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Perhaps we should have articles on more companies. Their flags (of the seven war-time companies) are paraded on the third sunday every november. I am of the opinion that we need or will need that catehory. Was any reason given? ClemMcGann (talk) 23:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Possibly it was seen as a duplicate of Category:Shipping companies of the Republic of Ireland Is this part of the row over Republic of Ireland for renaming to Ireland (state) on this talk page ? ClemMcGann (talk) 00:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Cat was restored by BrownHairedGirl (talk) -- ClemMcGann (talk) 02:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Yayy!!! - Alison✍ 12:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

My thanks ClemMcGann 14:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penlee lifeboat disaster

Twenty-five years ago today, just before Christmas, 16 lives were lost in the Penlee lifeboat disaster. The RNLB Solomon Browne went down while rescuing the Arklow-bound, Dublin-registered Union Star on its maiden voyage. The captain, captain Henry "Mick" Moreton had his wife and two teenage daughters on board. Does this disaster fall within our project? ClemMcGann 20:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Your call, Clem. I'd say "yes". - Alison✍ 20:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • BTW - we need to fill in the details around the project here. I've not done it yet but might hit it over the holliers :) - Alison✍ 20:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Clem, can I suggest "No". My reasoning being that whilst Union Star would come within the scope of the project, Penlee lifeboat disaster would not. The ship was Irish-registered (within!) whilst the disaster is named after the lifeboat which is British. But that is only my opinion. I would suggest creating a ship stub for the Union Star. And that would be within the scope. Frelke 22:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The way forward

Hi guys (and gals) Where are we taking this project? Have any of you any suggestions? One thing I thought about was to take any maritime related stuff off the WP:IWNB to-do list and add them here. Another idea was that we might have our own shortcut (can we do that?), say WP:IMAR.

In the first instance I think we could pad out the to-do list and then maybe categorise the items and prioritise?

Any suggestions/comments? Frelke 20:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say move the maritime stuff over to hear and add a mention of this project on their main project page. Our goals and to-do list needs updating but I've not had the time here (Macworld is tomorrow & I'm mad-busy :) ) Categorize and prioritize, definitely but anyone here should feel free to go ahead and fill out the project page as they see fit - Alison✍ 21:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Ha! We already have WP:IMAR. I missed that. Well done Ali. Frelke 20:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Way ahead of ya :-) - Alison✍ 21:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bord Iascaigh Mhara

I just did this one. Apparently, there was an article from last year but it was deleted for copyvio. Can someone more knowledgeable look over this and maybe correct/expand? - Alison✍ 19:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Excellent stub. And it reminded me to add an infobox to Irish Lights. Maybe we should do a variation of the infobox for Irish Maritime organisations? 21:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project log

I wonder if we should have a project log. Not sure how to do it. Any suggestions? Frelke 07:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Done! :-) Here's the link. Feel free to update this - Alison✍ 17:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Related categories

BTW, I am working on the related cats at the moment. I'm not going to leave it like that. I'm just collecting the info together in one place to try to make sense of it. Frelke 07:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Sounds good! - Alison✍ 17:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scope

I have reworked/reworded the headings in the scope section. I also removed 'empty' headings. I know many people like to keep placeholder headings in. I'm one of those that doesn't but if any of ye would prefer to keep em in, I won't object. I'm just doing as it says in the book - Be Bold. Frelke 20:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good News

The Maritime Museum has been awareded 2.8 million euros, by government, to restore the fabric of the mariners' church. Work will be supervised by the OPW. Contract has been awarded to Sisk. The downside is that it will be closed to the public for the next 12 months. However if any active member of this project needs access, then do email me ClemMcGann 09:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RMS Titanic FAR

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[edit] CFD Port categories

Hi. I have kicked off a serious CFD about port categories. Any comments/input appreciated. Frelke 07:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please explain terms like

Can you please explain terms like USS ,HM, HMS ,RMS, MS in the intro of ship articles as some people don't know what they mean so have Royal Merchant Ship Oceanic or RMS Oceanic as the intro , is their a parent maritime project and will request this here also Gnevin (talk) 01:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

These terms, 'MV' 'LE' 'RMS' etc all have wikipedia articles. it would add a lot of duplication to the articles. having said that, I recall someone concluding that ships such as LÉ Emer (P21) | LÉ Aoife (P22) | LÉ Aisling (P23) | LÉ Eithne (P31) | LÉ Orla (P41) | LÉ Ciara (P42) | LÉ Niamh (P52) | LÉ Róisín (P51) were French!! because of the LE prefix. I did define RMS in RMS Leinster. You could ask the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships for an opinion. Slainte ClemMcGann (talk) 03:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Will ask but i dont see why the stand GAA club policy can't be followed such as Dublin GAA

The Dublin County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) (Irish: Cummann Luthchleas Gael Coiste Contae Ath Cliath) or Dublin GAA Gnevin (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

like RMS Leinster ? ClemMcGann (talk) 17:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
To be honest i don't like the RMS Leinster intro ,i'd prefer the GAA style above or Alison's style below Gnevin (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Folks, I've just done this to the LÉ Aoife article. How does this work as a solution to the problem. It's discreet and doesn't interrupt the flow of the first line. Thoughts? - Alison ❤ 18:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Fine my me; and thanks. however Gnevin asked about "terms like USS ,HM, HMS ,RMS, MS" which are outside our scope. I see the post on Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships. Lets watch and see. ClemMcGann (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that , the little note is all you really need to clarify Gnevin (talk) 22:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
wonderful, first bertie gives Old Mariners' Church €3.2m, now this !!
Welcome aboard, may WP:IMAR have a calm sea, fair wind and a star to steer byClemMcGann (talk) 01:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tweak to Template:Irish_maritime-stub

Since Maritime is a disambiguation page, I removed the link in the {{Irish_maritime-stub}} template. If this is problematic, please adjust as you see fit or let me know. Cheers. HausTalk 01:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] B+I

Innisfallen sunk by a mine in River Mersey, 21 December 1940
Innisfallen sunk by a mine in River Mersey, 21 December 1940
Munster sunk by a mine at the Liverpool Bar, 7 February 1940
Munster sunk by a mine at the Liverpool Bar, 7 February 1940

B+I Line See outline article if anyone interestedDurrus (talk)

Nice - I might be able to get pics of the war lost munster and innisfallen - ClemMcGann (talk) 00:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
You see? ClemMcGann (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Looks pretty goodDurrus (talk)


[edit] Irish merchant seamen database 1918-21

Email just received:

Subject: Irish merchant seamen database 1918-21
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:54:19 +0100

Clement, I wanted to let you know that we launched www.irishmariners.ie yesterday. It lists 11,000 Irish born merchant seamen from the 1918-21 period, which is, I believe, about half the total number. Have a look at it. I thought that the reason why the identity card scheme was introduced (to detect conscription avoiders) would appeal to an Irish audience. I would be grateful if the Maritime Institute website would provide a link to my website. best wishes David

:ClemMcGann (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brendan

Evidence supporting Brendan the Navigator reaching America has been deleted. Perhaps we need a separate article on the voyage? ClemMcGann (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)