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  1. Discussions from 2006
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[edit] Assigning importance to articles

I just added a project alert to notify everyone that we still have almost 300 articles that need to be assigned importance. I did a few to get it started. Importance means how important the article is to the subject of Louisville in the Wikipedia, or at least, that's my take on it. Cheers! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 15:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Milestone for main Louisville article

Wow! Louisville, Kentucky is now in 25 languages as of today! Great news for our beloved hometown! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brainstorm: Improving communication and coordination

It has seemed that for much of this year, communication and coordination in WikiProject Louisville has been lacking, and it's not really surprising given that this has always been an open, loosely coordinated project. I tend to believe that communication between project members is a major key to improved coordination, but others may have other ideas. At any rate, I am starting a brainstorming list for everyone to insert their ideas about how we can improve communication and coordination in the project. Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brainstorming ideas

  • Improve outreach by starting a project newsletter that would be delivered monthly to members' talk pages. Members, of course, will be able to opt out of receiving them. This is technically easy to implement, as many other projects are already doing it. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Appoint a project coordinator via consensus of the membership. This coordinator would need to be a true Louisville booster (not necessarily a current resident, and note, I don't mean article boosting, but rather truly caring about the city and its complete appropriate coverage in the Wikipedia). The coordinator will use their discretion to decide the top efforts for the project to pay attention to. And this person would work diligently to encourage and recruit members to take part in these top efforts. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Improve project documentation to clarify to members, prospective members, and Wikipedians in general the various modes of participation. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Enhance communications with other project members by standardizing the list of members to include talk and contributions links. Also, separate inactive and active members on an ongoing basis. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 22:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I just did the separating members thing at WPKY. I think it's a good idea. Acdixon 17:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
  • New guy here :-) Ok I read below something about bots and flaging. Is it possible for someone to create a bot that would post notices to project members ... say a list of needs such as articles needing expansion? Could we also use this to generate a list of users -- say if someone creates or edits a Louisville wiki-article we flag that user and send them an invite ? Just a thought. M-BMor 18:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
    • We have alerts and we've been talking about a periodic newsletter. Also, for articles needing expansion, check out Category:Louisville stubs and Category:Louisville articles with todo lists. Re: invites, we probably need to keep that limited to those Wikipedians who are clearly seemingly interested in working on Louisville-related topics; otherwise, we may just end up with an even longer list of inactive members. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

I think outreach would be a good idea... trying to get more regular Louisville editors. Obviously lots of people are interested in Louisville history and current events, yet most new stuff about Louisville seems to get added by the same 3-5 people. It just seems like the project can only really be so good with the small number of active people. I think maybe a newsletter would help here, just to kind of make sure everyone knows what our monthly focus is, what we're collaborating on, and what Louisville articles might be in the news. For example the failed Old Louisville FAC... as an individual I couldn't deal with the problems people brought up, but as a collaborating project we might have been able to do it.

But still, even great coordination won't overcome the fact that there are just about 5 of us, so I think our effort should be on figuring out ways to get new Louisville editors. I'm not really sure how to go about that, I've seen to it that there's a plug in each issue of "the Highlander", a monthly newspaper mailed to every house in the Highlands, encouraging people to log on and edit Louisville articles... but no one's really come forward to do that yet. Maybe we need to reach out to people who write about Louisville, like U of L, the Courier-Journal, LEO... just get the word out that if people are interested in preserving Louisville's history they should edit some Wikipedia articles. But then there's the problem of attracting POV pushers more than people who are just interested in generating neutral, academic-like articles... the latter is a summary of the current crop of regulars, and that's a good thing.

But my point is that we need to get more regular editors, somehow or other. All of the other things Stevie mentions are important, and we should look into them, but my main concern is with getting a critical mass of active editors. --W.marsh 17:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

  • (brought from Stevie's talk page) While the idea of recombining several descendant projects of WikiProject Kentucky has been pretty thoroughly killed (for some understandable reasons), promotion of communication and collaboration between projects still seems to be a way to create a rising tide that will lift all ships. The solicited contributions of some of this project's editors were key in helping me get William Goebel promoted to FA. I wonder if a common peer review area would be a good start. In other words, we could start a peer review area of WikiProject Kentucky, where reviews from WPKY, WPBluegrass, and Kentucky-related articles from WPLou and WPKYOVA could be requested. Similar arrangements could be made with other relevant WikiProjects (ex. WikiProject Indiana for WPLou.) I think the traffic in such a common review area would be light enough to allow editors from all four projects to collaborate on articles. I'd love to hear thoughts from others. Acdixon 18:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I wouldn't mind better communication between the peer review areas of WPLou and WPKY, like when we have a peer review that's also related to Kentucky, placing a note in WPKY's peer review area that links back to the WPLou area. And perhaps WPLou's peer review area can always show what's currently being peer reviewed in both WPKY and WPIN. Enhanced communication, or more specifically, automatic info sharing is key, IMHO. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Stress on automatic. Is there a way to do this automatically? Sometimes I feel like the housekeeping on the project pages keeps me from getting all the work done on articles that I'd like to. Acdixon 19:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
        • Here's an idea: when setting up an article for peer review, the WPKY project template should have a setting for peer review (maybe it already does), and then WPLou can show the list of articles from that category (if that's feasible). On the flip side, the WPLou project template should divide its peer review settings into two, one to set up an article for co-review with WPIN and the other for WPKY. Then, each state project can show the contents of those respective categories. If I can work out the technical details, does this sound good? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
          • Definitely. Can we transclude those flagged articles on the respective project pages, or will we just need to check the categories periodically? Acdixon 20:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
            • That's what I would like to do, to transclude a list of articles from a category. I need to figure out if it's possible with Wikipedia software, and if not, see if a bot help us out with what we want to do. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
              • Sounds great. Let me know if I can help. Acdixon 20:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
                • I've thought about it some more. I started a new topic about it below. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • As far as recruiting new active members, I definitely appreciate what W.marsh is doing with The Highlander. I myself had letters to the editor in the C-J and LEO published when the project was new last summer. Perhaps we should approach the Louisville Cardinal to have them tell their fellow U of L students about our project -- it may not be too late to get into the summer orientation edition. I'll be happy to interview or co-interview with them. In addition, I have advertised this project in my Louisville discussion board, my MySpace page and a Louisville MySpace group, and I've even mentioned it on BluegrassReport.org in a couple conversations. Perhaps we should also advertise it on Craigslist? Or perhaps with fliers at Ear X-tacy, book stores, coffee shops, etc.? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
    • To add onto this, perhaps we should inform WikiProject Indiana that WPLou covers Southern Indiana articles as well. Perhaps this would draw in more active editors? I think I'll go ahead and do this. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
      • WP Indiana has even less collaboration. We'd be better off getting peer review from WP KY for my Indiana-related articles that are also WP Louisville.--Bedford 21:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I particularly like your initial ideas. However I think it would be helpful to establish some positions within the WP. Such as a team of members designated to working on the areas of the WP such as Assesment, Articles with To-Do list, Articles needing attention and so on. having a member to regularly watch those areas that understands Wikipedia exceptionaly which then in turn can help the regular members in the areas of the WP as they work. Just a thought. Jahnx 01:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I believe a project newsletter would be a great first step in improving the coordination and spotlighting articles needing improvement or cleanup. They are fairly easy to set up and are routine (per above). I also believe (if I am reading this correctly) that outside contacts would work well for WP Louisville. I've used this successfully to garner more attention to the Kentucky forum at Urban Planet by posting fliers at libraries and coffee shops, where permitted. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 03:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
  • It's good to see WikiProject Kentucky and decendants are active. I've sortof moved to Wikiversity with most of my efforts, so I'm not real familiar with what's going on here. I did however notice some activity at the Kentucky Wikia which might be an offsite development area for these WikiProjects. I like the strategy of caring for Kentucky, Louisville and real-world communities as they are represented at Wikipedia while promoting Wikipedia out in the "real-world". Does Louisville have any Internet Cafes where you could put posters and start a face-to-face meetup? • Q^#o • 19:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Ideas from Meta: Marketing | Poster design group | Wikimedia urban postering campaign | Wikimedia online promotion campaign | www.cafepress.com/wikipedia

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[edit] Concentrated effort: Organizing historic places by Louisville neighborhood

Bedford and I have been talking about the need for List of Registered Historic Places in Jefferson County, Kentucky to be broken down by Louisville neighborhood, and then accordingly mentioned in their respective neighborhood articles. This may then provide an impetus for those who live in or care about specific neighborhoods to then create and/or fill out articles for these places. Any interest or suggestions for proceeding? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review / collaboration sharing between projects

Upon further reflection, it seems that WPLouisville and WP-KY are doing so few peer reviews, it doesn't make much sense to me to build any elaborate setup for that -- I can't see it as being worth the effort... yet. At some point, we could set up a bot to fill in transcludable link pages on a daily basis for the purpose of peer review sharing, but it's overkill for now.

However, we do seem to have moments when both projects need emergency collaboration, generally related to FA candidacies, Old Louisville and William Goebel being prime examples. I propose that we build an alerts system for WikiProject Kentucky. It's easy to do, and it would basically mimic what WP-IN is doing. See User talk: Bedford at the top for an example of an alert banner. Also, WPLouisville already has a similar alert system, but its messages are currently shown only in member banners -- I could easily re-use the alert data to create a second banner so that WP-KY can display it.

I imagine that WPLouisville and WP-KY could show each other's alert banners at the top of their respective project pages. Also, WP-KY members could add the WP-KY alert to the top of their user page or user talk page. We could even create a member banner for WP-KY that incorporates the alert.

What's especially cool about this idea is that this alert system can be used for any kind of top-priority collaboration.

Sound good, or not? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

What if each project's peer review list were transcluded (or whatever the proper term is -- I don't edit much anymore, so I don't keep with the terminology) in the other's? If, on each project, the peer-review list is inside an includeonly block, then outside that block, the peer review lists from the other project(s) is/are added on. For example:
Louisville peer-review requests
<includeonly>
FA candidates
  • Article A
  • Article B
GA candidates
  • Article C
  • Article D
Assistance requests
  • Article E
  • Article F
</includeonly>
Requests from WikiProject Kentucky
{{WP:KY}}(or something similar, which would resolve to...)
FA candidates
  • Article G
  • Article H
etc...
hmmm? --Carl (talk|contribs) 03:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm is right.  :) We would need to make it easy for regular editors to edit the transcludable files without going to the transcluded file itself, via use of headings (which would have edit links next to each of them). Then, if the editor doesn't do it, we would need an administrator to actually add the peer review parameter to the project banner on the affected article's talk page. I still think we should add an alert system to WP-KY, but perhaps we could somehow create shareable peer review data after all. That is, if project members are ready to help maintain these areas. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the alert system is better than nothing, but if the flag-and-bot solution (discussed above and below) isn't too much trouble, I think I like it better. That's easy for me to say, of course, since I don't know how much work is involved with creating the bot or the flag. Acdixon 14:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, here's the deal. I'm supposed to be on wikibreak right now. I honestly don't have the time to do anything very complicated, and I don't see peer reviews being used much to date. The problem I see is the occasional emergency collaboration needed on FA nominations and the like, and the difficulty of communicating that to project members. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I definitely understand that. Since I don't even know how to do these things, my opinion probably ought not carry much weight to begin with. As I said, an alert would still be better than what we have now. Let me know if I can help. Acdixon 16:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
In a completely separate idea, is there any way to create a listing based on the presence of multiple categories (or flags, if you will)? To elaborate: if we assume that all articles important to each respective project have the project's box on their talk pages (thereby generating a flag for that WP) and that any GA, FA or other peer review will have the appropriate notice box placed on the talk page (thereby generating a flag for an active review process), is it possible to generate a list of articles with talk pages containing, for example, both the FA "flag" and the WPLou "flag"? This would remedy the whole problem altogether, as the notification of a review process would be handled simply by flagging the article for an active review.
The benefit of this idea is that all WikiProjects would be able to implement this, without having to constantly check for such things. All relevant WPs would be notified as soon as the article were flag, cross-project becomes irrelevant for this purpose if we assume all projects with a stake in the article will flag talk pages appropriately. --Carl (talk|contribs) 04:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I think I alluded to this before, in that a bot could probably be run to do this sort of thing, but it would need to run probably daily to be of value. And I thought it wasn't really worth it due to our current low volume of reviews. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I see that now. Actually, I was hoping that this idea would be of such monumental use to Wikipedia as a whole that the codemonkeys would implement it so that a bot isn't necessary. But here's to dreaming. --Carl (talk|contribs) 05:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In the news

Kentucky DMV Introduces Game Of Chicken To Driver's Test – Quadell (talk) (random) 17:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested article: Camp Jo Holt

In developing the article on Kentucky in the American Civil War, I ran across a topic suitable for WPLou. Camp Jo Holt was a Union recruiting camp in Indiana, just opposite Louisville, from which Union forces operated during Kentucky's neutrality. Because it was just outside Kentucky, it didn't violate the Commonwealth's neutrality, but was strategically positioned for the day when the neutrality was broken. If no one wants to take this one on, I'll probably stub it in at some point, but I know there are a few people interested in the Civil War in this project who could probably do it better justice than I. Acdixon 13:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it may be spelled as Camp Joe Holt, as that looks more familiar to me and produces more entries in a Google search. But, yeah, that's a great topic to add to our requested list. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 15:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Interesting. I think The Civil War in Kentucky by Lowell H. Harrison omits the "e". Sounds like a redirect will be necessary for one or the other, and both spellings should probably be noted in the article. Thanks for adding it to the list. Acdixon 14:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome. I also just looked in the book "Kentucky's Civil War 1861-1865", in which Harrison is a contributor, and it's spelled "Joe". But alas, many things in the Civil War period seemed to have alternative spellings, like "Sue Munday" and "Sue Mundy". Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I presently have that book checked out as well. I think you're right as to the more appropriate spelling, as the camp seems to be named for Joseph Holt. "Joe" is generally the masculine spelling, while "Jo" generally connotes the feminine. Acdixon 14:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I created a redirect for Jo to Joe.--Bedford 05:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New parameter to project template

I just added "needs-image=yes" as a parameter to {{WikiProject Louisville}}, which can be used in place of {{reqphotoin|Louisville}}. This will save vertical space on the talk page, and it will add the article to the same category. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another phone interview with the C-J

I just wanted to report that, again, I've been interviewed by a Courier-Journal writer. The last time was about the Essjay controversy, but this time it was about a much tamer subject -- How Louisville-area middle-schoolers can use the Wikipedia. :) I talked about WikiProject Louisville, and what we try to accomplish. I talked about how we deal with vandalism. I talked about article history for the sake of rollbacks. I talked about the things about Louisville that young people can learn from reading our articles. I talked about how youngsters can contribute, although I hopefully stressed that it's better for the young ones to read our content rather than try to write it, and if they did write anything, it's best that they know about the subject they are working on. At least, I hope I conveyed all those things accurately. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 00:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Now advertising in Craigslist

Check out this new advertisement in Craigslist for WikiProject Louisville. Based on earlier discussions on getting the word out, I took the initiative and wrote it up. Note: I'll be happy to entertain any suggestions for improving. Alas, it isn't wiki, but it's easy for me to go in and edit it. Cheers! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 00:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taskforces: A way to get more people involved?

I've been thinking lately that it may be useful to start looking into having coordinated taskforces for our project. One big idea I had for a taskforce would be for U of L, as we have lots of articles related to U of L, and this could be a great way to enhance student involvement in WikiProject Louisville. Another taskforce idea would be to cover historical events and properties, as Louisville's history is so rich that a taskforce makes sense. I'm sure there are other areas worthy of taskforces as well. Any thoughts? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 21:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought about that idea about a week or two ago. I was thinking more in terms of "coordinators" among the more active members who took a more-or-less vested interest in a certain category of articles, e.g., my interest in the public school system articles. These coordinators would make efforts to improve the articles in their areas (such as a "University of Louisille Coordinator" promoting the UL articles or my taking pictures of various buildings in the school system as I drive by them). --Carl (talk|contribs) 04:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeap, I was thinking that since the active members in the project were still few, that whoever wants to lead a taskforce should just go for it, and we'll start keeping track of them. Of course they should be of reasonable size. JCPS is certainly potentially large, and it's obvious a big part of that will be creating new school articles, as well as filling out many existing school articles. I might even recommend expanding this taskforce to cover all primary and secondary schools, public or private, in the metropolitan area. Of course, that's up to you or whoever the coordinator will be. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 02:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Todo list discovery added to WPLou banner

Just wanted everyone to know that the {{WikiProject Louisville}} project banner now discovers todo lists automatically, so there's no longer a need to have our own version of the todo list template. Now just use the standard {{todo}} instead of {{Todo-Louisville}}. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 22:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] navbox template

Today I created the template {{Louisville places}} to organize neighborhood and city articles in Jefferson County, possibly even large places like Cave Hill Cemetery and so on. I don't think any other cities do this, but it seems like something that will work with Louisville. Before I add this to all the places in Jefferson County, I'd like to get some feedback. --W.marsh 19:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I like it. Perhaps it could include possibility of Northwest, Northeast, Southwest and Southeast places. Also perhaps say "Louisville Metro" in the caption rather than "Jefferson County, Kentucky". Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I was going for just the simple ordinal directions... it might be information overload to give 8 places instead of just 4. The problem with "Louisville metro" though is I was going to include suburban cities too, like Glenview and so on... I guess those are technically Louisville Metro though. --W.marsh 19:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking the other directions could be optional, as boundaries are not always so simple. Either that, or allow link stacking on the east/west sides and side-by-side links on the north/south sides. I don't imagine there would be a frequently need for these, but it may help clarify in some situations. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 19:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I'll look into that. I'm not exactly sure how to do optional parameters now though, I'll have to figure out somehow. --W.marsh 19:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
It's a matter of conditional logic to test if the parameter was provided. Some examples of this can be found in {{WikiProject Louisville}}. Look at how #if works. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 00:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I've been trying but I'm not very good at this sort of thing. --W.marsh 01:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I guess if it turns out there's a significant need for extra directions, I'll be happy to code it up. Just let me know if the need arises. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 02:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Well it would really help if all the directions were optional, and just the ones that a user wanted showed up in an individual application of the template. That's the reason I haven't added this to more places yet, you're right that northeast, southwest, etc. would be best in some situations. But I'm pretty baffled by the coding so if you could do it, it would probably speed the whole thing up by a few weeks. --W.marsh 03:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Done. Let me know if there are any additional issues. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 03:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! It seems to be working fine.. I've added the optional parameters to Parkland, Louisville for example, it might look a little awkward but it conveys all the information it should. --W.marsh 03:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NRHP resource

I recently learned of an excellent way to get information on any NRHP in Kentucky. You can just call the Kentucky Heritage Council at (502) 564-7005 and ask for Marty Perry. He will e-mail you a PDF on any property you want, which contains 10+ pages of information on the property's history and historical importance, as well as it's architectural importance. They include plenty of footnotes, meaning the information in the PDF will be totally acceptable for Wikipedia as it's from published sources (the PDF itself probably counts as a published source anyway, due to the NHRP process, they're archived in various libraries on Microfilm). Most properties have 5+ pictures as well, which I believe to be in the public domain as it's through the National Park Service, a federal level agency, but don't quote me on that.

Just to avoid getting Wikipedia a bad rap with them, I remind you that this is a really cool service they don't have to provide (they could make you go to the library and print off microfilm), so please be nice to Mr. Perry. --W.marsh 22:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Einbierbitte just had this tidbit in his talk yesterday: "For others that may be curious, the National Park Service has a Weekly Update http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/nrlist.htm which it publishes every Friday with new listings, removals, additional information, DOEs, NHL designations, etc." Sounds very useful for those us diehard WPLou editors.  :) Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 23:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for Exclusion process

I'm thinking we might want to have an "Articles for Exclusion" process in our project. Any subject/article significantly related to Louisville nearly automatically gets included in this project, as what happens with most other projects. However, I'm thinking there will be some articles that 1) are of low importance to Louisville, and 2) have plenty of other project coverage and/or watchful eyes without our project's presence. Tom Cruise seems to be a good example of this, and there may be a good number of other ones as well. Perhaps we should have a process by which we decide which articles we won't cover. Does this sound like a good idea? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 23:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

  • It seems like a lot of articles on the watchlist really aren't related to Louisville history, geography, culture, etc. it's just people who lived here for a while and had no direct impact on the city (it seems like those articles get the most edits too...) I don't really see improving the article on say, Nicole Scherzinger, to use a random example from the watchlist, as something that helps improve our coverage of Louisville. Whereas, a local media personality like Terry Meiners, sure that's a topic directly related to Louisville coverage. It seems like an easy line to draw ("Did they contribute something to Louisville or did they just live there for a while"?) but I imagine there's some gray area. Hopefully that's useful... if people want to continue watching these articles that's fine, but I wouldn't miss them in the watchlist. --W.marsh 02:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
    • W.marsh, your point about clear demarcation is certainly valid as far as how we concentrate our article development resources, but on the other hand, I tend to look at all the people from Louisville as our city's ambassadors who deserve (at least) to have articles that are watched and kept free from vandalism (even if we never work on the articles beyond that). That's why I thought it would be good to identify the low-importance individuals who already seem to enjoy great coverage from other projects and watchers -- people like Tom Cruise and all of the wrestling personalities (and perhaps even Ms. Scherzinger), which seem to pop up on our project watchlist a lot, but don't really need our assistance. We could, I suppose, just have a kind of gentlemen's agreement to remove these types of individuals from our project as we see fit, or we could get formal and list them. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 03:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
      • I don't want to step on anybody's toes, I can skip over items I don't really know anything about in the watchlist. --W.marsh 17:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
        • That's fine. Removing a few articles from showing up in the watch is still under experimentation. The writer of the WatchlistBot may be updating his bot soon to help out with this so that we don't have to totally remove articles from the project. If the bot handles it, we will be able to easily move articles in and out of our project watch without necessarily doing anything with the project banners on the excluded articles' talk pages. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag taken away

Apparently, the Louisville flag was removed due to copyright issues. Does anyone have any ideas on how we can bring a legal flag image in here? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed

Well, I'm off to a rousing start with my FA nom of Confederate government of Kentucky – 2 oppose votes. One reviewer commented that "The lead needs to be reworked and the tone of the prose is decidedly unencyclopedic." If some of the same good-hearted souls that helped save my nom of William Goebel could take a look at this article and see what can be done, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Acdixon 12:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

It may be fruitful to ask members in the American Civil War task force of the Military History WikiProject to help out. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 15:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Good suggestion. I've done just that. I'd still love feedback from any interested members of this WikiProject. Acdixon 16:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm interested, but I don't have the time to invest. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maintenence question

I really know nothing of Wikipedia's technical side, so I'm hoping someone can answer this question. Is there any way to generate a list of articles with pending maintenence tags, within a given project? I think that one of the great things we can do as a project is keep our articles in decent shape, and being able to zoom in and make sure no articles had "citation needed" or other tags, which are relatively easy to address. A monthly report on 'articles with maintenence' tags would be really useful. I just have no idea if it's practical to create such a thing or not... if not, I will stick to just fixing them when I notice them. --W.marsh 17:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

A bot could probably handle this. The complicating factors are that article talk pages get placed into multiple assessment categories corresponding to the project, while articles get placed into various categories for all the maintenance tags. The result would have to be an intersection between what's included in these two sets of categories. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 20:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restarted nomination

Just FYI, the FA nomination of Confederate government of Kentucky has been restarted. Reviews and comments are appreciated. Acdixon 14:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion notifications

If one were to monitor the various deletion forums and find articles nominated for deletion which have been tagged on the talk page with this WikiProject's banner, where would you like to see those notifications appear?

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PROD nominations

  • Ballardsville, Louisville 13 August --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion discussion

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Louisville vs. West Virginia football game - Johntex\talk 16:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question

Question for WikiProject Louisville. I represent Spalding University and was curious if I could edit that WikiProject Louisville Page. The SU page is a great start, but SU really has more to offer than the page really communicates. I'm a member now, but I wanted to make sure I followed the rules of WikiProject. Thanks Pelican07 13:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

  • The main problem here is writing from your own personal knowledge, which is to be avoided. You can add whatever you like so long as it just summarizes a reliable source, like an article in a newspaper or magazine. Citing material published by the school (like a webpage, school newspaper, etc) is okay for purely factual information, but if you want to talk about how great some program at Spalnding is, you'll need to cite a third party source for that. The goal here is to avoid articles just being promotional in nature, articles need to be neutral. I Hope this is helpful, we do welcome anyone who wants to add neutral, encyclopedic content. --W.marsh 13:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. I would want to update some of the information, such as the programs offered (as nursing is currently listed) as well as statisical info. I will make sure the information is objective and pulled from factual sources. Should I cite the source of my info? I understand the encyclopedic content goals and appreciate the response. Pelican07 15:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes, it would be best to cite the information just so we can check it and it will be easier to update it later if need be. Include citations in the format <ref>Citation goes here</ref>, you can read WP:CITE for more information. If you just want to list major programs and statistics, the official site should be fine. --W.marsh 16:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indiana Wesleyan University

The IWU article was recently vandalized by user: 199.8.26.10. He deleted the entire school "History" section and keeps vandalizing it. I tried to restore it, but I was not able to do so. Could you please investigate and restore what was vandalized? I notified editor WikiProject_Indiana, but he has not responded or taken action. Please help ASAP.

Thanks,

-manutdglory —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manutdglory (talk • contribs) 05:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 13:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


Thanks man.

-manutdglory —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manutdglory (talk • contribs) 22:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beck's Mill GA Nom

The Beck's Mill article is currently on hold for a Good article nominee. Any help would be appreciated.--Bedford (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice article, though lacking adequate sourcing per the GA review. I posted a suggestion for a good definitive source for the article (the official NRHP documents), in its talk page. doncram (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
If I knew where to find that, I would use it. The bridge next to it has joined the NRHP, and that helped some.--Bedford 20:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please help building up the Andrew Horne article

I just added an alert calling on my fellow editors to help with building up the currently "stubby" Andrew Horne article. He is now running for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Thanks! Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Museums in Louisville

Some concerns were brought to mention by TableManners about the Category in the including of museums in Indiana which area in the Louisville metropolitan area. I think they should be included and not have a separate category. Share your thoughts at Category talk:Museums in Louisville. Jahnx (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Immediate Goals

We need some immediate goals. May I suggest we get one of the Kentucky Derby Festival Events to Feature Article status in time for them to be the Featured Article the day they occur? Thunder Over Louisville, Great Steamboat Race, and the Kentucky Derby are strong candidates for this. Heck, the Derby should already be a FA. If five of us can have a DYK, a GA, and something featured, we can get a Triple Crown award for our WikiProject, and if any group should have a Triple Crown award, it should be Louisville, for obvious reasons.--Bedford 05:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I wish I wasn't so busy with other things these days, but I think this is a very good idea, and I'll lend whatever support I can muster. I also think we need to bring History of Louisville, Kentucky back up to GA status, if not FA. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 07:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Over at Portal:Louisville/Things_you_can_do, I listed several projects which I thought would be best to do first. I definitely put the return of GA of History of Louisville near the top. I am also trying to keep on there the top 5 Louisville articles that need to be GA, and Top 5 that need to be created. Let me know what you think of the list. BTW, we need to add "Portal" as an assessment selection.--Bedford 07:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article for cleanup

Just ran across a new article for the Louisville Academy of Music that needs some attention. Just thought I'd point it out to this group to see if you all can help. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 16:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I added everything encyclopedic from the 11 articles the CJ has written that mention the Academy since 1999. There might be some older stories. It could still use more links and a better category (and a picture). --W.marsh 17:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FA nom of Richard Mentor Johnson

I know this isn't really a Louisville-related article, but several of you folks have been helpful with my FA noms in the past. It actually took more than a week this time for someone to tell me that the article I revamped on Richard Mentor Johnson needs a thorough copy-edit before it can pass FA. I should just start all of my FA noms by opposing myself and saying the article needs to be copy-edited. As is usually the case, I fear I'm too close to the prose (since I wrote almost all of it) to clean it up effectively. Would someone (or multiple someones) care to have a look? While you're there, please leave any additional comments you may have on the article's nomination page. Thanks. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 12:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project change patrol restored to full glory this weekend

Starting sometime this weekend, JoshurBot will start regularly filling in the "Watchall" page that is utilized for project change patrol. The previous bot that performed this duty discontinued its service last August, and ever since, our ability to do comprehensive change patrol was degrading. I hope everyone finds this development helpful in their Wikipedia work. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 06:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linking graphic for WikiProject Louisville

I would like to link to WikiProject Louisville from my Louisville discussion board, but we don't currently have an official linking graphic to use for that purpose. If anyone would like to make one, my current requirements are that the image be a .gif and .jpg and be no bigger than 120 pixels (w) x 100 pixels (h). If nobody else wants to do it, I may do it myself. At any rate, it would be nice if had one. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)