Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam/Shi'a Islam task force

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[edit] Rules

  • Be polite :)

[edit] Articles

[edit] Shi'a views of x articles

Main article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam:The Shia Guild/Shi'a view

[edit] Historical articles

Main article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam:The Shia Guild/Historical articles

[edit] Biographical articles

Main article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shi'a Islam/Biographical articles

[edit] Theology articles

Main article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam:The Shia Guild/Theology articles

[edit] Afd

Main article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam:The Shia Guild/Afd

[edit] Afd For Article - List of Shia Muslims


[edit] Templates

[edit] Template:Islam

  • Is our view fairly represented in Template:Islam? as of 04:20, July 31, 2005 (UTC), in the "The fundamental principles"[1], Imamat is not even mentioned, nor any other shia fundamental belif... --Striver 04:22, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Shia

  • Isnt it any Template:Shia or similar? --Striver 22:53, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Root and branches of Shia Islam

  • Dosnt it sound like a good idea to create one? --Striver 22:53, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Never mind, just created Template:Muslim Beliefs in a rage, and just realized that i hade proposet it here :) --Striver 01:43, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
And Zora removed it from everywhere, since its a "unaccaptable" "abomination". Surprise.--Striver 02:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unrelated

[edit] ROLF!

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iranian Air Force C-130 crash in Tehran Striver 02:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Portal

Does anyone know how to edit a portal. I tried editing the section on 'Selected Muslims' (tried changing Mulla Sadra article to Imam Taqi's as it is his death aniversary). But it wont change, does any1 know hot to use/edit it? --Khalid! 11:36, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Important development

I think we should let everybody know about this:

Ayatullah al-Udhma Yusof al-Sanei has just declared suicide bombing as Haram: [2] --Zereshk 22:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for Improvement

Do we have something like Wikipedia:Iranian Wikipedians' notice board in Shi'a wikiproject. Also what's your idia about Wikipedia:WikiProject Shi'a Islam#Reliable sources ?--Sa.vakilian 10:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Shi'a Islam is basicly the same as the Iranian notice board. Or does it lack someting? I appreciate your addition to the main page and added some myself. --Striver 11:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I mean how we find which article need to supervision or attention?--Sa.vakilian 11:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

One example is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shi'a Islam/Biographical articles. Go to the bottom and fill out the "quality" section with one of the appropriate templates. I just added "b-class" to the Ali article, so you can see how i did it. Peace. --Striver 11:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I had seen it before. It is good But I think if we had a list in one page, we could monitor the situation easier. specialy most of Iranian use dial up and it takes a lot of time from them.--Sa.vakilian 11:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Also look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglicanism#tasks--Sa.vakilian 11:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Ah. I don't have that problem... You can solve it by going to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shi'a Islam and opening each link in a new window by right klicking it, then the other pages will load while you are reading one of them. If you install Firefox and use it instead of explorer, then you can open new windows by klicking the middle mouse button and the new windows will open in tabs instead of new windows. --Striver 11:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
My dear friend! You misunderstood. I mean it's very easier for new wikipedians who aren't familiar with WP to put a list in the main page too.--Sa.vakilian 11:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Hm, i see... Then maybe we should add a welcome message to guide them through the operation of the project? --Striver 11:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes of course. You'd better write a "welcome" and I can help you with the issues.--Sa.vakilian 11:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Then we can monitor the situation there.--Sa.vakilian 11:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Done! Thanks for helping out in making the project better! Peace. --Striver 11:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Whould you please add some note about reliability of the sources which has been added to WP:Shi'a like me?--Sa.vakilian 12:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, im working on that right now.--Striver 12:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] substitution of zulfiqar symbol by "Five persons" (PANJ TAN) symbol

I propose changing the symbol of Shi'a project.

Panj Tan: This symbole represents Rasoolallah, Amiralmomenin, Hazrate Zahara , Imame Mojtaba and Sayyedoshohada. This symbol is related to Hadith of the Event of the Cloak. This symbol like a hand with open fingers.

I think the zulfiqar isn't a good symble in comparison with (Panj tan):

1-The "Panj tan" symbol represents our faiths better than zulfiqar.
2-The people of west have bad idea about the "sword of Islam".
3-It reinforces the propaganda against Muslims and Shi'a.

--Sa.vakilian 16:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

You are right, i agree. Ill keep an eye for a better pic. --Striver 17:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Is there consensus about this change. I think we let others tell us theirs idea. --Sa.vakilian 03:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Some of my friend are graphist. They can make a good symbol for us.--Sa.vakilian 03:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Brothers, I suggest you to visit www.mahdi.ms to learn more on this Flag, Zulifqar is not the weapon of mass destruction and it is the weapon which ensures the survival of the mass.

My point is very clear, Why do we care for the west when they dont care, And we dont hv to prove anything to West but Allah and Allah knows who is right and wrong, And it is not the West to decided who enters Paradise and Hell. That is the Flag of Islam, And Islam was not spread by Sword or oppression, rather the ones who 're poor or weak had chosen Islam as a shield which safegurds them as Islam fights and belives in fighting against oppression and injustices. www.mahdi.ms --www.mahdi.ms 22:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islam template

Salam. Please contribute to an RFC on the Islam template. Template talk:Islam#RFC--Sa.vakilian 03:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

You edited:

(To quote you: "btw, there is not Shi'a and Sunni Guilds, they were renamed some while ago. --Striver 22:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC) " You are the only one who uses this guild; it is divisive.)

Yeah, there is no guild. Try to read the name: "Wikipedia WikiProject Shi'a Islam". And as you can see, it was not me reverting your merge here. --Striver 19:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shia..

Since the article on Shi'a Islam was moved to Shia Islam, shouldn't a bot be run to replace all the Shi'a words with Shia, including the name of this project and all related templates? ← ANAS Talk? 19:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, anybody? - Anas Talk? 17:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Complete template changes

Alright, I hope we can discuss my most recent changes. I totally changed the Shia template around, and made it match stylistically the normal Islam template, but of course kept Zulfiqar. Also, I took out the Twelver specific information. I also redid the Twelvers template, and took out all information that applied to all Shias, as well as gave lots of specific Twelver information. Also, I added Alevi and Alawi as Twelver denominations, and I'm quite willing to fight for that. The Twelver template has a rather pixelated piece of calligraphy with all the Imams names, though only al-Mahdi (AS) is visible.

I would like to mention I believe the Twelver template might be leaning a bit too much towards Usoolism. We'll see what you guys think.

I did an Ismaili template from scratch, and made it size-wise and font-wise close enough to the Twelvers template, but unique enough as well. This is going to take lots of work to get all the information needed for Ismailism as well as weed out the overdone Twelver information being parasites on the generic Shia articles, but hopefully we'll be able to do this. --Enzuru 09:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC) (signed and dated several months after the event... sorry for that)