Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Jainism

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[edit] Answers

Mr. Bafna (I'll assume Sanjay is you first name), 1) I'll take care of that. It's easy, all you have to do is edit the page, but I'll take care of it.
2) All you have to do is add your name. There's no real process to it. I'll do that for you too.
3) Sorry, but can you make sure that all your edits follow the English grammar rules? I've seen some of the articles you've edited and the grammar isn't pretty. --queso man 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remove This

  • (1.)Some articals were created by me as follows
  1. Bispantha (correction by User:Qmwne235 - Bisapantha)
  2. Jain Rituals and Festivals
  3. Dilwada Temples

But stil it is published in "Articles that need to be created". please Edit this list,because above articles are created.

  • (2)I want to Join WikiProject Jainism.How do i?

SANJAYBAFNA 12:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Experts

For experts in this religion, please edit the Jainism section in the fasting article. Thank you. Bibliomaniac15 03:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm a practicing Jain myself, and I attend Jain classes. I don't know if that would make me an expert, but I'll try. --queso man 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming Convention for various people

Hi,

I have following suggestion for Naming Convention for people related to Jainism:

  • Name all the people by just first name, or full name where applicable.
  • Use words such as Tirthankar, Kevali postfixed to wikipedia article name, to avoid ambiguation where necessary.
  • Use names from Logass Sutra, as primary identifier. Which means Use Rishabh, in place of Adinath, and Vardhamana in place of Mahavir.
  • In the article, use Lord for tirthankar. E.g. Lord Vardhamana. Use Kevali for all Siddha/Kevali. E.g. Kevali Bahubali. Archarya, Upadhyaya, Sadhu etc...
  • For others who may not have been monk, and neither the top 5, identify if use of words such as Pandit, Guru be suitable.
  • For articles on Ganadhar, use Ganadhar GanadharName.

Would look for peer comments. Chirag 00:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Good Idea. I will put this on the front page =) - Zhang Guo Lao 14:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] How do I join this Wikiproject

And what is its userbox template? I am a Jain and I am very interested in the Jain Dharma. I have made quite a few contributions to Jainism-related articles.

Thanks! --queso man 18:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awesome Template

Very nice template done on the main article Chirag =) I was thinking of doing one but i'm glad I didn't start it haha. You outdid what I would've done. Very nice work. --Zhang Guo Lao 16:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for organizing WikiProject Jainism

Charag, I am happy to see this project. I hope there will bemore contributors.--Malaiya 22:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] religioustolerance dot org

I came across over 700 links to this organization, Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance. The site has a ton of ads but on the other hand, it has content (and a Wikipedia article).

Normally, such an ad-intensive site with so many links gets attention at WikiProject Spam for further investigation. Even if it's not spam, many links may often get deleted as not meeting the external links guideline. I've left a note at WikiProject Spam asking others to look at some of these and see what they think.

Even some non-profit organizations will add dozens of links to Wikipedia since links in Wikipedia are heavily weighted in Google's page ranking systems. (If interested, see the article on Spamdexing for more on this).

You can see all the links by going to this this "Search web links" page. I encourage you to look at Wikipedia's external links guideline then look at the links in the articles you normally watch. Also, if you don't mind, please also weigh in at WikiProject Spam with your opinions. If you see links to pages that you don't think add additional value beyond the content already in an article, feel free to delete them, but please don't go mindlessly deleting dozens of links. (Per WP:EL, links that don't add additional value should be deleted but that doesn't necessarily mean they're "spam").

Thanks for your help and for providing some second opinions. --A. B. 17:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Religious leaders

The current organization there is abit muddled, and needs some discussing how to deal with. A general proposal for cleaning it up is posted at Category talk:Religious leaders#Organization proposal, and more input would be great. It doesn't address the issue of Religious leaders/religious workers/religious figures, but that is another issue that exists. Badbilltucker 21:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Animal shelter article

I have recently found text which states that the Jain community operates several thousand animal shelters in Asia, and have added a small section to the article to indicate as much. Regretably, the article still reflects a pronounced pro-Western bias, and a good deal more information about the Jain shelters of Asia is to my eyes called for. Specific information on number of animals worked with and such is still specifically and glaringly missing. Anyone who is in a position to contribute this information to the article and thus have it reflect a more balanced world view is more than welcome to do so. Thank you. Badbilltucker 17:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion

The group indicated above was recently revitalized for, among other things, the purpose of working on those articles whose content is such that the article does not fall within the scope of any particular denomination. To most effectively do this, however, we would benefit greatly if there were at least one member from this Project working on those articles. On that basis, I would encourage and welcome any member of this Project willing to work on those articles to join the Religion WikiProject. Thank you. Badbilltucker 22:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Use of swastika in Jainism articles.

For some reason, he posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hinduism#Same problem with the swastika on Jainism articles rather than here. You may wish to read the discussion. --tjstrf talk 08:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Tjstrf: Here I was about to post a similar post to you and what do I see, this! That was offensive to call it "whining" -- it's a discussion and debate, and many users have commented. You obviously miss the entire point of the discussion. IZAK 09:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I would think that the better phrasing would be "an ill-informed, emotionally-charged knee-jerk reaction from someone who is personally clearly displaying the lack of sensitivity and awareness that he is himself complaining about," but, hey, what do I know? Badbilltucker 14:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I think Jains should have the right to continue using their holy symbols. However, the problem is that many people know the swastika only as a nazi symbol. The average readers of wikipedia who have never heard of Jainism might too easily get the wrong idea when they see a template showing a swastika. They don't know that the symbol has been used peacefully for thousands of years before it was abused by the nazis. Therefore, I think it might be a good idea to replace the symbol on templates if another appropriate symbol is available. According to http://www.jcnc.org/jainism/intro_jainism.htm#_Toc22698625 "The comprehensive Jain symbol consists of a crescent of the moon, three dots, the Swastika or Om, the palm of a hand with the wheel (Chakra) inset, and an outline figure encompassing all symbols. Each individual symbol is also separately used in Jainism." I don't know whether or not this source is reliable, but if it is, maybe the swastika could be replaced by Om. Alternatively, maybe Image:Jainism_logo.png could be used on templates. --Danogo 12:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
The comments from that page indicate that the Jainism logo image and the swastika image are the official "logos" of Jainism. It actually doesn't mention the "aum" at all as being even tied to any of the more official symbols. Badbilltucker 16:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
You're right, I misinterpreted it. So please just ignore what I previously wrote. --Danogo 18:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating a guideline that applies to all religous articles

Please discuss this in a discussion here--Sefringle 03:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New project proposal

There is a new WikiProject task force proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Inter-religious content that is being proposed to deal specifically with articles whose content relates to several religious traditions. Any editors interested in joining such a group would be more than welcome to indicate their interest there. John Carter 15:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improving article

Eastern religion is currently being improved. Please help bring this central topic article up to standard. Vassyana 03:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar: Propose/vote

I suggest that we hold a competition for a barnstar to represent this WikiProject so that we can honor good contributors. We can vote, or, because there aren't many people here, we can somehow decide on a decent barnstar to give to tireless contributors.

I think it is an excellent idea. Even I was wondering why there was no barnstar for Jainism yet. But I did not give it a much thought. We need more dedicated and good contributors for this project. I think it is a good proposal to award barnstars to such people. --Anish Shah 05:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Qmwne235's proposal

A sample, just to get juices flowing. This could really use touching up from somebody with the right software.
A sample, just to get juices flowing. This could really use touching up from somebody with the right software.

Note: Unless people decide that it's actually worth something, my proposal isn't intended to be used, nor is it very good.

This is an example of a barnstar. I believe that there isn't a barnstar for Jainism yet. Here are some more barnstars if you need more ideas. Another idea I was considering was an Ahimsa symbol with a barnstar inside the circle instead of the traditional pattern.--queso man 22:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anishshah19's proposal

In response to queso man's proposal I have developed a prototype Barnstar for further feedback.

A Prototype for further discussions
A Prototype for further discussions

Site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Barn_Star_Jainism.jpg --Anish Shah 15:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I like it! But it would be better if there was some way to incorporate the traditional barnstar design

Traditional barnstar
Traditional barnstar

into it (maybe take out the star already there and add in the barnstar, but without a hole?). It's still way better than mine (the one above), though. --User:Qmwne235 19:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh and also, traditionally, barnstars have always been of a certain size (the size of the traditional barnstar at right). Try making your proposal that size, but it doesn't matter too much anyway. It's not the most important thing anyway, and it would render the writing illegible. --User:Qmwne235 19:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I have modified it further to provide it traditional look of Barnstar. I think I have partly succeeded. I have doen it in word. Further sophisticated softwares like inkscape can make it better. --Anish Shah 15:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

A Prototype for further discussions
A Prototype for further discussions

Even though that wasn't qute what I meant, it's looking a lot better. I would definitely vote for this one unless any other (better) proposals come within a week. It doesn't seem like anybody else will vote soon, so as of right now, that's two for you. I'll award the winner a Banrstar's Star (a personal user award). --Qmwne235 19:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks queso man. Check out this newer modified version of the previous barn star.

New version for vote along with older one if found fit
New version for vote along with older one if found fit

It seems very few people are intersted in Project Jainism

Nobody else seems to really care about the Jainism barnstar, so I would say that after a week you can put it up on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards page unless a more than two people vote otherwise in that duration of time. Plus, we can change our barnstar at any time. One suggestion I would make is to make 111 x 107 pixels (or slightly more or less for either of these) the size of the barnstar by a combination of shrinking and cropping so that it fits onto the page. --Qmwne235 20:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


New Version 2 : A new Prototype for further discussions
New Version 2 : A new Prototype for further discussions
New Version 1 : A new Prototype for further discussions
New Version 1 : A new Prototype for further discussions

I have uploaded a new prototype for Jainism Barnstar. I know quesoman would rather have a barnstar that adhers to the traditional looks. Just check it out. Maybe we can also add text to it.--Anish Shah 14:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I like the new design. Now let's wait for some feedback, even though none will probably come. I like the new design better, but which of your designs do you prefer? --Qmwne235 14:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Swastika FAR listing

Swastika has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Kicking222 16:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dharmic religion

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dharmic religion and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_September_2#Category:Dharmic_religions . You may be interested to vote or leave your comments there. Andries 17:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal between Indian religion, Eastern religion, and Eastern philosophy

I have proposed a merge of these three articles. Please see Talk:Eastern philosophy#Merger proposal. Zenwhat (talk) 01:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Women as theological figures and Religion and politics

The above pages have being developing intermittently for some time: more detail is required covering the Jain aspect (and any other areas people are familiar with) - either on those pages or separate and linked. Jackiespeel (talk) 23:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expand {{Infobox church/sandbox}} to cover all places of worship?

There is a proposal to convert the draft infobox template {{Infobox church/sandbox}} into a template that can be used for all places of worship. We would like your views on whether you think this is a good idea, and if you are able to help identify parameters that would be relevant to the religion that your WikiProject deals with. Do join the discussion taking place at "Template talk:Infobox church". — Cheers, JackLee talk 03:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kalasha

I created the Kalasha article, but it mostly deals with the Hindu prospective. Can someone expand on the Jain prospective of Kalasha, as one of the Ashtamangala.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 06:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)