I nominate some of our articles, then let you know about it here. NCurse work 18:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article review

Is there somewhere on this project for folk to add articles for review or reassessment? For example, I think Tuberous sclerosis has been wrongly assessed at A (I think it should be B). Am I allowed to change it myself? I assume I only need to edit the talk page and a bot will do the rest? Colin°Talk 12:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. On most Projects, A-class is a cut above GA, and this article isn't yet GA. (I think you can edit the entry on the talk page yourself, and it will be re-assigned to the correct class.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Of course, article assessment is absolutely open for everyone. Your contribution is most welcome. Change the template, and the bot will do the rest. NCurse work 14:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lesch-Nyhan syndrome

LNS is featured, but in bad shape. Does anyone want to help work on restoring LNS to featured status? All of the needed info seems to be there in the links to the references. Unless someone can help me clean it up, I'm going to submit it to WP:FAR, because it's not currently worthy of featured status. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I'm in. NCurse work 16:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Lesch-Nyhan syndrome has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MEDMOS

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (medicine-related articles) is a proposed guideline discussed and developed over recent months. Please visit the talk page to indicate whether you support or oppose Manual of Style (medicine-related articles) becoming a guideline. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re-assess

I added an assessment index to the top of the talk page. There are a lot of articles assessed as A-class which are actually not GA or below GA class, and should probably be re-assessed to B-class. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm going to take a look at it. NCurse work 20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I've been plowing through them; a lot of the A-class articles aren't cited, and wouldn't even make GA. Some of them have cleanup tags - I backed a lot of them off to B-class. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Of all the articles I re-assessed back to B-class, Tay-Sachs disease has been the only one whose author has worked to bring it to A-class standard. Can other please have a look in terms of re-assessing it back to A-class (which is higher than GA, almost FA)? Talk:Tay-Sachs disease Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I had to re-assess 4 A-class articles to B-class. In my opinion, Tay-Sachs should be an A-class article as it's rather an A-class than a B-class (it's on the edge, anyway). NCurse work 20:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
We'd need much much more editors on this field... :( NCurse work 20:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured List Candidate

There is currently a medical genetics-related featured list candidate:

The opinion of project members would be most welcome. Cheers, Colin°Talk 22:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Colin, for the note! I support it (and already supported in the last nomination). NCurse work 09:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAR

Asperger syndrome has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

[edit] Proposed deletion: Center for Genetics and Society

Center for Genetics and Society (via WP:PROD)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice! NCurse work 05:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genetics FAC

Genetics is currently a candidate for featured article: Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Genetics Reviews, comments, and suggestions would all be appreciated. Thanks! Madeleine ✉ ✍ 03:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks Madeleine, will check it out! This article isn't tagged Medical Genetics at the moment, but leads me onto ... see next section Leevanjackson (talk) 23:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Genetic Expansion

The article genetics and it's FA review has brought up the point that there is no 'genetics' wikiproject - is medical genetics actually genetics, should we change our name? Failing that should we expand coverage, I 'feel' genetics is part of this project... Leevanjackson (talk) 23:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a big question and is quite hard to answer. We should ask the guys at the Medicine project what they think about it. We launched this project to be a platform for medical geneticists, but there are only a few participants, so we should cover the whole genetic area. That's what you think about it? NCurse work 20:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Strictly speaking medical genetics refers to genetics used to study or diagnose human biology, but the study of non-human genetics aids this study so could be considered part of it. The science behind genetics is really part of biology - but that's also an important part of medicine. They're all inter-related. WP:BIOL lists Genetics as a potential related project but no one has taken it up. I think since there is currently a gap, the project should move to cover it and enable any editors from other fields to get involved. The work we have already done is applicable to a broader genetics field so no - one loses . I suppose the project would come under the combined wings of both medicine AND biology as well. So to me it seems a natural development of the project. I expect there may be other steps to change a wikiprojects name esp. a consensus of opinion?, and quite a bit of work with templates etc Of course I am happy to help out:). Leevanjackson (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
After further reading ... from medical genetics article which had some conversations connected
Human genetics differs from medical genetics in that human genetics may or may not apply to medicine, but medical genetics always applies to medicine. The study of Huntington's disease (a progressive neurologic disease) is properly part of both human genetics and medical genetics, whereas the study of eye color (except in situations such as albinism) is part of human genetics but not medical genetics. Genetic medicine is a newer term for medical genetics.
So there is a definite scope to 'medical genetics'! A more fundamental suggestion than I first thought! Leevanjackson (talk) 22:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

When I first started editing Genetics I had lamented the lack of a Genetics wikiproject and considered starting one (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biology#Genetics), but I was fairly new to everything at that point, and ragesoss's response there made me decide that there wasn't much need for it -- the stuff it might cover were mostly covered within the MCB and Ev Bio projects anyway, and it does seem best to work within projects rather than create new ones that won't have many members. Between you and User:Richard001's remarks on the FAC, there does seem to be interest in creating such a wikiproject, we could try doing it. Or we could create a "task force" (as ragesoss suggested) within another wikiproject, no idea how these things work but it might be a better idea. Madeleine ✉ ✍ 03:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest making a genetics project as a daughter project of WP:BIOL and preserving this one a a subproject or task force of both medicine and genetics. If a genetics project was created, all the other banners on talk:genetics could be replaced by it. I don't have the time to establish one myself yet, but I'll probably do so in a few months if someone else hasn't already. With the animals project I was similarly going to start one eventually but others got onto it before I got around to it. I'd be happy to help out in any case. Richard001 (talk) 10:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, we do need a new project dedicated totally to genetics. But I think it should be under both biology and medicine wikiprojects. Do you think we are ready to announce it at the wikiproject council? If so, I can do the whole process... NCurse work 16:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Just noting a newly formed related project Human Genetic History WP:HGH to throw into the pot. LeeVJ (talk) 05:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay... I've added the proposal for a Genetics project here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Genetics, you can add your names to it. Madeleine ✉ ✍ 19:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Conclusion Wikipedia:WikiProject Genetics has been created. LeeVJ (talk) 00:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need an editor

X-linked ichthyosis was recently expanded by a new editor. The article needs help with tone and sourcing. If someone here has a few minutes and an interest in this article, I'd appreciate the help in improving it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two major pigmentation-related articles missing

We badly need articles on psittacin and axanthism. They are mentioned at albinism if anyone wants some context. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 12:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Post-transcriptional regulation desperately seeking editor

Hopefully some medically interested geneticists on Wikipedia can add information about the relevance of Post-transcriptional regulation to human HIV to this article. Sorrowfully this article is a one-two sentence stub recently up for deletion! --Blechnic (talk) 03:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MCOTW

Pectus excavatum was chosen for the Medical Collaboration of the Week and could use some help from people with knowledge in genetics. Hope you can help! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Genetics

Wikipedia:WikiProject Genetics is a new, related WikiProject. GregManninLB (talk) 02:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wilson's disease

I have finally finished improving Wilson's disease, and would love someone with an interest in genetics to proofread it before I submit it for good article candidacy. JFW | T@lk 16:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject autism

i've created a proposal for a wikiproject autism on the project proposal page. i'm looking for editors to back it. Mrld (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)