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[edit] Update the main towns.

Here is my suggestion for a task. Getting all the Kent towns up to "B" standard. The ultimate goal would be Featured articles, but one step at a time. There is a category Category:Towns in Kent from which I produced the table below. If we agree, then we can put this on the main page.

  • Delete any Non-Towns from the table, add any that have been missed.
  • Update the table with the current state of the articles.
  • Create our own Kent rating template.
  • Add template to town talk pages (Hopefully attracting people to this project).
  • Assess non-rated articles.
  • Re-assess UK geography articles.
  • Once we have a list of things to do, we start editing. (After further discussion on standards).
Category:Towns in Kent
Town Active Rating Assessor Assessment Date Infobox Next Requirement
Ashford, Kent Yes Start UK Geography 24 Aug 06 Yes Create "People from..." paragraph and move list of people to a new page
Broadstairs No Start UK Geography Yes
Canterbury No Start UK Geography Yes
Chatham, Kent No Start UK Geography Yes
Whitstable

Active = Judging by the history, are there people currently trying to improve the article.
Rating, Assessor, Date = Articles current rating as per Wikipedia Quality Scale, who assessed the page and date, to keep track of progress.
Infobox = Does the article have the town infobox.

Are there any more columns that would be useful? MortimerCat 01:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Table and idea looks good. What will appear in the date column? Do you think we need a column for who is actively working on a page? and whether a assessment/reassessment has been requested? Olive Oil 17:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My intention was to put an assessment date, so we can reassess after six months maybe. A assessment flag would be good or maybe just put REQUEST in the date column? Not sure about the current editor column. If someone stakes a claim that may discourage other editors. How about a "This article needs" column, where we put in requests for photographs, or someone to write about local politics?

I have put a table onto the main page, and I will be filling in the details shortly. I am only putting in the columns that show how we can get involved. The status will be my own quick assessment based on Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements using the grades of Wikipedia Quality Scale. This will give us an idea of the current state, and maybe we can come up with official grading rules later. MortimerCat 22:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Rochester appears to be missing- but Canterbury (a city) is there !?

Updated, welcome aboard - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 15:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Our own Kent rating standards

Our own ratings would be good for more active people but we shouldn't rate our own writing, a third party viewpoint would be better. I think an overview of the article would be better guidance as to where to work next - i.e Basic (e.g only 1 paragraph) - Formatted (e.g article sections) - Started (ready for the first level of rating), perhaps we could agree standards. Olive Oil 20:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that we do not rate our own articles and have a simplistic guide instead. Earlier, I noticed Wikipedia:WikiProject Devon were adding their project box to lots of articles. I first thought about a twinning arrangement, we review their articles, they review ours. That led me to something I have mentioned before - Wikipedia:WikiProject_England. This would be really useful if it was to be an active meeting place for all the county projects. MortimerCat 01:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The template

I have created a template, borrowed from Devon.

Kent Portal
This article is within the scope of the Kent WikiProject, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to the county of Kent in South East England.
If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.

Article Grading:
The article has not been rated for quality and/or importance yet. Please rate the article and then leave comments here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.

WikiProject Kent tasks:

To use, just add {{WikiProject Kent }} to the talk page of any Kent based article. Later reviewers, whoever they may be, can fill in suggestions.

I think adding the template is good but we should make suggestions, rather than just the blank template, or perhaps we should suggest looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography#Resources and guidelines Olive Oil 08:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kent Portal selected pictures.

I have made the selected picture on the Portal:Kent change automatically each week. I now need help in creating the list of choices. Please visit Portal talk:Kent/Pictures to help out. MortimerCat 01:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we going to vote for the pictures? or do we just need 53 to use? can we have text with each of the pictures (if so perhaps the nominators should write a sentence)? Olive Oil 08:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

This no longer applies, we have a random picture system now. MortimerCat 19:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I think from looking at reviews of other portals we need to credit the photos, below the picture but above any text i.e
Credit: website text, User:Name ?
<small><center>Credit: [http://www.blah-blah.jpg website text], [[User:Name ?]]</center></small>

- Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 02:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The few random portals I just looked at do not credit photos. Beside, are not all the photos we would use are public domain and not need crediting? MortimerCat 02:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Very dependant upon the licence of the photos. some stuff doesn't require it, others do, while other photos (eg fair use) may not be usable (ie on a portal it isn't fair use as it was back in the article). Pickle 03:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I'll will go through the pictures and check the licences. Can you show me a Portal where they have that credit. MortimerCat 08:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The same applies to the biography and featured article. Roger Dean, the biography which was originally static on this page, was using a debatable copyrighted image of his work. MortimerCat 08:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Portal:Architecture, Portal:Texas, Portal:Science are just a few of the Featured portals that credit the photos, (there are as many that don't). I didn't think about the licensing issue, I was just following suggestions for other sites after they'd had peer reviews, thinking it was polite to credit the creator. - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 08:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:WikiProject Kent

I've created Category:WikiProject Kent to show pages actively involved with the Kent Project, it includes the Project pages plus any pages using the {{User Wikiprojectkent}}, {{WikiProject Kent improve}} and {{WikiProject Kent}} templates. Olive Oil 13:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2 things

  1. a suggestion - put this on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. Show the proposal of the project and follow the procedure.
  1. WP:RM London to Ashford to Dover Line --> South Eastern Main Line. Simply south 19:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I think its a bit late for the project proposal procedure! MortimerCat 20:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project/Article/Area of the month

Please read/edit the seperate Article Improvement subpage.

[edit] Citations

I've created the {{FactKent}} template

 {{FactKent}}  adds a request for a citation (source information). 
Appearing as [citation needed], linking to the Citing sources Manual of Style page
used in the body of an article as a request for other editors to find citations:
1. to label a passage which is incomplete without a cited source of information
2. to label a quotation which lacks a citation

The template updates Category:WikiProject Kent Citation needed - Olive Oil - Talk 08:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kent discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description 
Improving articles related to the county of Kent in South East England
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Olive Oil 20:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Comments

WikiProject Kent

[edit] To Do list

I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent/To Do, which uses the comments added when using {{WP:Kent}}. Included are the Top and High priority articles, please add to these, but more importantly edit the articles or add comments on the Talk pages - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 15:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project banners

Forgive me, for I am a complete outsider, but a couple of things. Why do you have two project banners? And do you not think {{WP:Kent}} is rather large? Seems to dwarf other banners on the same page to me - and there is enough discussion about how project banners are taking up too much space at the moment. Regards, Severo 01:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

IMHO the kent ones do look a little to big, especailly when next to some of the others (eg trains, geogrphy, etc), but not being a techy i don't know how to change it. Pickle 15:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

I am a bit concerned about the templates {{FactKent}}, {{UnreferencedKent}} (and others?) there are probably in excess of 200 cleanup templates, if we multiply these by the counties of England alone, we will have a logistical nightmare (actually we already have one). Would it perhaps be better to request a regular bot assisted listing of articles in both the Kent project and some array of cleanup cats? Rich Farmbrough, 21:10 1 April 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Request for help

I've just added the IPA pronunciation for Ightham, but I'm not sure if it's right. I came here to ask for help, so first can anyone who knows about IPA lend a hand? Second, I think the project page needs to give directions on where to ask for help. Cheers guys! Tbone762 20:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

a) your probably asking in the write place, but b) i haven't a clue, i know (as a local) how it is pronounced but I've no idea how to convert that into letter! Pickle 04:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the IPA, but if you say Ite'am (quickly) you won't be far wrong. Ite as in bite. Maybe this will help to get the IPA correct if needs it. Mjroots (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration technique

I am trying to get some feedback on an idea. The talk page is useful for discussing ideas, but when the article has lots of sections, and is actively being improved by many editors, comments can get lost.

My idea is to have a collaboration subpage from the main talk page. Every section in the main article has a corresponding section on the collaboration talk page. This helps people who want to work on the Transport section, for example, to have have all the Transport comments in one place.

This idea seemed to work well when I was working on Eastbourne, see Talk:Eastbourne and Talk:Eastbourne/collaboration, although I have only just moved it to its own subpage. MortimerCat 10:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

agree - Sounds like a quite a good way of proceeding - saves clogging up the talk page - let's try it! Regards, Lynbarn 11:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I have created the collaboration for Dover. If anyone wants to comment generally on this idea, please do so at Template talk:Collaborate. MortimerCat 16:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dover collaboration

As this article has had a cleanup tag for nearly a year, I think this should be a new collaboration. Maybe an opportunity to develop the Collaboration technique idea?

agree - why not, Dover is as good a place to start as anywhere in Kent! Regards. Lynbarn 11:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paddock Wood

I've done a bit of work on the Paddock Wood article, including a partial rewrite and an image. I'll try and take some more photos soon. I've tweaked the box on the discussion page, but if someone who actually knows what they're doing would like to take a look that would be great! -- JediLofty User | Talk 12:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I've carried on the rewrite, and I think it's just above Start class now! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 20:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Brunt

I've added an article about the John Brunt V.C. public house in Paddock Wood. Does that belong in this project? -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 20:44, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure as its a pub in Kent, if its in Kent, about Kent, etc - its within WikiProject Kent's scope. Having the banner on the talk page gives other editors who may be trying to get hold of someone, etc about the page, a place to contact people, etc. Pickle 01:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Brunt (the person this time, not the pub!)

Hi all. I've just given the John Henry Cound Brunt article a major overhaul. While he wasn't born in Kent, his parents moved to Paddock Wood when he was at school, and it was the last place he lived before joining the army. Does this belong in WikiProject Kent? -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 22:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Hop Farm Country Park

I've been having a bit of a mad few days creating articles! I have a new one, which I've put the template on, but would appreciate someone else reviewing, at The Hop Farm Country Park -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 19:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Impressive start, you even included references! I made a spelling correction, then spelt the edit summary wrong :) It does need someone else, with the knowledge, to add a bit more, just to maintain NPOV. MortimerCat 11:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help: external links and blogs

Would anyone knowledgeable about Wikipedia's guidelines on external links (WP:EL) care to have a look at Talk:Margate and give their opinion. Much obliged. Pgr94 18:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People from Categories

A discussion has been opened at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London#Category:People from Ealing by district about upmerging local area categories for People from... into current local government boundaries only. This could have implications across the whole of England if carried through. Your are invited to join the discussion. The proposer is planning a massive merge by 22nd June if no objections are received. --Regan123 11:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improving the University article

I'm hoping to get the University of Kent up to GA status and help would be much appreciated. In particular if anyone knows anything about the Medway and/or Tonbridge campuses that would be extremely valuable as most of the alumni & current student editors tend to be from the Canterbury campus. Timrollpickering 02:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Medway is my home town so in a few months I'll be back there, what are you after? Pickle 19:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Some general details about where the Medway campus is, the facilities it has, any pre-existing notable buildings that were taken over and the like. I admit this is vague but this is because my knowledge of what there is in Medway is very limited. Timrollpickering 12:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Right ho, off the top of my head and 200 miles away the university thing down there is based in the former RN Dockyard all together, sort of not the historic section (which is a distinct part of the old navy base), north of Brompton but not on St Mary's Island. I'm pretty certain they are in some nice old navy building but I've never been actually into their bit so i can't say which uni has which buildings. I'll do some digging when I'm home next, September time (remind me if your desperate!). Pickle 18:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll try adding some of this the University of Kent#Medway campus, but help next month will be very useful. Timrollpickering 08:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neighbouring projects

Just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet, there's now a Wikiproject for the county next door. Wikipedia:WikiProject Surrey isn't so advanced yet and any helping tips would be much appreciated. Timrollpickering 08:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User box

I've just created Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent/Membership for anyone wanting a Userbox for the project. Timrollpickering 08:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Very nice (proably better) but for some reason i've found this one too {{User Wikiprojectkent}}. Really should fiddle witht he front page to show new members how to add the user box. Pickle 18:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance

I've upgraded the importance of some towns and villages, as I don't think it's useful for 90% of Kent articles to be classed as low. Any town with a population of over 30,000 is now "high", and any village/parish with a population of over 4,000 is now "mid". Epbr123 11:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok i've done a long overdue overhaul of the WP:Kent banner template. I've shamelessly copied the Trains Wiki Project assement page, so we now have our own one here. I've changed the template to include links to it. If we all agree to to Epbr123 proposla on importance we can furnish that info on the example table on this page - Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent/Assessment. Hope that makes sense!. Pickle 03:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Kent created

Bizarrely there was no actual article about the Flag of Kent. I've created a stub, but compared to Flag of Derbyshire, Flag of Devon and Flag of Lincolnshire it's very brief and needs details added, both the history and technical stuff like the correct ratios and colours. Timrollpickering 15:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

  • 7 September - expires 12 September
    • Beulah Christian Fellowship (PROD by User:Montchav; "Beulah Christian Fellowship is a church in Gillingham, Kent.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceyockey (talk • contribs) 03:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for letting us know, IMHO its not crtical, notable etc so panic not. Pickle 09:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • 7 September (continued)
    • St George's Church, Folkestone (PROD by User:Montchav; "The church was opened in 1938 as a daughter church of Holy Trinity.") --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 11:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • St Paul's Church, Sandgate (PROD by User:Montchav; "St Paul's Church in Sandgate, Kent is part of the Trinity Benefice in Folkestone.") --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 11:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Trinity Benefice (PROD by User:Montchav; "The Trinity Benefice in Folkestone consists of the Parish of Holy Trinity, the Parish Church of St George, and the Parish Church of St Paul.") --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 11:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] St Augustine's Abbey

Hi, I belong to those German wikipedians who visit the English edition from time to time for interwiki-related issues or simply to see how things are done here. Among the curiosities of the English edition are the article ratings on the talk pages that attempt to assess the importance of an article in the scope of a particular wiki project and its so far achieved quality. I'm not really a fan of this as these assessments seem to be quite arbitrary at times. One such case is St Augustine's Abbey which is rated to be of low importance for this project. Maybe, Kent has quite something to offer in ancient monasteries and ruines and the latter are in this case not that extraordinary. However, it belongs to the UNESCO World Heritage and even Kent has not heritage sites of such rank in abundance. In addition, it is the very first Benedictine foundation outside of continental Europe. And finally, it had a remarkable library even in comparison to other major sites. So you might want to reconsider this assessment, or even better to improve this article. Cheers, AFBorchert 11:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC), main author of the corresponding article in the German wikipedia

Thanks you for taking the time to chat with us over here.
re importance and assement in general - it has its pros and cons. in the case of kent, we've realised that the Kent article was the most imortant to us and as a starting point needed a lot of work to be done there first. now its a "good article" we can focus efforts elsewhere. Thus one of our members has gone around putting the big towns/cities of Kent as the next target of our attention. elsewhere, i'm a member of the much larger wikiproject trains, but due to our size we've ommitted focusing on some of the basics, which when people like the team who want to publish a basic enclopedia tell us they need a good article on the basics of rail tranport we find we've ignored this key starting point (yet focused on certian obscure specailites), - thus we're refocusing our efforts on the basics.
so in this case, by all means St Augustine's Abbey is important on many a scale, but given the (still) infancy of this project, such a mertious article is not yet higher up our scale (Canterbury Cathedral is only a "mid" and a "start".
by no means should this discourage you or other editors from expanding upon this article (be bold!).
and once agian thanks for taking the time to drop by, unfortunelty my german is soo limited i cannot hope to grasp what is at corresponding article in the German wikipedia
Pickle 20:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the importance score is a relative measure, not an objective one. In this case, it is relative to the Kent project. Another wiki project might include the very same article and rate it differently. That's not to say the current score is right (or wrong). Pgr94 21:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I just followed the assessment scale given here. This reserves an assessment of "low" to cases which are not well known outside of Kent. I think that a UNESCO world heritage site is very well known also outside of Kent or the UK. I'm German and I have never been even close to Kent but I know, of course, of your cathedral, of St. Augustine and his abbey and of many other important archbishops like Lanfranc, Anselm (he, like Lanfranc, has not even been included in your article list) and Thomas Becket. Thanks for your invitation to contribute. I think, however, that my German is far superior to my lacking mastery of English prose. Hence I'll continue to contribute mainly in the German edition. However, I'm always open to questions and discussions of monastic sites in England. Just drop me a note on my talk page. Regards, AFBorchert 22:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
a) hmm i worte that
b) you highlight very well how importance varies from each editor's perspective
c) thanks for letting us know ;)
Pickle 23:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guidelines

Hello WikiProject Kent participants,

Just a line trying to promote some trans-WikiProject guidelines for settlement articles. WP:UKCITIES are guidelines from the "mother" WP:UKGEO project based on those at WP:CITIES (A "global" WikiProject for settlements that is US driven). They have been employed by a number of articles to standardise content, obtain a consistent style and approach and drive them towards good and featured article status with considerable success, and are so far also endorssed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Greater Manchester, Wikipedia:WikiProject Cheshire, Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset‎, Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire and Wikipedia:WikiProject Sheffield, amongst others.

Not too many users (or indeed projects) are aware of the guidelines, and thought it may be helpful if all the county WikiProjects had a link to them to help them get the results they want.

As it stands, unlike other county WikiProjects, this project mainspace does not have a section entitled "Guidelines" - it may be suitable if {{main|WP:UKCITIES}} was affixed to such a section to raise awareness of the guidelines. Hope that helps, Jza84 16:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice idea, although the project page is rather complicated to edit, i don't know if want to risk brekaing it (anyone else understand it!) Pickle 17:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've just about managed it... just... (!). Thanks for the support! Best of luck with the project! Jza84 20:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Loose cannon", please advise

Recently, there have been a number of contributions to various Kent-related articles that are coming from IP numbers (80.0.110.148, 80.2.201.239, 80.0.117.237, 80.1.88.210, etc.). It looks like it may be the same person. The problem is that although the contributions seem well-intentioned, the editor appears to be blissfully unaware of WP's guidelines (POV, linking policy, verifiability etc). So far I have been unable to communicate with them because the IP address keeps changing.

It seems heavy-handed to revert, but at the same time their contributions need extensive fixing. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this? Does anyone think it's not a problem? Pgr94 01:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible new GA candidate

Have recently rewritten Wormshill in line with a GA self-nom. It's a small village so not much in way of sources - plus I'm based in Australia so much harder to get hands on papers/published works. Please could participants take a look at the article and see if they can help with possible extra content or possible avenues for further sources. Would be great to get this one into GA. Cheers Dick G (talk) 06:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Article has achieved GA and is now up for Featured Article. Would be great if Kent editors could drop in on the article and add bits and pieces (if they have any) or offer any tips on the candidate page. Cheers Dick G (talk) 01:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maidstone

Would love to see a concerted effort on this one from experienced WP:GEOGRAPHY or WP:CITIES editors. As the county town of Kent it's in a pretty poor state as far as an article goes - particularly having regard to the wealth of information out there about the town. It should be one of the top two or three priorities of this project behind the main Kent article. Considering the level of detail that can be achieved on small individual parts of Maidstone e.g. Penenden Heath and Mote Park the article on the town itself should easily be able to achieve GA or above if a number of editors join in.Dick G (talk) 04:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy to help - there is a great deal of Maidstone related stuff (I've been adding a bit to the prison) and I've got some images too. Nogbad (talk) 12:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of "List of Churches in Kent"

For your information (I am not the proposer): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of churches in Kent. It was listed on 1st December.  DDStretch  (talk) 09:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fastrack

Has anyone a good picture of a Fastrack bus that they would be willing to contribute to that article? David Arthur (talk) 23:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Y DoneClemRutter (talk) 11:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lord Lieutenant of Kent

Just saw that the incumbent Lord Lieutenant, Allan Willett, was not represented on wiki. He now has a bright shiny new article. There are a few for Lord Lieutenants who haven't yet got articles - I appreciate these days its a largely ceremonial role but historically I suspect these gents were important in our county's history. Perhaps folk might like to put together stubs to fill in the gaps. Follow the red links in Lord Lieutenant of Kent to get started. Dick G (talk) 05:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Villages" in Kent

There are a large number of settlements, most of which are included in the Kent geography stubs category, which are at present described as "villages in Kent". As a geographer I am concerned that this blanket description gives an entirely wrong impression of the relative importance/size/shape (some are just scattered houses given a name on the map) of these settlements. I am working my way through them, and trying to make the description fit the actuality. If in doing so, I upset anyone who actually lives there, then I apologise - but in that case they should look at the introduction to the article Village, which shows the differentiation between that and a hamlet. The Human settlement article is also aposite to this.

As I do this, I am also trying to give a better location than that often given - "in Kent" or even "East Kent" - and the talk page on that article has pertinent things to say about that! Peter Shearan (talk) 13:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of civil parishes in Kent

I am copying here a note I put on this article, since I had no apparent taker for its implications:

I think it is vitally important that a civil parish is understood. It is NOT the same as a village, and that is what most of the references here originally led to. The two differ, in that a village often has the same name as the civil parish, but the latter covers a greater area, and includes other settlements (villages, hamlets) within it.

I then went on to say that the following might constitute the pattern of the article:

The parish:XXX is a village and civil parish in the XXX District of Kent, England. The parish is located [here should appear a general description of the location, eg north west of XXXX]. Within the parish are the [settlements] of YYY and ZZZ. The population of the parish is ..... include communications (railways, roads) passing through the parish
The village: details of its size, shape, location (include distances from nearby towns etc); its church it is dedicated to St ...; and then other details specifically about the village.
Other settlements within the parish: these should referenced to a separate article, so that they will then be included on the list of villages in Kent can have them included
There is often a website for the civil parish not often one for the village specifically; likewise population figures are for the civil parish, not just the village

I should be grateful for comments Peter Shearan (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Staplehurst

I have added an RM to move Staplehurst, Kent to Staplehurst (which is currently a dab page). Comments are welcome. Parable1991 (talk) 15:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sarre ~ pronunciation

Hi Kent Project members,

I'm hoping to record spoken versions of Kent's various Featured Article status towns soon. I notice that the village of Sarre appears in the text of Birchington-on-Sea, and for the sake of prudence (and knowing that many Kent villages are pronounced in a less than intuitive way), I would be grateful if somebody could either confirm that it is pronounced /sɑr/ (to rhyme with "car") or advise me how it is pronounced, if different. Thanks a lot! Hassocks5489 (talk) 12:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Sarre is pronounce as though an "s" was in front of the word are, or alternatively drop the "e" off the end to get Sarr. Watch out when you get to Trottiscliffe! Mjroots (talk) 15:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Great, thanks for that. That's how I expected. (Unlike "Trosley", as you mention!...) Hassocks5489 (talk) 21:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kent County Council

I have been looking at KCC page and i see that in the infobox the MP's for Kent are listed. I feel this should be replaced with the members of KCC and the positions. As the infobox is currently miss leading as it implies that the MP's make up the KCC. How do we feel about changing this? Cheveney (talk) 06:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment / Reassessment

As we are up to date with unassessed articles, maybe it's time to start reassessing articles. It's been pointed out to me that just because we have no backlog doesn't mean assessments are up to date. I propose we start reassessing stubs first, starting with "A" and working through to "Y". Once this is done, there's the Start class articles to go through. Mjroots (talk) 09:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been through the "A"s, leaving those I have had significant input into. Addington needed a substantial rewrite, which I have done. The "B"s are now listed ready for reassessment. Mjroots (talk) 12:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Bs done (as above), Cs listed. Found one article that shouldn't have been in WP:Kent and one that is almost B class listed as a stub! 09:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Cs done, Ds listed. Would appreciate a bit of help though! Mjroots (talk) 15:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like there is no interest from anyone else in reassessing articles. If anyone is interested, carry on from D Mjroots (talk) 09:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

To be honest I'd like to be able to help but it's a pretty big undertaking in terms of time and I can't really see me spending a couple of hours trawling through the pages on the off chance that an article has improved/degraded to a material extent. However, that's not to say I (and I'm sure many others) don't appreciate what you're doing. Thanks for doing this and I'll see if I can stop by when the Z's come up ;) Dick G (talk) 11:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template Todo List

These appear to be broken- I have tried to edit the Dartford and The Canterbury list to add a //done// and I just get an error message. Firefox can't find the server at en.wikipedia.org{{localurl. ClemRutter (talk) 11:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I thibk there was a major sever problem with Wikipedia yesterday for about ½ hr about thar time. Mjroots (talk) 06:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minster-in-Sheppey

I did put a note on this article's talk page a while back, but as no-one has come across it I thought I'd mention it here. There seems to be some discrepancy about the name of this village on Sheppey: it is recorded 3 different ways in one stub article! The article is entitled Minster-in-Sheppey, the lead paragraph refers only to Minster, where the Infobox is marked as Minster-on-Sea. Could somebody local clarify, perhaps including a section on the names if there is a varied use on the ground? Tafkam (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Answered on the talk page of the article. Mjroots (talk) 09:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Museums in Kent

Could I ask for some help accessing local knowledge, from members of this wikiproject, on the behalf of the new WikiProject Museums? We are currently trying to identify articles within the Museum projects scope (& develop guidelines to help improve them etc). There is a List of museums in Kent. Could you take a look at the list for your local area and see if any are missing or create articles for any red links. Could you also add the new project banner "{{WikiProject Museums}}" to the Talk pages of the articles, so that we can identify those in need of work etc. Any help appreciated &, if anyone is interested you are welcome to join the project or discuss Museum related articles on the Project Talk Page.— Rod talk 14:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plucks Gutter

I've just removed some vandalism from Plucks Gutter - thought I'd mention it as it seems to be a regular target Nogbad (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment backlog

The backlog of unassessed article is starting to build up again. I've assessed all Kent articles that I have not created or had a significant input into <g>. Mjroots (talk) 11:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Research source

I've found this website which seems to be a good source of material for Kent, Sussex and Surrey articles. Mjroots (talk) 18:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parishes

Hi, just noticed that there is two categories for civil parishes in Kent, one of which has only one entry, Category:Civil Parishes in Kent and Category:Parishes of Kent. I think that you should consider combining these as they appear to perform the same function. Keith D (talk) 23:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)