Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Life on Mars

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LOM This article is part of WikiProject Life On Mars, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the articles about Life On Mars on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Life on Mars page.

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[edit] Aims

I think that we should add to the aims to try and get the article on Life on Mars to FA and speaking of the ranking we should start ranking the articles except I'm not sure how to rank them - J.Naven 13:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you, this should be of top priority. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 15:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Number of articles

How many articles are we talking about? This is something of a short-lived series to have a whole WikiProject devoted to it. Wryspy (talk) 20:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe looking at the project scope should answer that question. Moreover, there is to be a spin-off series. --Kife 15:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shared LOM/ATA linkbox?

Hi guys, thanks for asking me to join the project! I've just spent a bit of time working on the Alex Drake article, and I was about to add the lifeonmars linkbox to the bottom of the page before deciding it possibly doesn't quite fit as she doesn't appear in that particular series. Would it be worth talking about whether we want a separate Ashes-to-Ashes linkbox, or maybe about having a shared one for both series, since quite a few characters cross over? Kaid100 (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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No problem and welcome! I hope you enjoy being part of the project.

Thank you for brining this up, its a very valid point. I think it wouldnt be a bad idea to merge both ATA and LOM in one template but we should have the basis of it in the pipeline but in a way we should wait until it is actually aired because no one can predict what a character will be like until we have seen for our own eyes so we should not create an article until then but yes we should merge them. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 16:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops, well I'd already created the Alex Drake article on the basis of citable information. It's only two-or-three weeks until episode 1 of Ashes to Ashes will be broadcast so I can't imagine anyone would find it worth going to the bother of speedy-deleting it. At least we've got something to build on once the series starts. Kaid100 (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah thats fine mate I've already seen it and in my opinion your article is up to par. I have no interest at all with speedy deletion even if your article wasnt good (it is but i'll run the point past you) I would tell you to sort it I dont believe in all these deletion tags and crap it just creates bad feelings if one day you wake up look at a hard worked on article you've created and see some crappy tag. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 17:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Nice with the Alex Drake article lokk mint - J.Naven 20:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks guys, don't worry I wasn't thinking anyone here was going to delete the article, only that someone looking out for newly-created articles might kick up a fuss about an article about an as-yet unbroadcast character. Nice work changing the linkbox to mention both series btw. Kaid100 (talk) 23:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ashes to Ashes Sneak Peek

Has anyone seen the sneek peek, my reputation proceeds me - J.Naven 20:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been enjoying both new trailers: [1][2]. Did anyone else notice that in the second one Keeley Hawes voiceover says "And I am most definitely here"- could this be a hint that we won't be getting a coma subplot like the one Sam had? Kaid100 (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully Ashes to Ashes will answer all the questions we want answering - J.Naven 15:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

The articles assessment is going pretty well all we have to do now is improve them, which might take a while - J.Naven 22:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General comments

Is there going to be a regular newsletter delivery on talk pages? If so, please make an opt-out list and add my name to the head. I prefer to use my watchlist and access newsletters at a central point (much more efficient and stops my talk page getting cluttered).

I also suggest that the "Vandal identification" section should go. By placing a list of vandals on page we're simply providing a reward to talentless wannabes--a chance of some recognition by an "official" part of Wikipedia, which they couldn't get by actually contributing to the encyclopedia. This is the same reason I oppose use of vandalism-meters and the like. Vandalism has never been a serious problem on Wikipedia. Normal editing keeps it under control. --Tony Sidaway 14:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern, but I dont agree. I will contact the news letter publisher and cancel your newsletter. Plus if you want to access old/current newsletters just go to the newsletter page which can be found on the main project page. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 15:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Images keep getting added to articles and then tagged for deletion [3] ], and some images added are ridiculously high resoluton (Image:AtAtitle.png is a 259kb image when 10 or 20 would do); that's a sign that they're being added without much thought or coordination. I've added some resources to the wikiproject page to help those interested in providing pictures that will stick around for more than the week or so it takes for the copyright bots to tag and delete them, and that will not slow down article downloads unduly. --Tony 06:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Articles

I have recently created articles for the episodes, and was curious as to whether everyone is alright with them and think them up to standard. They have not been tagged for deletion, so i am assuming they are fine, but i thought that a series of that popularity deserves articles, and i recently saw that Ashes to Ashes episodes have articles so i thought it only fair. Just curiousity, but it would be greatly appreciated if you were to share your opinion. Thanks. Badwolftv (talk) 03:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LoM/A2A Images for Episodes/Characters/Actor Articles

Hello

Recently I have seen many images associated with the above being deleted for some Copyright reason. We need solid pictures that hold no copright claim, does any one have any of these images of own work or another reliable source instead of just screen shots? Thanks. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 15:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

  • All images of the actors in character are copyrighted to the BBC, we can't avoid that. We need use images that can have solid fair use claims made for them and this means either screenshots or promotional images that have been officially released to the media. The deleted images were only used on the BBC website so they don't qualify. I would suggest screenshots for the time being and see if anyone can scrounge up an offical BBC promotional press pack from somewhere. Exxolon (talk) 01:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
    • All characters now have at least one picture. Some are not the best quality, and some show the characters in their Ashes to Ashes incarnations so we can a convincing case for including their appearance from both shows. Proper promotional images would be a vast improvement in any case. Exxolon (talk) 01:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episode names

Both Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes have their episodes named on Wikipedia yet I can find no official mention of them anywhere. See the discussion pages on the episode listing articles. --Phoenix Hacker (talk) 07:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Images

All main Ashes to Ashes characters now have official promotional pics taken from the BBC press pack as their picture. We still need official promo pics for Life on Mars only characters - Sam Tyler, Annie Cartwright and Phyllis Dobbs. Exxolon (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Found and added. All characters with the exception of Dobbs now have 1 or 2 promo pics as appropiate. Dobbs was not considered a major enough character to warrant an offical promo pic it seems and will have to remain a screenshot. Exxolon (talk) 21:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Resignation

As this project appears to be dead, I hereby resign from it. Best wishes. Exxolon (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)